Talk:COVID-19 pandemic in Quebec

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Thanks for making this page. Mackinaw (talk) 17:43, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

• I'm sorry I can't help here, more. But I have placed an interwiki link from the French article on the pandemic in Canada, in the section on Quebec, so that may draw some interest from readers at frwiki who are conversant in English. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:30, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

March 24th cases

March 24th had 1013 cases, NOT 1040. Why are my fixes from 1040 to 1013 being reverted back to 1040? See https://web.archive.org/web/20200324220312/https://www.quebec.ca/sante/problemes-de-sante/a-z/coronavirus-2019/situation-coronavirus-quebec/ for confirmation. Humanoid (talk) 21:59, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi there, thanks for taking the time to double-check the historical numbers. There are two main retroactive changes to the total count for Quebec. Firstly, March 21 deaths originally reported as 5 and later down-revised to 4 as the presumed COVID+ case turned out to be COVID-negative. Secondly, March 24 had a data input error. The number of cases for Chaudière was incorrectly input as "14" instead of "41", which is why the real total cases is 1040 and why the row adds up to a delta of 412. You were looking at reference #12 in isolation without considering reference 13 https://web.archive.org/web/20200325220706/https://www.quebec.ca/sante/problemes-de-sante/a-z/coronavirus-2019/situation-coronavirus-quebec/

1. L’augmentation observée pour la région de Chaudière-Appalaches n’est pas une réelle augmentation du nombre de cas en 24 heures, mais plutôt attribuable à une erreur de transmission de la donnée en date du 24 mars (le nombre était plutôt de 41 et non 14)

Given that the number error was a data-input error, we have not considered a footnote necessary to explain the discrepancy. There was in fact originally a subnote on the Canadian page for both of these errors that got removed eventually as they were not considered notable enough: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3A2019%E2%80%9320_coronavirus_pandemic_data%2FCanada_medical_cases&type=revision&diff=947647530&oldid=947645644

I'm going to move the above-named citation from the March 25 row to the March 24 so that the citation is more clear. I'm also going to revert your changes tonight after you've had the chance to read the message here and respond. If you disagree with the numbers after reading the above links, we can discuss it with the other editors.

--Gau Choob (talk) 22:40, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation! I will put it back to 1040 myself. Humanoid (talk) 22:44, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

This note needs to be put somewhere, in case others come later and notice the contradiction. Humanoid (talk) 22:53, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Why remove the map of Montreal?

I understand that we don’t need to show the exact numbers in a table, but why remove the map? — [ kentronhayastan ] 14:29, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Cases by region numbering

Is there a reason for the formatting/ordering of this section? Do the numbers have significance? Also we do not include wikilinks in section headings. ViperSnake151  Talk  19:13, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Spacing

Is there way to add spaces between the % change bracket and the number of cases on the "COVID-19 cases in Quebec, Canada" graph? The second the province hit 5 digits in cases, the bracket started overlapping the amount of cases (April 8 and onward) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fornico (talk • contribs) 00:09, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Dates

I believe all the dates on this page are off by 1 day. The cases, according to the official government site is 1 day behind the date that we are displaying here. I believe the confusion is that they are mentioned the following day by the prime minister, but I believe we should follow the date provided by the official government. Consider this for a moment: as it stands, it looks like there were 16,798 cases on April 17, but in truth, April 17 is not yet over, and that number of cases is actually for April 16. — [ kentronhayastan ] 17:53, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

I think that to avoid confusion the date should be the date of reporting (the updates go live on the government website at about 1 PM local time each day); since the "time" accuracy of the information at this point is pretty much a moot point (testing always presents some form of time lag, and the assumed under-reporting of cases does not help - retroactive changes, such as those on March 23 or on April 16, should be proof enough of that...). I also think that is how the numbers are most commonly presented in the press... Though, to be fair, the government website isn't clear on the matter as the cited origin of the information is from the previous day 18h00 while the information is presented "as of (current day) 13h15"... 107.190.33.254 (talk) 02:59, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Manual of style on English Wikipedia

These vary from the French Wikipedia so I thought I'd let contributors know about: WP:CITEFOOT, MOS:CITEPUNCT, MOS:QUOTEMARKS and MOS:PUNCT. Happy editing, —PaleoNeonate – 09:00, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

April 19???

Numbers don't add up for Apr 19, someone put the wrong values for the regions in the template chart [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by FornicoP (talk • contribs) 18:22, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

@FornicoP: Then you should be bold and fix it! Also, don't forget to sign your comments. 107.190.33.254 (talk) 18:35, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

2020 coronavirus pandemic in Montreal

Bonjour Wikipedians from Quebec, So the largest city in the province of Quebec is Montreal. I hope anyone will create article titled 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Montreal, The proposed article will be titled as 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Montreal will be focused on the pandemic specifically within the city of Montreal, Quebec including the nearby city of Laval, Quebec. The propose article will include how many active cases, how many deaths, how many recoveries and how many overall cases within the city of Montreal. The IP number 45.73.109.22 from Gatineau, Quebec has made a requested article to be created as an article and the sister article to the 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Quebec. I will by happy for anyone's reply for the requested article to created and will be only focused on the city of Seattle. Thanks for your time. Come back some other time. 2001:569:74D2:A800:E8A7:C78A:4BC8:6B88 (talk) 06:53, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Oppose I do not think a separate page for individual regions/cities is necessary. As of right now, the section for Montreal has about 600 words; all of it in a very Wikipedia:Proseline manner. I am sure someone could take the time (maybe once things settle down?) to reduce this to a more proper format, but then it would have maybe half the words; hardly enough for an independent article. In any case; basing this on the suggestions from WP:SPLIT; the current amount of text in the article (i.e. just over 20k characters; despite the size of over 140kb; most of which seems to be taken up by the various charts at the bottom...) does not justify a split. 107.190.33.254 (talk) 13:37, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Can the copyedit tag be removed?

