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Please update Playstation 4 sales number

New official sales number from Sony have been published: https://venturebeat.com/2018/07/31/playstation-4-sales-pass-over-82-million-nearing-ps3s-lifetime-numbers/

Please update the reference and number. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Protomank (talk • contribs)

Nintendo updated sales on their website

total sales for the switch are now 84.59M https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/hard_soft/index.html

Why doesn't the Gameboy/Gameboy color get its own section?

What i mean by this is there are all other consoles marked for their significance to the market why isnt there a Gameboy section saying how it was the first one to cross the 100 million mark by popularizing the handheld market while also be the handheld system for over 10 years?

This comment made me realise it was pretty wierd the GB wasnt highlighted so I went ahead and did so. User:Gemini.skywalker User talk:Gemini.skywalker 12:25 , 2 March 2022 (UTC)

One thing should be changed in Gameboy section

The Gameboy was not only the first portable to sell over 100 million it was the first console to make the milestone 2600:100D:B058:41CC:31C4:4B7C:1FC7:142 (talk) 17:50, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done - Next time make a Semi-protected edit request. Arnav Bhate (talk) 11:56, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Steam Deck inclusion: consistency with other list

The Steam Deck is listed on List of handheld game consoles, so it's considered a game console from the perspective of that list, therefore why can't it be listed here?

I understand some people have been saying it's a PC therefore it's not a game console, but why can't it be both? There are also other examples on the above-linked list of consoles which are also a PC, such as the GPD Win. And the PlayStation 2 could also be used as a PC. The point is, these devices were developed primarily for the purpose of gaming, and directly compete with other more traditional game consoles, so it seems wrong to exclude them just on the basis of their hardware architecture. Kidburla (talk) 16:24, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't read too much into it being on the "List of handheld game consoles" article - I think it was me who just threw it on there when I was cleaning up that article a couple years ago, before I knew there was a debate on its status, and I think no one's really noticed or contested it since then. Here, its not on there because there hasn't been consensus to add it on there yet.
Discussions on it keep fizzling out, so if you wish to pursue this, maybe its worth setting up a formal WP:RFC or something (though it may be better to do that at Talk:Steam Deck first, and the decision there would ripple out to other articles' its mentioned at.) Sergecross73 msg me 16:37, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Personally I am very much for the inclusion as a console. The primary function of the steam deck is a storefront with easy access to play any games. Just because it makes it very easy to mod, doesn't mean it isn't a console. You can put linux on a switch but is it therefore no longer a console? It's still a hybrid console. A pre-built computer mass produced to be cheap and easy to use from the box, that is what all consoles are, including the steam deck. Karstvgl (talk) 21:17, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, but at the same time, if we're going by standards like that, you could say the same thing about PC's or tablets if you just used them strictly for installing and playing basic games, but no one is going to argue they're consoles. Sergecross73 msg me 23:47, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Steam is made, marketed and sold as a console, which is it de facto; so it should be here. It's sales are so tiny though, it doesn't really make a difference.Halbared (talk) 09:53, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That's simply not true. The official website literally says, right at the top, "All-in-one Portable PC Gaming" Sergecross73 msg me 10:34, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Steam deck console is sold by secondary sources, like Amazon et al, and referenced by media (NYT) as a console.Halbared (talk) 20:38, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm just responding to what you said. You said, without evidence, that it was "made" and "marketed" as a console, but a simple check of the product's own website pretty clearly refutes this claim. Sergecross73 msg me 13:16, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sure. The steam deck is made to compete with the switch (it's not it's sole reason, but one amongst many), and is marketed as a console in it's sales bumpf.Halbared (talk) 13:29, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, I'll cut to the chase, since you dont even seem interested in actually proving your claims - the problem is is that there's many sources calling it a console and many sources calling it a PC. And that's why there hasn't been any consensus to include it. Sergecross73 msg me 13:52, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sure I understand that. I used Amazon and the NY Post as an example as they are the first clicks I found when I searched to see if my memory was correct or faulty. This isn't a hardline, it's ambiguous. I don't mind either way, I have no hard feelings on the subject, I'm just contributing to the discussion. As you say above, it usually just peters out. If somebody starts an RFC, I'll participate and vote. I'm just adding my tuppence worth. :) Halbared (talk) 13:59, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If it comes to an RFC, just know that neither Amazon listings nor the NY Post are considered reliable sources. Sergecross73 msg me 14:07, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

quest 2

The quest 2 is not a console its a VR 147.253.54.110 (talk) 21:52, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Oculus Quest 2 is actually a VR console that plays VR games. So it should be in this article. Waterard (talk) 02:45, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Change title from "List of best-selling game consoles" to "List of best-selling video game consoles"?

What if we change the title? The article mentions what a video game console is, so what if we change the title from "List of best-selling game consoles" to "List of best-selling video game consoles"? All of the article is about video game consoles, not other types of games like board games. What do you people think about this? Waterard (talk) 22:43, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'd understand maybe if it was simply between "video game" and "game", but doesn't the presence of the word "console" clear that up? It's not like "board game consoles" are a thing, right? Sergecross73 msg me 23:44, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You do bring up a good point, but other lists do mention video games in their title, for example List of best-selling PlayStation 4 video games or List of best-selling Nintendo DS video games. Why does this article's title just mention game consoles instead of video game consoles? Waterard (talk) 02:43, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Separate categories for Switch?

Ahem, the claim that the Switch has sold over 125 million units is very misleading. I can understand counting the sales of Switch and Switch OLED as one total. But shouldn't the Switch Lite be excluded from that count? Given that it lacks any means to output to a television, it is a dedicated handheld and not a hybrid. Thus its number of sales should be counted separately. So the Switch totals should be: 104.6 million (89.58 million original Switch units plus 15.02 million Switch OLED units); the 21.02 million Switch Lite units sold count as a separate category. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8004:5160:4CBF:24F8:66CC:3F7D:49E2 (talk) 07:00, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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