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A fact from Gunilda appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 14 December 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the Cousteau Society visited the wreck of the yacht Gunilda in Lake Superior in 1980, calling it "the most beautiful shipwreck in the world"?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2020/December. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/SY Gunilda.

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 02:17, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Gunilda stranded on McGarvey Shoal

... that in 1980 the Cousteau Society visited the wreck of the yacht Gunilda in Lake Superior, calling it "the most beautiful shipwreck in the world"? Gunilda - Save Ontario Shipwrecks
- ALT1:... that the steam yacht Gunilda sank in 1911 on Lake Superior after being towed off a shoal? Gunilda - Bowling Green State University

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Waikiki Biltmore Hotel

Created/expanded by GreatLakesShips (talk). Self-nominated at 18:33, 22 November 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Article is big and new enough, correct creator credited. No copyright infringement. The final voyage section is blank. Also there is a piece of text: " Broennle located Hague's close" -- was that supposed to include "skeleton" "remains" or "corpse"? The article itself is neutral even if some are enthused by the subject. It is completely referenced, in some places, citation overkill. QPQ is not strictly required as only 3 DYK credits received till today (1 failed, and 2 other noms in progress though, so QPQ will be needed soon) (update: QPQ confirmed) Picture is in article, and would be public domain due to age. It is clear at the mini size. Original hook is in article, referenced and confirmed. good to go with original hook. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:34, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I have plans to finish the final voyage section today, or tomorrow when I have more free time. Also, thanks for pointing out the mistake I made in the salvage attempts section (I accidentally missed out the word "remains"). Thanks for reviewing. GreatLakesShips (talk) 15:05, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I have completed the article GreatLakesShips (talk) 03:29, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations

I am a direct descendant of the owners of Cox & King who designed Gunilda. You kindly referenced their catalogue which I bought in the US a few years ago and created a webpage for it https://www.francoisgrosjean.ch/cox_and_king/catalogue.html

It's a real pleasure to see this new entry and I wish to congratulate the author(s).

When Wendy Schnur and I did a thorough search and listing of the Cox & King vessels (see here: https://www.francoisgrosjean.ch/cox_and_king/vessels.html), we presented the owners in this order: J. Sladen, F. Sykes (England) & W. Harkness (NY).

Note that Becken of Cowes has a lovely photo of Gunilda taken in 1897, a copy of which I had to buy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.125.195.142 (talk) 21:02, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@130.125.195.142: thank you so much for the information! Do you happen to know how I can find this image of Gunilda? GreatLakesShips (talk) 21:25, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Beken of Cowes

Here is their contact page: https://www.beken.co.uk/contact/ Note that Gunilda is not in their gallery but they do have the 1897 photo and it is quite lovely. Good luck to you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.125.195.142 (talk) 21:39, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@130.125.195.142: thanks very much! GreatLakesShips (talk) 22:26, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"King" Hague

The second para under Gunilda today mentions the death of Charles "King" Hague in 1970 - but the second para under Salvage attempts mentions Jack "King" Hague. Maybe his name was Jack Charles Hague (or Charles Jack Hague) and his nickname was King - but either way it would be helpful of his name was consistent.
Prisoner of Zenda (talk) 03:10, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Prisoner of Zenda: Corrected. Thanks for pointing that out. GreatLakesShips (talk) 15:59, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

GNL

CaptainAngus, the outcome of the discussion we had regarding the use of the word "manned" ended with the decision to keep it in the article. I have not changed my mind, and MOS:GNL doesn't outlaw the use of the word, except when applied to space programs. Please stop trying to force your obsession with gender neutral language onto this article. GreatLakesShips 🤘 (talk - contribs) 18:51, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@GreatLakesShips: Two things:

Apologize for the duplicative edit, I didn't remember the past edit or the discussion, I just came across this page again.
It's a bit much to suggest a good-faith edit is me 'forcing' my 'obsession'. We don't need to rehash the past discussion, but attempting to update the statement in a more general way is hardly a display of force. Wikipedia:GF

CaptainAngus (talk) 01:52, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]