After reading this, I don't think this article really needs any copy-editing. Would it be safe to remove it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Applemonkey496 (talk • contribs) 18:08, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

I've been slowly going through it and adjusting wording here and there, but I don't think I've seen any comprehension-inhibiting mistakes. With that said, I think there's still some improvements that can be made. Not sure if it's enough to warrant a CE tag though. So unless someone else disagrees, I'd say you can remove it. - Nsophiay (talk) 22:06, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Quebec province or city?

This article must differentiate between the province of Quebec and the city of Quebec, as it is not clear which is being referred to. My suggestion would be to state 'Quebec City' when the city is the topic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.138.217.79 (talk) 18:38, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

How to update data?

Hi, I'm new to Wikipedia as an editor. I was wondering, what is the source of the historical data used in this page? I'm talking specifically about the giant "Breakdown of cases" table and associated charts etc. I'm writing this message on July 16th and noticed that there have been no data updates for July 13-14-15. Wanted to do it myself but couldn't figure out the data source and methodologies. Tried comparing to some other sources of data and couldn't resolve the numbers in a way that was consistent. Sorry if this post is too noob, I've never tried to do an edit before. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zibalatz (talk • contribs) 05:26, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Last footnote in regards to recovery bump

The last footnote currently reads: On 17 July 2020, the large jump in recoveries is due to an update of previously stale data by the Institut national de santé publique du Québec (INSPQ), mostly for the Montreal region. These two new articles say that the criteria had changed but that Quebec did not specify what system they were using to calculate recoveries when they announced the dramatic increase Friday morning and that it’s unclear what has changed in the province’s criteria for designating a case as “recovered” since Quebec health authorities did not provide an explanation of their methodology before and after the new surge. Is there an explanation from the government? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:41, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

@User:Tenryuu - yes there is an explanation of the methodology. It is explained in detail at https://www.inspq.qc.ca/covid-19/donnees/methodologie. The article is in french only. Jcharest57 (talk) 15:49, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

References

Bar graph problem

The list of new cases by region is wildly contradicted by the bar graphs beneath them. It appears the bar graphs use old numbers with new dates put underneath them. 96.54.128.82 (talk) 01:03, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks to whoever fixed this. 96.54.128.82 (talk) 21:39, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Carte des paliers

Bonjour,

On a remplacé la carte de densité de cas, qui n'a pas été mis à jour depuis le 24 mai, par celle des palier d'alerte par région administrative, qui est plus d'actualité et plus simple à mettre à jour également. Vous pourriez vouloir faire la même chose sur l'article anglais. Dirac (talk) 13:44, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Update the map

The map and legend hasn't been updated since the 24th of May, 2020. On that date, there were 47,411 total cases. There are 82,992 total cases as of October 8th, 2020 (date of this post) and rapidly rising, the map needs to reflect the current situation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fornico (talk • contribs) 17:29, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

It is a shame that whomever create the image has not kept it up to date. I suggest that it be removed from the Infobox until such a time that someone can find the script for updating it. Jcharest57 (talk) 19:41, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

Pinging Kentronhayastan, creator of the map. CaffeinAddict (talk) 03:55, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

I’m sorry for not updating it anymore. I have been too busy with other things in my life to keep up to date and contribute my time to this. It’s a simple standard SVG file, so it should be trivial for anyone to pick up where I left off and update it. If no one wants to update it, then I agree that it should be removed from the infobox.— [ kentronhayastan ] 03:26, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

 Done Both this map and the one for Montreal have been updated. Nsophiay (talk) 10:40, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

French only data

Wondering if we should be including the French only [2] website for the daily update data on the "Website" section of the infobox. It's used in the COVID-19 pandemic in Canada article, as it's the only daily updated data source for the pandemic in Quebec. CaffeinAddict (talk) 03:57, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

CaffeinAddict, if there isn't an English version of this, that's fine per WP:NONENG. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) (🎁 Wishlist! 🎁) 07:10, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

 Done That's what I thought, I have added the French only website so both English and French websites are on display, however the French website is the only regularly updated site by the province. CaffeinAddict (talk) 17:07, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Update

I've added an update header so as to hopefully expedite some of the information that needs updated, some of which is mentioned in above talk page sections. CaffeinAddict (talk) 14:59, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Active cases map

COVID-19 Outbreak Active Cases in Quebec (per 100 000)

I created a map that shows active cases per 100,000 by administrative region (as shown on the right — suggestions welcome), as I think it's a more informative statistic as to how the pandemic is currently going. However, I feel like having two maps in the infobox might make things a bit cluttered, so I'd like to get a second opinion (paging CaffeinAddict). Is it best to:

1. Replace the current one, which shows total cases per 100,000, with the active cases one
2. Use both
3. Use only the active cases one

Nsophiay (talk) 18:13, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

 Done The map of active cases per 100,000 is now being used in the infobox. Nsophiay (talk) 02:01, 22 April 2021 (UTC)