Talk:Jo Frost

Discussion

IMDB has her birthdate as 1971. Chantessy 16:58, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Apparently an error.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 09:24, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

The "U-Word"...

Does anyone have any information on her speech impediment which makes her render the word "acceptable" as "a-septable"? BaHaReep 07:06, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

A quick search reveals citable sources both online and in printed articles (Evening Standard):

"Not only do we love Jo Frost (left) for her no-nonsense approach to childcare, but because she has also invented a word. Each week, unruly kids are told their behaviour is "unaseptable". It's become the new buzzword in our house."[1]

"Every Monday night, Supernanny Jo Frost goes on a mission to save another family where the children are running amok, subjecting harried parents to what Frost calls mob rule and "unasseptable" behaviour."[2]

That's enough for at least a mention of the unwitting catchphrase in the main article. Personally speaking, we go berserk here when she says it. Unfortunately, we haven't seen the show properly in a while because her last utterance triggered a frenzy that resulted in four hundred pounds worth of property damage and a pregnancy scare. ◄ИΞШSΜΛЯΞ► 13:05, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

jo frost is really nice and only because she carnt say acceptable right doesnt mean she has a speech impediment —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.93.21.74 (talk • contribs) 14:41, 29 May 2006

Yeth it doth! BaHaReep 06:25, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Vintage Reep :) TheRealAntonius 02:57, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

She doesn't have a speech impediment

• This is ridiculous. I don't know how many of you have ever been to England, but I wouldn't for a minute say that Jo Frost has a speech impediment. The correct term is "accent". Moreover, even if she did have what you call a speech "impediment", is that really important enough to be a part of the article? Her accent sounds like an Essex/East End/Estuary type of accent and they talk like that there. --Mezaco 22:19, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
• * I'm from south-east UK and have never heard this variant. Try to provide a scholarly source backing it up. 86.131.95.12 (talk) 10:00, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
• Whilst it is very noticible that she does not say unacceptable with a recieved pronounciation, or (it appears to be pronounced from previous comments) in an american accent, it is a result of an accent rather than a speach impediment. It is not the first time I have heard it pronounced this way! It is not a speach impediment. Thertainly not! Ksbrown 15:07, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
• * I'm from south-east UK and have never heard this variant. Try to provide a scholarly source backing it up. 86.131.95.12 (talk) 10:00, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

She sounds EXACTLY like Alison Steadman's Beverley in ABIGAIL'S PARTY Plutonium27 15:41, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

She has a London/Essex accent. Evryffin else you lot is saying is like wha-evaa, na-wha-I-meen? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.12.150.33 (talk) 00:58, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

She doesn't have a speach impediment its an accent and obviously your not up to scratch on the whole different English accents thing!! From Abby Megan Frost-Smith

Its not exactly an accent or an impediment, she just cant say unacceptable. i remember in the 2nd series, i think in the 1st episode i was shocked when i heard her say it correctly, as i had loved hearing her say it wrongly. but luckily, it returned later in the series

Children of her own

does she have children of her own? i came to this page to look it up, but it doesn't appear that the information is generally available.

No she does not. MrMarmite 15:32, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Why does it state that she has two children on the main page? She doesn't have any children.

"While she has 2 kids of her own, Samantha Lauren forst and Amber Jane forest and husband Ron Frost has 22 years' experience in the field of childcare,[4]"

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.20.216.250 (talk) 16:31, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Pregnancy

Apparently, there is a rumour that Jo Frost is pregnant - it was supposedly announced on the Ellen show... However, until we get a verifiable source it must stay out of the article. I am looking at the moment, but not managing to find anything. Anyone else? fg 08:50, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Apparently not.[3] DWaterson 13:07, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

OK - we'll make sure it stays out of the article then.fg 15:05, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Credentials?

This article just mentions she's been a nanny since college. However, I'm curious as to what her credentials are. Does she have a degree in child care, child development, etc.? Or is she just smart about kids? Twineball 02:25, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Joa Frost

In the article it is claimed that she was born to "an English father and a Gibraltar-born mother, Joa Frost": this does not cite its sources and I could not find anything on the internet to verify this. --Snigbrook ^(talk) 00:33, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

I suggest that this, and any other facts without citation are removed. Then we can remove the "This article needs additional citations for verification" and start again. Anybody disagree? fg (talk) 13:52, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Parody

Why mention the South Park episode Tsst if it does not contain a parady of Jo???

I mean using that logic you could include any details about anything.

Or does it???

