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http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4137654,00.html says he was given $20,000, not "hundreds of thousands of dollars". unless you can find a citation that says otherwise, unfortunately the Power of Nightmares offers no citation on that fact. 65.189.146.242 02:36, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Much of this article was just propaganda written by some worshipper of bin Ladin. I will do a new version of this piece.

LDH 20:48, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, the redo is underway. I must say, it's annoying when somebody starts a Wiki article about a significant topic for no purpose other than to publicize his own gripes and biases, let alone his own terrorist propaganda.

LDH 22:24, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

LDH, you screwed up the article. It is not clear whether Fadl was actually a member of Al-Qaeda -- in fact, he probably made the whole thing up so the Justice Department could prosecute Bin Laden in his absence for the Embassy bombings. You also come across to me as some kind of nationalist moron. I reverted the article to the state in which it was before you ruined it.

UBERGOD

You are just another narcissistic and pretentious internet liar, Ubergod. Read what LDH had to say about publicizing one's own gripes, biases, and terrorist propaganda.

Restored al-Fadl's testimony

I wonder how long will pass before some ignorant dipstick like Ubergod deletes it. Idiot. LDH 12:26, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any reason not to delete this section ? It suggests that the US needed to establish that al Qaeda was an organisation fitting a particular legal description so that the RICO act could be used to prosecute bin Laden.

There are no references cited for this, the article references suggest no such thing and googling RICO in connection with case turns up only 1 authoritive reference which mentions the RICO Act has never been used against al Qaeda. The indictment and case have well documented articles here, neither of which have any references to the RICO Act. It is also most notably absent from the law enforcement lists of their "most notable" lists of RICO cases.

This would appear to be fiction, sourced from nowhere other a documentary that also claimed the organisation was never referred to as "al Qaeda" until 2001. Something contradicted by it's 1998 meeting minutes in which the group was formally establised, it's leader named and first members such as al Fadl joined. Attriti0n (talk) 05:04, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think you mean its /1988/ minutes.

But I agree the "Legal Creation" section is nonsensical, like so much else in Wikipedia about hot-button topics like al-Qaeda.

209.121.88.198 (talk) 09:37, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Fadl life in US

Fadl and his family are hidden now somewhere in the US Hi hi hi123526 (talk) 02:57, 7 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I wrote about this guy in early 2001 for a local web magazine (in Scandinavia), using the NYT's print coverage of the trial as a main source. When 9/11 happened half a year later I knew at once that bin Laden (not a household name at the time, pre-9/11) had to be the main suspect. 188.150.64.57 (talk) 02:00, 26 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fadl life in US

Fadl reportedly has 6 kids and is now living in the United States no one has heard of him in a while Hi hi hi123526 (talk) 03:00, 7 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi hi hi123456 Hi hi hi123526 (talk) 03:03, 7 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]