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NPP Awards for 2023

The New Page Patroller's Barnstar

For over 100 article reviews during 2023. Well done! Keep up the good work and thank you! Dr vulpes (Talk) 02:43, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

January 2024 NPP backlog drive – Points award

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
This award is given in recognition to Netherzone for collecting at least 25 points during the January 2024 NPP backlog drive. Your contributions played a part in the 16,070 reviews completed during the drive. Thank you so much for taking part and contributing to help reduce the backlog! Hey man im josh (talk) 22:39, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]


"Geothermal resources" maps

Geothermal Energy in the Western United States (1978) from USGS doi:10.3133/cir790

Just FYI I found that the NOAA produced maps of "geothermal resources" to go with that 1980 report we use a lot. The good people of University of Nevada Reno scanned them and I grabbed them all and put them here:

Commons:Category:Maps of geothermal resources of the United States

I think it includes all the states in the continental U.S. north and west of Texas, except possibly South Dakota (which may well be out there somewhere). Most are in PDF format but I think can convert to jpg and/or png if need be, just let me know which ones.

I think/hope they should be citable sources if they have any info that isn't already in the report; I cited the California one in one place already as <ref name="CAgeothermmap-1980">{{Cite map |last1=Higgins |first1=Chris T. |last2=Therberge |last3=Ikelman |first2=Albert E. Jr. |first3=Joy A. |title=Geothermal Resources of California |url=https://data.nbmg.unr.edu/public/Geothermal/GreyLiterature/GeothermalResources_California_1980_R.pdf |date=1980 |publisher=California Department of Mines and Geology |publication-place=Sacramento |others=NOAA National Geophysical Center}}</ref>

I can't really figure out the name of the original report or repository these came from so just leaning on the unr.edu for now. Cheers, jengod (talk) 04:48, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Jengod, thanks for your note. How wonderful that you uploaded scans of the maps! I've got a copy of the paper maps from along with the 1980 hardcopy of the report Thermal springs list for the United States (1980) By Berry, George W. ; Grim, P. J. (Paul J.) ; Ikelman, Joy A.
Because I travel alot and live between two states in two different regions of the country, I seldom travel with the paper copies, instead I use a pdf. You can download the entire .pdf of the book here: [1] but it doesn't include the maps. Thanks again for uploading this excellent resource for hot springs! Netherzone (talk) 16:09, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I just took a moment to look on Commons, and those are different than the maps than the ones I have. This is a superb new resource, Jen. Thanks again. Netherzone (talk) 16:19, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

May music

story · music · places

On the bicentenary of Beethoven's Ninth Symphony, I remember our recent uplifting choral concert in pictures, on my user page and in my concerts (leading to the two at the church's article). The closest was in the paper. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:19, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Today is the Feast of the Ascension for which Bach composed his oratorio, - perhaps watch a bit how the closing movement was performed in Bach's church. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:58, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Magdalena Hinterdobler is on the Main page today, together with an opera that reviewers deemed not interesting and too obscure for our general readers. The soprano thought differently, - listen and see. - Also on the Main page: a TFA by sadly missed Vami_IV. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:30, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

yesterday's story remembered an oratorio world premiere I was in, conducted by the composer - how are you? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:17, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I heard lovely chamber music today, and the DYK mentions "profoundly human" singing (that you can watch), connected to a place where we'll sing in September --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:25, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I liked seeing Erschallet, ihr Lieder on the Main page today, 310 years after the first performance! We sang it in 2000. Today's program was easier but also spirited. I found a nice video of "I will sing with the spirit", with nature photography, - enjoy. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:34, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for improving articles in May, even from elsewhere! - Today's story mentions a concert I loved to hear and a piece I loved to sing in choir, 150 years old OTD. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:14, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Gerda, thank you, as always, for keeping in touch and sharing your stories, creations, nature, travels and meals. I always appreciate hearing from you. Netherzone (talk) 15:33, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Chalybeate spring below Cascada de los Colores, La Palma Levada dos Tornos, Madeira, water in sun
Also Gerda, just wanted you to know I added one of your images to the articles, Chalybeate and to Spring (hydrology). It's a beautiful image of a chalybeate spring (high iron mineral content in the water). And also added your image of to Levada (Madeira). I noticed that English Wikipedia is lacking in articles on the Levadas of Portugal. Netherzone (talk) 16:21, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's lovely, - never heard Chalybeate, so even more thanks! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:40, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Doncram's drafts

