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Who played bass?
[edit]The article does not mention the bass player on Otis' version, but the Duck Dunn bio says it was Duck. It's a very prominent hook on this record. It think he deserves credit for it. -- Dan Fefferman 12.40.161.231 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:10, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
Placing of info. boxes
[edit]Shouldn't the Aretha Franklin info. box be under the section "covers" as that is in fact a cover and not Redding's, who wrote and originally released the song? This can be very confusing to the reader. Many agree and disagree.Kitchen roll (talk) 20:45, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Lyrics info
[edit]One question everyone has is what Aretha sings right after she spells "respect". I seem to remember this article once had a section called "What did she say?" which revealed that the words were "R-E-S-P-E-C-T, take care, TCB", where "TCB" means "Taking Care of Business". The article went on to describe the origins of the line, and how it had been mis-reported somewhere and how that had driven audience confusion. I really think we should have that info in the article; it's something people want to know. 220.110.235.228 (talk) 10:17, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- OK I've just been through the history and I found that someone removed the whole lyrics section due to "copyright infringement". How can it be copyright infringement to include a mere 4 lines from the song? I'm adding it back in. 220.110.235.228 (talk) 10:23, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- I thought it was "TCP", meaning "take the TCP out of RESPECT" - you are left with "Ree", which is what the backing singers begin singing. That is - the idea is that Aretha is calling the song to the backup singers. James Brown does similar stuff: "Do it one more time, like we did at the top!" It's a thing, it's part of the style. Paul Murray (talk) 02:12, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
one song- two important versions!
[edit]I think it's important that it is well explained the difference between Otis Redding's version and Aretha Franklin's. Both were widely popular and influential for different reasons and those need to be researched and explained more in depth. I think most everyone is familiar with Aretha's version and probably less so with the original. Given how significant and popular her version was I think there needs to be more information about her, just because I would bet the average person coming to this page is looking for that kind of information.
I would also like to change the format somewhat, I do think she should have her own section as well as revising the order of the sections. 209.162.47.37 (talk) 03:54, 7 November 2013 (UTC)beengtuesday
In the flurry of articles following her recent death, I found one that says Wexler did not have to prod her to record Respect, but that she was already singing her own version in live performances. Time does not currently permit me to add/correct it in the article, but here is the quote/link to the Slate article: "Many fans and journalists have assumed that Wexler brought the song to Aretha, in line with standard production practices at the time, but in fact she’d heard Redding’s version years before on the radio and had been performing it live for some time. She’d worked out with her sisters how to reverse the gender point of view, and she came into the studio with her own take on the rhythm of the song already in place." https://slate.com/culture/2018/08/aretha-franklin-dead-the-story-of-respect-the-greatest-cover-of-all-time.html Jazzilady (talk) 14:14, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
Was Aretha also playing piano on "Respect"?
[edit]Article states: "Spooner Oldham was the group's pianist for the number. In an interview he explained it was not uncommon for Franklin herself to play accompanying piano." Well yes indeed, she certainly did! But does she or doesn't she play on this song? If she is not playing piano on Respect, that is not relevant. If she is, she should be listed among the instrumentalists. I don't know the answer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by David Couch (talk • contribs) 08:23, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
'respect' as euphemism
[edit][quote]He won't care if she does him wrong, as long as he gets his due respect, when he comes home ("respect" being a euphemism). [/quote]
That 'respect' is a euphemism is unsupported opinion. The song makes just as much sense if we take it to be the lament of a henpecked man, vainly hoping for a little P&Q when he walks in the door after a hard day down 't mill.
Paul Murray (talk) 02:09, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
- "Sock it to me, sock it to me" et seq. is well-known as a euphemism, too. I don't think she's singing about footwear. 45.58.220.139 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:04, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
additions I want to make to this page
[edit]We will be adding to the recording and legacy tabs. We would like to elaborate on what was going on in the era when this song became popular. Cgraceo68 (talk) 02:01, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
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Aretha Franklin version
[edit]It already mentions in the description that Aretha Franklin played piano for her version. In addition, sources elsewhere also credit Franklin on piano. And while I can't remember what these sources were (or even if it was multiple sources or a single source,) Spooner Oldham is, in turn, credited on organ, according to the very same source(s), and so I made that change, but I'm gonna revert it for now, until I can find the source. Moreover, I seem to remember the source(s) being trustworthy (in the conventional sense, maybe not reliable by WP standards) and I'm also going to look for, not just one, but a couple sources that seem like they'd be the most reliable sources that exist for song/album credits.--2601:153:800:8308:3813:9EF8:FA5A:C703 (talk) 04:47, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
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