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That's an awesome brand in my experience — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.30.38.102 (talk) 19:26, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Flexball

Hello! I'd like to submit another request to improve this article's accuracy on behalf of Gillette.

Currently, the following appears at the bottom of the Current products section:

  • Fusion ProGlide FlexBall released in June 2014

This is not the correct name of the product. I propose changing this bullet to the following, per the already used CNBC inline citation:

  • Fusion ProGlide with FlexBall technology, released in June 2014 and now referenced to solely as ProGlide[1]  Done

Also, below this bullet (following "23 microns shorter"), I propose adding the following:

  • Fusion ProShield with Flexball technology, released in November 2015 and now called the ProGlide Shield.[2] The razor has lubrication before and after the blade for skin protection, and the handle is made of zinc, plastic and engineering elastomer.[3]  Not done

References

  1. ^ Brownfield, Andy (March 16, 2021). "P&G targets fastest-growing sports market with new Gillette sponsorship". Cincinnati Business Courier. Retrieved April 1, 2021.
  2. ^ Malin, Zoe (August 7, 2020). "How to get rid of razor burn, bumps and ingrown hair". NBC News. Retrieved April 1, 2021.
  3. ^ Brunsman, Barrett J. (March 11, 2016). "I Tried It: Here's why P&G's new Gillette razor is the best ever". Cincinnati Business Courier. Retrieved April 1, 2021.

There may be better sources to use as citations, but I wanted to at least demonstrate use of current product names in secondary coverage. If confirmation of current products names on the company's website is helpful, see ProGlide and ProGlide Shield. Same as before, I'm hoping editors can review this attempt to make the article more accurate and update the page on my behalf. Thanks again! EA.Ketchum (talk) 14:21, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think this (excessively) detailed list of products is close to a catalogue, should be edited out, and only product ranges be described (e.g. Gillette Sensor which debuted in 1990, and was the first razor to have spring-loaded blades; Mach3 - the first three-blade razor, introduced in 1998, which Gillette claims reduces irritation and requires fewer strokes; Venus which is a division of razors for women; etc). So I’m happy to correct the error in product naming, but I oppose turning Wikipedia into a sales sheet, per WP:PLOT, WP:LC, WP:TMI, and WP:PROMO. On a very personal note, I think this constant edit requests from companies requesting to add products, features and accolades only attracts unwanted attention from zealous editors, which will end up in a cleanup. Ferkjl (talk) 19:16, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

List of products

Hello! I'd like to revisit the Product history section, which has the warning banner: This section needs additional citations for verification. Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (February 2017).

To date, I've submitted a series of edit requests to provide sources for this section, update the list of products, and fix inaccurate information. However, the tag remains, and immediately above this post User:Ferkijel said:

  • "I think this (excessively) detailed list of products is close to a catalogue, should be edited out, and only product ranges be described ... So I’m happy to correct the error in product naming, but I oppose turning Wikipedia into a sales sheet, per WP:PLOT, WP:LC, WP:TMI, and WP:PROMO. On a very personal note, I think this constant edit requests from companies requesting to add products, features and accolades only attracts unwanted attention from zealous editors, which will end up in a cleanup."

There remain several issues with the list of products: (1) there is still unsourced text, (2) some of the "current" products are not actually being manufactured at this time, and (3) the company's most recent products are not included. My goal has never been to turn this article into a sales sheet, or to list every single product manufactured by Gillette, but I have worked to identify product line gaps and add mention of notable launches based on strong coverage.

I welcome attention from editors to help with list cleanup, but what's the best path forward?