Hello, Netherzone,

I hope you are well. I just postponed deleting a lot of drafts created by Doncram, as I always do when I come across them in my CSD G13 patrolling. I noticed that you had edited many of them, marking them as "promising drafts".

My question for you is do you know whether there are editors currently working on finishing up these unfinished drafts? I'm happy to postpone deleting them now but I'm thinking about in another six months, November 2024 or 2025. If there aren't editors spending time taking care of projects that were unfinished when he passed, I question indefinitely postponing their deletion. I considered posting this message on his User talk page but I don't know if many of his fellow editors have that page still Watchlisted and I thought directing my question to an individual was more likely to get a response. Or is there an active WikiProject which would be a suitable place to inquire? Thanks for any information or thoughts you can offer. Take care. Liz Read! Talk! 20:38, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Liz, thank you for reaching out. I saw that you made a blank edit to Draft:David Back Log House and Farm earlier today to save it from deletion, so I started to make some improvements and added it to my To Do list in my sandbox. It's on the NRHP, and it's a notable site. I saw on my watchlist some other drafts marked as promising.
Not long after Doncram passed, there was a group of us working on improving his unfinished drafts and moving some of these to article space, including @Star Mississippi and others (see User talk:Doncram#User subpages to complete.
I guess I got a little gun shy about moving deceased editors drafts to article space after George Ho got upset about it, when I and others were saving DGG's drafts from deletion after he died. It seems George felt that I was trying to bypass the reviewers at AfC (I was not), I was simply trying to help out as I had done after Possibly died.
I have autopatrolled rights, so I thought it was OK. See [[2]] It's been years since I've used AfC. I've created over 200 articles and none of them have been deleted. There is a huge backlog at AfC and NPP.
Liz, in your opinion is it OK for me to improve Doncram's drafts based on reliable sources and move them directly to article space? I have a clear understanding of Wiki-notability criteria. Thanks, I look forward to hearing your thoughts. Netherzone (talk) 21:44, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK, Liz, I think this one is good to go. Draft:David Back Log House and Farm Any objections to my moving it to article space? Netherzone (talk) 23:11, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This one is ready to go as well. Really an interesting historical road, enjoyed researching it. Draft:Grant Road (Los Alamos, New Mexico). Netherzone (talk) 17:11, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the ping. I just submitted one of Possibly's because I wasn't sure, but think there's a case for N:ARTIST. I saw a handful of Doncram's cross my watchlist when catching up. I took a stab at Draft:James Coolidge Octagon Cobblestone House, which still needs significant work, but I have no idea how to tackle something like Draft:Preserved locomotives in the United States\Travel Town ones to be merged (@Trainsandotherthings any suggestions?) NZ, I'll look at the ones you linked, but in general I think you're fine to proceed as you would any other draft. Star Mississippi 01:48, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I left you a message on the cobblestone house draft's talk page. I could read the source, but there was only one sentence about it.
I'll move the two drafts this evening. Am now working on Draft:Rice, Arizona - I found a good source that has a lot of interesting historical facts about Rice. The town went thru a few name changes so at first I thought it should be redirected to San Carlos, Arizona however if I find another in-depth source I think it will pass notability. Netherzone (talk) 02:23, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ha! You are quick on the keyboard! I saw that you just submitted the Grant Road and the David Back Log House drafts. Thanks! Netherzone (talk) 02:24, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I think we E/Ced on one of them.
Grant Road credit probably could have gone to you. I was on auto given them to Doncram. Thanks for the help on Cobblestone. That one is going to be a challenge but I think we can clean it up to a good little stub. Ping me if you need anything on Rice, happy to help. Star Mississippi 02:33, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Star Mississippi, I just resubmitted Draft:Rice, Arizona, it had been declined once. I made significant improvements and also found a lot of historical photos of Rice when it was an active settlement. I think it passes notability for a former settlement based on the current sourcing. When you find a moment, could you please have a look? Netherzone (talk) 16:51, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Someone got to it while I was offline, or I'd have accepted as well. Star Mississippi 12:51, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for thinking of me. I'm not a fan of giant locomotive lists and don't think they are encyclopedic. The area of preserved locomotives, specifically steam locomotives, attracts a high proportion of disruptive editors (usually children, or people who act like children anyway). I try to steer clear and have removed almost all such articles from my watchlist. Getting kind of tired of fighting sockmasters in this area, just put this one away last month and currently fighting another (getting eyes at SPI these days is near impossible, sadly).
