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Good articlePort Charlotte High School has been listed as one of the Social sciences and society good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
November 9, 2008Good article nomineeListed

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Some comments

Here are some comments that you might want to address.

None of these comments are really important but they might be interesting things to add or do. I hope you find them helpful. Eóin (talk) 02:06, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    • Thank you very much for your comments. I have considered a great many of these issues, and I do plan to expand the article greatly, actually raising its quality to a GA or even (hopefully) an FA as soon as I get time to. When I first nominated this one for GA, I noticed quite a few other articles with a similar amount of content nominated, but many of them failed. GO-PCHS-NJROTC (Messages) 20:24, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Some Comments

Fix issues such as Broad in coverage of the topic and WP Lead as mentioned both above and below.

It was interesting to note that the mascot was named and it stoppe there. athletics - see mascot. Without more content in the article the sentence in the lead makes no sense at all. The school's top rivals Rivals in what??? see rivaltries The academics section talks about quantity of teachers but not of the classes themselves. It would be good to have an education section or expand the academics section to talk about courses that they teach for instance languages teachers can teach french russian, german, hungarian, cree etc etc... such as at see education. The lead offers new information which is not good. The lead is to whet peoples appetite, summarize the rest of the article not be new info. The lead introduces each section, and does not have new content in the lead itself. "The lead section should briefly summarize the most important points covered in an article in such a way that it can stand on its own as a concise version of the article. ... Significant information should not appear in the lead if it is not covered in the remainder of the article...This should not be taken to exclude information from the lead, but to include it in both the lead and body: in a well-constructed article, the relative emphasis given to information in the lead will be reflected in the rest of the text. Do not tease the reader by hinting at startling facts without describing them."WP Lead With two sections about teachers should not something be told of students, without students there is no school....Arlington_Senior_High_School#Students|students]]?

SriMesh | talk 02:56, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to try to do something about this Saturday (or earlier if I find the time). GO-PCHS-NJROTC (Messages) 02:49, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
These issues haven't (yet) been addressed, but they will be in the future. Eventually, I make this (and the articles of the other schools in the county) meet the criteria for an FA. GO-PCHS-NJROTC (Messages) 21:46, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Plans for improvement

Move the information about Bowe to the "History" section under a subsection titled "Scandals" or something similar, and add information about other scandals relating to faculty. The idea is to keep it neutral, and get away from mentioning every single teacher that hits the news. Instead, the idea is to use a few as examples of some of the (somewhat) common things that have popped up. A similar idea applies to the teachers who have received awards. Useful information should be moved to the academic section (possibly with its own subsection), and instead of mentioning every teacher who has been awarded/recognized, we should have just a few examples of awards. Obviously, anything out of the ordinary (anything that merits national or international attention) should be mentioned. Usually, anything significant enough to mention independently should have its own article. Also, the schools athletic record probably deserves a mention. I'd love to get more images of the campus as well. PCHS-NJROTC (Messages) 19:47, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Athletics Improvement

I was studying the article and was wondering how this article has passed GA status with almost no information about the athletics department. Also, nearly every school of this size offers golf, yet I didn't see it listed on the page. Finally, I could create a state championships table for this article if I knew of all the state championships the school has won. Any comments or suggestions? JHawk88 (talk) 12:32, 11 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps the school's website would have information? The trouble is that it's proved difficult to find reliable third party references to make a well rounded section, and I've been trying to avoid using exclusively primary sources. PCHS-NJROTC (Messages) 22:24, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Some useful sites: PCHS athletic department, PCHS football. PCHS-NJROTC (Messages) 23:40, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from 71.3.161.186, 2 May 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} <Port Charlotte High School opened in 1981, not 1982. They graduated their first class in 1984 with the first class going grades 9-12 graduating in 1985.

Requests to edit semi-protected articles must be accompanied by reference(s) to reliable sources.  Chzz  ►  01:28, 3 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done