  • Am I submitting requests to correct the list? If so, all of these "current" products are not being manufactured:
    • Good News!, Custom Plus, Mach3 Turbo Champion, Mach3 Power, Mach3 Power Nitro, Fusion Power Phantom, Fusion Power Phenom, Fusion Power Gamer
  • Am I submitting requests to update the list? If so, the following are missing:
    • G5 (Gillette5) Razor, Gillette Styler, Planet KIND Skincare Line, King C. Gillette Beard Care Line
  • Do editors prefer to remove the list of products, or should I continue to expand the list?
    • As a reminder, back in January I had proposed splitting the list of products to List of Gillette products, which User:Anachronist declined "unless there's a community consensus that the article has become unwieldy". I don't know what length constitutes as "unwieldy" but several sections have been added to History, and the list of products would be longer if more complete. Do other editors have thoughts on removing, expanding, or splitting the list of products?

I know I'm supposed to use Template:Request edit when submitting article improvement suggestions, but since this is a more complex discussion, I'd like to invite User:Anachronist, User:Ferkijel, User:MJL, User:Pelagic, and User:Vaticidalprophet to share thoughts as previously edit request reviewers here, before seeking help from a wider audience. Feedback would help me understand what sort of requests I should be submitting moving forward.

Thank you! EA.Ketchum (talk) 14:31, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm in favor of shortening the list to list the product lines or ranges. The individual product names within each product line could be listed in a single sentence, as in "This product line includes X, Y, Z, etc.". A Wikipedia article about a company isn't a public relations platform. Such details are better left on company-hosted web pages, which can be cited if readers want more details. ~Anachronist (talk) 18:17, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Anachronist: Thanks for your feedback here. I agree with your reasoning, and since no other editors left feedback I've gone ahead and made a shortened list of product lines as replacement text. Based on your feedback, and using similar sourcing, I've trimmed the list to focus more on lines/ranges than specific products and made sure the discontinued and current lists are correct and up to date. Please see below:
Discontinued products
  • Techmatic was a single blade razor introduced in the mid-1960s. It featured a disposable cartridge with a razor band which was advanced by means of a lever. This exposed an unused portion of the band and was the equivalent of five blades. This product line also included the Adjustable Techmatic.
  • Trac II was the world's first two-blade razor, debuting in 1971.[1] Gillette claimed that the second blade cut the number of strokes required and reduced facial irritation. This product line also included the Trac II Plus.
  • Atra (known as the Contour, Slalom, Vector in some markets) was introduced in 1977[2] and was the first razor to feature a pivoting head, which Gillette claimed made it easier for men to shave their necks. This product line also included the Atra Plus, which featured a lubricating strip, dubbed Lubra-Soft.
  • Good News! was the first disposable, double-blade razor, released in 1976.[3][4] Varieties included the "Original", the "Good News! Plus", and the "Good News! Pivot Plus".
  • Custom Plus was a series of disposable razors that came in many varieties: the "Fixed Disposable razor", the "Pivot Disposable razor", the "Custom Plus 3 Sensitive Disposable", and the "Custom Plus 3 Soothing Disposable". Fusion Power Phenom was released in February 2008. It had a blue and silver color scheme.[5] Other discontinued variants include the Fusion Power Gamer.
Current products
  • Gillette Sensor debuted in 1990,[6] and was the first razor to have spring-loaded blades. Gillette claimed the blades receded into the cartridge head, when they make contact with skin, helping to prevent cuts and allowing for a closer shave.[7] This product line also includes the Sensor Excel,[8] the Sensor 3, and the Sensor 3 Cool.[9][10] Blue II is a line of disposable razors. In Latin America, it was marketed as the Prestobarba. Another product in the line is the Blue 3, a line of three-blade disposable razors, cheaper than Sensor 3.
  • Mach3 - the first three-blade razor, introduced in 1998,[11] which Gillette claims reduces irritation and requires fewer strokes. In 2016,[12] P&G upgraded the Gillette Mach3 razor: This product comes in disposable, sensitive and "turbo" variants as well.[13][14]
  • Venus is a division of razors for women. Products include Venus Divine, Venus Vibrance, Venus Embrace, Venus Breeze, Venus Spa Breeze and Venus ProSkin Moisture Rich.
  • Gillette Fusion is a five-bladed razor released in 2006. The Fusion has five blades on the front and a single sixth blade on the rear for precision trimming.[15][16] Its marketing campaign was fronted by the sports stars Roger Federer, Thierry Henry, and Tiger Woods.[17][18] Razors in this product line include Fusion Power, Fusion ProGlide Shield, Fusion ProGlide, Fusion ProGlide Power,[19] and Fusion ProGlide with FlexBall Technology.[20][21] The ProGlide FlexBall has a handle that allows the razor cartridge to pivot.[22]
  • Gillette All-Purpose Styler, released in 2012, is a waterproof beard trimmer that can cut four different lengths.[23]
  • King C. Gillette Beard Care Line came out in May of 2020 named for the company’s founder and offers beard care products including a Complete Men's Beard Kit, a double-sided safety razor, shave gel, beard and face wash, balm and oil.[24]
  • Planet KIND Skincare Line launched in February of 2021 as a new sustainable shaving and skincare brand, featuring a razor, shave cream, moisturizer and face wash. The razor is constructed from 60 percent recycled plastic and refills are designed with five blades that can each be used for up to a month. Planet KIND partnered with recycling company TerraCycle to design a program through which you can recycle the razor and blades.[25]

