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Coordination with USS Franklin (CV-13) page

"On 19 March, the carrier USS Franklin was hit with two bombs from a single D4Y, which then escaped despite heavy anti-aircraft fire. Franklin was so heavily damaged that she was retired until the end of the war. Another D4Y hit the carrier USS Wasp."

I don't see any citation, but when referring to the same event, the USS Franklin page says:

"Suddenly, a single aircraft – possibly a Yokosuka D4Y "Judy" dive bomber, though other accounts suggest an Aichi D3A "Val", also a dive bomber – pierced the cloud cover and made a low level run on the ship to drop two semi-armor-piercing bombs. The damage analysis came to the conclusion that the bombs were 550 pounds (250 kg). Accounts differ as to whether the attacking aircraft escaped or was shot down."

This does not appear to have any citation either.

This page is a great deal more specific than the USS Franklin page. I would assume that is because this page uses a Japanese source, and the USS Franklin page uses a US source. Either way, either the USS Franklin page could use this information, if verified, or this page should recognize the existence of contradicting sources, if there is not sufficient reason to establish this version with certainty. I intend to put this on the USS Franklin page as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.123.31.144 (talk) 21:59, 25 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

-- If you cite only yourself, your knowledge will remain stone aged. Read the Franklin action report and all well-known Japanese books on the two airplanes concerned and their technical features. I've been for nearly five decades working in naval history, especially the Pacific War, a 2.000 title plus library on that single subject at home, and you really need more than a stupid repetition of the same fault ("look here, the earth is a dish") to counter the simple fact that the Suisei could carry only one large bomb whereas the Ryusei could carry two, and there were two major nearly simultaneously hits recorded by the damage control of Franklin admidships. That should be sufficient proof even for Wikipedia (which is admittedly not the most serious source - on any subject). ~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:58:A46B:8500:3D3B:E6B3:2EDB:FE2C (talk) 13:20, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

RATO?

What does RATO mean in reference to a WWII Japanese dive bomber and the Zero? "Max Gadney said was the 'fastest dive-bomber of World War II' and that it was 'faster than the Zero' if RATO equipped."

This is highly unlikely to mean Rocket Assisted Take Off as linked.

Jeffkw (talk) 22:32, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind, I see the later reference to RATO rockets used as a terminal accelerators in the kamikaze D4Y4 model. I removed it from the Max Gadney reference, as it is not in the cited material.

Jeffkw (talk) 22:45, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]