Talk:Saints Cosmas and Damian

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Removed See also section

I removed the See also section because the first entry, linking to Cosmas of Maiuma was already linked at the top of the article; the second entry was not in fact a link to a Wikipedia article but gave information about the oldest church in Brazil, so I moved the info into the article. MishaPan 06:11, 14 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

CE?

The intro states in part, that Cosmas and Damian were "born in Cilicia, or in Arabia (CE)...". What does "(CE)" mean? Most frequently, CE refers to the Common Era, but looking at the disambiguation page [[CE]], I found a number of other meanings, none of which makes sense in this context. MishaPan (talk) 16:22, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My bad: Catholic Encyclopedia). It seemed obvious at the tme. --Wetman (talk) 10:31, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Let's use proper citations, shall we? Carl.bunderson (talk) 18:39, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Catholic POV

This article is heavily Catholic, as in Roman Catholic, when these Saints were canonized and venerated first by the Greek and Antiochian Churches (Now Greek and Antiochian Orthodox Churches, also the Syraic orthodox Churches.) Just pointing out - even the first paragraph has capital-C Catholic, which is traditionally understood to mean specifically the Roman Catholic church. Wouldn't it be more accurate to say they brought many people to the early/ancient Christian faith? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.51.138.62 (talk) 09:29, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Icon shown on the upper left of this page is a Serbian Orthodox icon depicting Saints Damian and Cosmas of Asia Minor (Nov 1/14 feast day), whereas the article mostly describes Saints Damian and Cosmas of ARABIA (Oct. 17 feast day). The SOC, as far as I know, only celebrate the brothers from Asia Minor. We call them "Vrachevi".

I recognized this icon because I have it in my home - they are my family's patron saints (familial patron saints are an old Serbian Orthodox tradition).

You should probably correct this.

ROY - Toronto, Ontario, Canada —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.47.23.227 (talk) 05:37, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I did some more research, and it appears that the SOC does indeed recognize all three pairs of Saints. I was wrong on that one. However, I still strongly suspect that you have the wrong Icon in the upper left of your article.

ROY —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.47.23.227 (talk) 19:32, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Serbian Orthodox Church is part of the Eastern Orthdox Church; which without a doubt venerates all three pairs of the saints. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.225.76.207 (talk) 16:52, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mistranslation of the monicker

"Silverless" as a translation of the Koine word "Anargyroi" is both clumsy and misleading, and, of course, incorrect. (Even though the Koine word for "money" derives from "silver", a literal translation of "anargyroi" would be "for no money".) In standard English, "silverless" denotes "penniless" and is deprecated. The conventional monicker is provided at the end of the article, and is, of course, "unmercenary". Cuzkatzimhut (talk) 01:40, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Description of icon painting at head of article

The description stated: "Icon of Saints Cosmas (left) and Damian (right) holding medicine boxes and spoons for dispensing cures".

That is obviously wrong: there is no spoon in sight, and Cosmas is holding a bottle containing a yellow fluid.

The description of a different illustration of the pair in Isabella Breviary#Sanctoral on f462r runs:

"Cosmas and Damian were twin brothers and physicians according to Christian tradition. They are depicted, one with a urine bottle in his hand, the other with a mortar and pestle."

Bearing that in mind, and the original description of this painting, it seems reasonable to amend the incorrect caption to:

Icon of Saints Cosmas (left) and Damian (right)
one holding a urine bottle and the other a medicine box

Michael F 1967 (talk) 22:18, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]