References

  1. ^ Tiffany, Kaitlyn. "The absurd quest to make the "best" razor". Vox. Retrieved 2019-09-18.
  2. ^ Cite error: The named reference :1 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  3. ^ Cutler, Rodney (September 11, 2007). "The Grooming Awards Hall of Fame: Gillette Good News". Esquire. Retrieved January 7, 2021.
  4. ^ Tobias, Andrew (July 12, 1976). "Gillette's New Ploy: Throwing Away the Razors to Sell the Blades". New York. 9 (28). New York Media, LLC: 55. ISSN 0028-7369. Retrieved January 7, 2021.
  5. ^ "Gillette Unveils Newest Members of Its Gillette Young Guns Lineup" (Press release). Gillette. February 11, 2008. Archived from the original on September 7, 2012. Retrieved February 15, 2008.
  6. ^ "Manufacturing can thrive but struggles for respect". Reuters. 2011-12-14. Retrieved 2019-09-18.
  7. ^ "Gillette Ups the Razor Ante. Again". Boston.com. April 29, 2014. Retrieved January 7, 2021.
  8. ^ Shoebridge, Neil (October 23, 1995). "Gillette's better-blade plan has profits rising smoothly". Australian Financial Review. Retrieved January 7, 2021.
  9. ^ Selwood, Daniel (February 20, 2018). "Gillette counters falling sales with packaging overhaul". The Grocer. Retrieved January 20, 2021.
  10. ^ Utroske, Deanna (March 27, 2018). "P&G launches 5 new Gillette razors to keep pace with men's grooming preferences". Cosmetics Design. Retrieved January 20, 2021.
  11. ^ Tiffany, Kaitlyn (2018-12-11). "The absurd quest to make the "best" razor". Vox. Retrieved 2019-09-18.
  12. ^ Brunsman, Barrett. "P&G upgrades Gillette razor for first time in nearly a decade". Cincinnati Business Courier. Retrieved 2019-09-18.
  13. ^ Day, Eliza. "10 Best Razors for Men Who Like a Close Shave". The Trend Spotter. Retrieved January 7, 2021.
  14. ^ Koeppel, Dan; Redman, Justin (December 21, 2020). "The Best Men's Razors (for Any Face)". The New York Times. Retrieved January 7, 2021.
  15. ^ Null, Christopher (October 23, 2007). "Gillette Fusion Power Phantom". Wired. Retrieved January 21, 2021.
  16. ^ "Gillette Fusion Power Phantom". Thrillist. February 16, 2007. Retrieved January 21, 2021.
  17. ^ "Gillette Ups the Razor Ante. Again". Boston.com. April 29, 2014. Retrieved January 7, 2021.
  18. ^ Gilbert, Sarah. "Did Gillette's Fusion ad doom Tiger Woods?". AOL. Retrieved January 21, 2021.
  19. ^ Byron, Ellen (February 12, 2010). "P&G Razor Launches in Recession's Shadow". The Wall Street Journal. Retrieved January 21, 2021.
  20. ^ "Gillette Unveils Newest Members of Its Gillette Young Guns Lineup" (Press release). Gillette. February 11, 2008. Archived from the original on September 7, 2012. Retrieved February 15, 2008.
  21. ^ Eisen, Sara (2014-05-01). "Gillette hopes for a swivel in sales from new razor". CNBC. Retrieved 2019-10-23.
  22. ^ "Gillette's New Razor Is Everything That's Wrong With American Innovation". Intelligencer. Retrieved 2019-10-23.
  23. ^ Foster, Megan (June 3, 2020). "The best 22 grooming gifts for dad". NBC News. Retrieved May 5, 2021.
  24. ^ Kumar, Naveen (May 5, 2021). "18 beard grooming products that experts love". CNN. Retrieved May 5, 2021.
  25. ^ Malin, Zoe (April 5, 2021). "New & Notable: Latest products from Nike, Old Navy and more". NBC News. Retrieved May 5, 2021.