I fail to see a reason to have a gallery for this school. Specifically pictures of hallways, doors, and students milling around. That is not encyclopedic.-Fumitol (talk) 03:08, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's a gallery of pictures of the campus, mostly. They wouldn't all fit elsewhere in the article, so that's why there's the gallery. The pictures of students were taken mostly as an example of the demographics. PCHS-NJROTC (Messages) 02:08, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi PCHS, Fumitol. WP:IG is a good yardstick to use in this situation. In other words, do the pictures add to the encyclopedic understanding of the subject? In this case, I'd expect an article about a secondary school to have the following images: one or two showing the building exterior, one or two showing historic photos of the school, and perhaps one to three showing unique events in the school's history (I'm thinking of Columbine or a US President speaking at the school).
To be specific, it seems inappropriate to have photos of current students (somewhat of a BLP issue, and hard to show they are representative of the school), of famous alumni (they have their own page for this), of specific classrooms (unless they are notable in their own right, which they aren't). In other words, I'm recommending that all of the gallery photos be removed, plus the "two girls" and "photo of the principal" in the main section. The one gallery photo that could be encyclopedic is the shot of the rotunda- but it needs some serious cleanup or reshooting so it isn't backlit.
Ultimately, this is what {{commonscat-inline}} is for. It's a great way to link to extra commons photos. I'd strongly recommend budding phtoographers take photos of articles missing photos, rather than adding more photos to the article or Wikimedia Commons for this school. I've gone hunting for photos in my state, perhaps 80% of articles are missing photos. tedder (talk) 03:27, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I hope you bought replacement batteries for your camera! ... I would definitely remove a vast majority of these pictures ... particularly of the current principal and any that have students as the focus. Pictures of the hallways are also not particularly helpful (IMO) of illustrating the school. 1-2 of the main parts of the buildings exterior ... maybe 1-2 of key parts/unique parts of the school (library, gym, the TV studio??). LonelyBeacon (talk) 03:33, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Just adding my comments from the school wikiproject talk page. I also added that if images are properly placed within the article in appropriate sections, there is no need for a gallery in the article that isn't served by a link to the Commons category.
Wow that's a lot of pictures. Galleries for most articles are discouraged. The only time galleries are appropriate within an article are when there are many important examples of a subject, like a particular art or fashion style. Instead, I would recommend creating the category "Port Charlotte High School" on the Commons and placing all pictures there. Then, at the bottom of the Wikipedia article, perhaps in the "See also" or "references" section, place {{Commonscat}} and it will give you a small box directing readers to the gallery images. As it stands now, the gallery dominates the article and most of the pictures aren't really appropriate for an encyclopedic article.
As for the images themselves, I would avoid adding pictures of students unless absolutely necessary, especially ones like "two typical girls" ("typical" is a POV term anyway...it tells us nothing about the school). Focus on the building and even then, just upload pictures of the most notable and unique features of the building to give the reader a general idea of what the school is like. So no, you don't need 5 views of the library and 4 views of the NJROTC classroom or views of each subject classroom or 10 views of the gym or a hallway. Be sure to look at the Image use policy, particularly the section on galleries. --JonRidinger (talk) 15:07, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I figured some of these would be excessive; I uploaded them all however for the community to provide input. Probably some of these could be useful in other parts of Wikipedia, for example, Student, Locker, Head teacher, library, television studio, teenager, Junior Reserve Officers' Training Corps, etc., which was something I considered when taking all of these PCHS-NJROTC (Messages) 15:52, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, PCHS-NJROTC, but I have to agree with Fumitol, LonelyBeacon, and JonRidinger on this. The Gallery is quite excessive, to the point of triviality. I doubt very much this would pass a Good Article reassessment.  JGHowes  talk 15:59, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In addition to what JonRidinger said, you can create galleries as well as categories on Commons where needed, and the former is linked to the article using {{Commons}}. CT Cooper · talk 17:41, 22 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Gay-Straight Alliance is Active at PCHS

I don't understand why the club isn't listed on the school's website and I'm not sure where to find proof of this. I've searched for evidence in news articles but all I can find about the club and the school is the initial drama surrounding it when it originally came to the school. I'm a student at the school and there are many posters advertising the club. Anyone have any tips on how to find evidence?--RaskBunzzz (talk) 04:38, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@RaskBunzzz: Good job updating that. I think they literally restarted that right after I wrote the section, likely to avoid being seen as anti-LGBT. (I kinda wish I wouldn't have written the section... Although I never laughed at any of them as that would be mean, I was one of the students that was against the club, and that position hasn't changed. But just so this doesn't go into an off-topic mess as to why, I don't hate anybody, I'm not afraid of anybody, and I certainly do NOT advocate being cruel to anybody. I'm part of the religious right (specifically, I am an Independent Baptist), a group misunderstood by much of the outside world, increasingly so thanks to idiotic groups like Westboro). PCHS-NJROTC (Messages)Have a blessed day. 01:13, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2004 Hurricanes

I know the article says "Charley, Frances, and Ivan" but that author was in error. School was closed for Hurricane Jeanne, not Ivan. Hurricane Ivan hit the western panhandle and was very far away from Charlotte County when it passed by in the gulf. It did make a loop and reentered on the Atlantic Coast, but by then it was a very weak tropical depression. Second article does mention schools are reopening after Hurricane Jeanne.

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