Now there is an edit saying she it in this episode!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.42.253.138 (talk) 19:36, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Being parodied might be interesting, encyclopedic, providing there was some analysis of what aspect of what about Frost was being parodied. That should come from a cited, reliable reference, though. Piano non troppo (talk) 16:11, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Madame Morrible

I cannot find any source - reliable or not - that suggests Jo Frost will be appearing in Madame Morrible from Jan 2010. Can anyone else see anything? I'm going to remove it as unverified. If anyone else spots something, we can re-include it later. Fuzzygum (talk) 09:25, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

"JoJo" ?

Wha...? "JoJo?" Tell me you're kidding. Like, "oo, let's make up some trendy nick-name" -- is there some reference that can be cited to verify this? Or is it just some typical private-enterprise media attempt to enhance marketing opportunities? Surely a more imaginative nick-name could have been dreamed up, in that case. Or perhaps it's legit and has been in place since childhood; either way, let's get some ref material here. Thank you and have a good evening.
--Atikokan (talk) 02:21, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

actually, i think i heard her call herself it, on one of the american episodes of supernanny. i could be mistaken, of course, and also there is no way to verify it, without watching them all again, which you can't do cos they're not on dvd, right? it might appear in the future somewhere, delete it until it does? 77.99.212.29 (talk) 00:13, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

It has been used in dialogue between Frost and some of the children in Suppernanny USA but it hardly needs to be included at all.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 12:41, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Education

Could someone add something about her education. She gives advice on developmental psychology, and it would be good to know what she has studied and what qualifications she holds. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.234.110.245 (talk) 16:45, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Edit request

Jo Frost is a global parenting and family expert who is best known as “Supernanny.”

Frost was born on June 27-1970 and has over 20 years of experience in childcare. In 2004, Frost rose to international fame by producing and appearing as the parental expert in the international TV show “Supernanny” originally released in the UK and then released in the US. Supernanny ran for 6 years. In addition to “Supernanny”, Jo Frost also created, developed, executive produced and starred in 4 international formats: “Extreme Parental Guidance”, “Jo Frost: Family Matters,” “Family SOS with Jo Frost,” and “Jo Frost: Nanny on Tour” In addition to her TV success she is a New York Times best seller and the author of 6 parenting books -- Jo Frost’s Toddler Rules, Jo Frost’s Toddler SOS, Jo Frost’s Confident Baby Care, Jo Frost’s Confident Toddler Care, Supernanny, and Ask Supernanny .

Jo Frost is a global advocate for the United Nations Foundation’s Shot@Life movement , which aims to decrease vaccine-preventable childhood diseases and deaths, giving every child a shot at a healthy and joyful life .

Alongside her work with the United Nations , she is also a global key note speaker for parental and familial issues, an active supporter for those who live with anaphylaxis and life threatening allergies as well as the 2014 ambassador for FARE (Food, Allergy, Research and Education) and an activist for children of neglect and poverty

Jo Frost is currently living between California and the UK with fiance Darrin Jackson.

References

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.242.20.141 (talk • contribs) 15:53, March 12, 2015

I love her, so this is fun! I am assuming that what you're wanting is to overlay the article with this draft, which I can see is better formatted, but I'm seeing some issues with sources, some bits that aren't sourced in the article now and in the draft, etc. So, it seems to make sense to tackle items one-by-one; work within some standard practices for layout, tone and sources; and see how it shakes out. It will definitely be better in the end... I'll get started.--CaroleHenson (talk) 16:25, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Although I've added to some content and used different sources, I think the objective of tidying up the prose and ordering it chronologically has been done. I'm still working on the article, though, so feel free to add any comments or question additions, etc.

Regarding sources, I generally steer clear of blogs - I left one blog in because it was written by a journalist, but I normally strive to get sources that have gone through and editorial review process. For biographies of living people, I steer clear of content that comes from the subject's website or otherwise from them. My goal is to find everything that I can from newspapers, magazines, journals, and books (not self-published books, though). So, you'll find that several sources have been changed.

Balancing the content is also important, so there is some information from detractors, too.