Three recent innovations, the Gillette TREO, SkinGuard and Heated Razor are referenced in the Procter & Gamble acquisition to present section. We would recommend moving these to the current products section for consistency. Let us know if you agree.

I realize editors will continue to make changes to this list over time, but for now, if you believe this is an improvement over the existing content would you be willing to update the article on my behalf? I really appreciate guidance for bringing this page more up to date and making it more compliant from a Wikipedia perspective. Thanks again! EA.Ketchum (talk) 20:31, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have made the changes suggested and preserved the images in a gallery.
Was it intentional to group the Blue line into the Gillette Sensor paragraph? They seem to be different products. ~Anachronist (talk) 22:02, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for any confusion! You are correct -- the Blue line should be separate from Sensor. Do you mind adjusting? Thanks for catching the error. EA.Ketchum (talk) 18:08, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Done. ~Anachronist (talk) 17:11, 17 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pubic Hair Controversy in TV Advertising

Are there any notable sources that would allow this to be added to the current article. I just started seeing these advertisements where a woman was shaving her pubic hair using Venus on television and they are not appropriate for daytime TV. They are explicit and I'm sure I'm not the only one 2601:642:4400:9F00:9C67:3EFA:A717:7C47 (talk) 01:33, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Well, I agree that pushing young women to shave their body hair to fit in with this prude conservative body normativity is worng--is that what you meant? And are you in the US? Because in 25 years in the US I have not yet seen an explicit advertisement. Are you saying that the vulva was in plain sight? Drmies (talk) 01:37, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • You mean this one? This one is kind of like a manual. This one is the most recent--but it's hardly explicit, given that it's like a cartoon--though the springer characters are kind of funny. Drmies (talk) 01:42, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It could be paired with the new women's hygiene product ads that use pink coloured analog for bodily fluids instead of blue, making it look very much like the blood it is depicting. Advertisers have no shame. But if you try and introduce a discussino of it into WP you will get slapped for "unreliable sources".2604:3D09:C77:4E00:F545:4DAD:891E:D166 (talk) 16:43, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
And justifiably so. Any discussion of such a topic needs to be covered in reliable sources. Ads are not helpful if there is no discussion in reliable sources to be found. We don't engage in original research or synthesis of sources to form conclusions here. ~Anachronist (talk) 17:36, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Citation 161 linkrot (In science)

Whole section should maybe go, but the link currently being used as an archival backup point is bad. https://web.archive.org/web/20201027162852/https://www.wired.com/2011/12/st-3st-lasers/ appears to work still. 136.34.181.216 (talk) 04:15, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent brand, 10 on 10

It's do original. 119.30.38.102 (talk) 19:28, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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