Is there anything that you see that's an issue? Tweaks for British English?--CaroleHenson (talk) 02:09, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Marked as addressed.--CaroleHenson (talk) 10:31, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Date / year of birth

Does anyone know where there's a reliable source for her date / year of birth. The article say she's born in 1970 - and I see that in some sources that I wouldn't consider having me the definition of reliable sources. In the authority control records (VIAF and ISNI} for Frost, her year of birth is 1971 (no month and day) and there are a couple of newspapers (like this one that give her year of birth as 1971 (again, just the year). On that basis, it seems to make sense to me to change it to 1971, leave out the month and day, and appropriately source it. But anytime the information is specific, it seems to me that it could be accurate. Any input to square this away is very much appreciated!--CaroleHenson (talk) 02:17, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Felix Folio Secundus Oh, hi! I just saw "Discussion" at the top of the page about her year of birth. Do you have any insight to my question? Thanks!!!--CaroleHenson (talk) 02:19, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Found it! AP Online published a Today in History on June 27, 2014 that said she was 44. Eureka!--CaroleHenson (talk) 04:04, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

And the equally WP:RS TV Guide gives her birth year as 1970. So no Eureaka — it's not unusual for celebrities to try to shave a year or two off their ages, and when equally RS sources give two dates, we don't POV cherry-pick the one we like best but neutrally include both. --65.78.8.103 (talk) 19:32, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

And The Daily Telegraph — a respected English newspaper already cited twice elsewhere in this article — has a 2010 interview with her in which she acknowledges the 1970 date. --65.78.8.103 (talk) 19:44, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

Using the birth registration index for England and Wales, I found she was born in 1970 and changed the article accordingly. Dextrose12 (talk) 00:39, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

Looking through past discussions, FamilySearch does not seem to be WP:RS. I don't have an account (nor do I plan on making one...), but from what I can tell, it appears to be user-submitted content, which is generally not reliable (see WP:UGC).

Some discussions I went through worth a read-through regarding this:

• Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 188#Ancestry.com
• Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 193#need to prove familysearch.org can be used as a source for birth records on Wikipedia
• Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 115#familysearch.org
• Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 229#prabook/geni.com/Familysearch

I also found a recent (January 2020) article stating she is 49, which would support 1970 as her birthday is in June, but that source does not seem to be reliable. Magitroopa (talk) 23:24, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

I said I used the birth registration index for England and Wales, which is compiled by the General Register Office of England and Wales. Familysearch just hosts the database. I thought it was clear from my citation that it was definitely not user-submitted content. Dextrose12 (talk) 00:01, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

Found this recent article from The New York Post. The article is from June 22, 2020, stating that she is 49. Her birthday is a few days later on June 27, so either they rounded up to a few days later, or had it based on the day they posted it. No clue which, but certainly this will be able to be used as a source. Magitroopa (talk) 02:46, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

We also have this tweet of hers confirming her birthday is on June 27. Also found a tweet from Famous Birthdays and a tweet from AP Planner, both saying she turned 49 this year, both of which would support her being born in 1971. Magitroopa (talk) 02:51, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

And yet, despite some good sources saying she turned 49 this year, this recent tweet of her's (on her birthday) seemingly confirms she turned 50 this year, so it would be 1970 then... Magitroopa (talk) 01:25, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

In this interview in people magazine https://twitter.com/pplasocial/status/1299033812903448582?s=21 It clearly states ‘Frost celebrates her 50th birthday on June 27, along with a photo of Frost blowing out the candles on a 50th Birthday Cake. Also this tweet from Jo herself https://twitter.com/Jo_Frost/status/1276898366308233217 confirms that Frost was infact born on 27 June 1970.2A02:C7F:7A9B:A100:4468:90B5:AB7F:A382 (talk) 01:00, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Oh wow, I hadn't actually seen that a new article on her came out just the other day. Yeah, now definitely seems like we can use all the sources for 1970, including this. Magitroopa (talk) 01:08, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

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Jo Frost

Why does this not have any more information on her personal life. Why does she not have children or if she does why are they not on here. 2603:8090:1B01:20C:6D77:77B0:B037:E6DB (talk) 13:43, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

Jo Frost did not spear on parent jury/parental guidance

• What I think should be changed (format using {{textdiff}}): Add a new paragraph to career - television:

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No old text.

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Parental Guidance (2021), then titled Parent Jury was set to star Jo Frost. Due to travel restrictions she was unavailable..

Remove works - programmes:

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The Parent Jury. Australia. 2021 .

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• Why it should be changed:Information is inaccurate/ incomplete
• References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): 6th paragraph. As well date of article and listing of when the show is to air used to establish that Parental Guidance aired in 2021.

Joywhat (talk) 05:05, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

References

 Done I removed this show from works and added the original citation and yours to the career section. Thanks. Jamedeus (talk) 02:54, 6 March 2024 (UTC)