Back when this specific draft was discussed, I made the point (which I still stand by) that trying to list every single preserved locomotive in the United States within a single article would be impossible and futile, as the list could easily expand to thousands of entries. I also believe there is zero reason to even have such a list, as it can be fully handled by categories (e.g. Category:Preserved steam locomotives of the United States, which already exists along with subcats). Any notable locomotives will have their own article within the category, defeating the purpose of the list. The list would just be a duplication of information and one more page added to our maintenance backlogs (it would forever attract IPs adding unsourced crap and original research). Those are my thoughts. Someone else may feel differently, of course. You could try WT:TRAINS and see if anyone is interested. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 17:22, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just sent this Doncram draft to AfC: Draft:EM Ranch. A ranch complex with a hydrothermal spring attached! Netherzone (talk) 01:16, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That makes total sense. Thanks for the input and the history @Trainsandotherthings Will ask at WT:TRAINS if I get to it, but may also just let it go to G13 the next time. There are enough admins around who are willing to restore his drafts - including me - if someone makes a case for why it's needed and is willing to caretake it. And ugh yes on SPI. Makes me wish I had the tech skills to apply as clerk or CU Star Mississippi 12:53, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Star Mississippi, I just sent this to AfC: Draft:Empson Cannery. Netherzone (talk) 18:47, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And just finished up Draft:Miner's Hat, will now send to AfC. Netherzone (talk) 19:44, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Done
All my classing as start means is > stub, so if you think they should be higher, feel free to re-assess. This has never been an area I was involved with. Star Mississippi 00:37, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! Start seems about right to me also. Netherzone (talk) 00:53, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just sent this Doncram draft to AfC. Draft:McCutchen Theatre Will try to do another later today. Netherzone (talk) 16:30, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And this draft can be deleted: Draft:College Hill Historic District (Pullman, Washington) - I discovered there already was a stub article in mainspace so I moved the new improvements over to that article College Hill Historic District (Pullman, Washington). Netherzone (talk) 17:58, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi! I think (but may well be wrong) that we need to keep it for attribution. If I'm wrong, it can be deleted and I'm happy to G7 it, but in the interim I redirected it. Star Mississippi 18:05, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I wrote the vast majority of the article, the original Doncram draft was just a few sentences and the infobox. So I think it's OK to either redirect or delete the draft, since I mentioned Doncram (so he would be credited) in my edit summary when I moved over the content that I had written...so we both are attributed to the improvements to the existing article. But please do whatever you think is best! Netherzone (talk) 18:57, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I just submitted this Doncram draft to AfC: Draft:Grimes House and Mill Complex Netherzone (talk) 14:29, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do they have mail on your teleportation device?

Hello, Netherzone. Please check your email; you've got mail!
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No rush at all, and no answer needed. Star Mississippi 02:46, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tin can telephone (1882)
There's actually pretty good telecommunications here. Sent a message back at 'cha. Netherzone (talk) 13:25, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Tin can phones and string "stilts". I miss those days, although mine weren't quite that old.
Got yours and will answer today or tomorrow. Star Mississippi 13:46, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ever added a third string and can for a party line? --ARoseWolf 14:19, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 16 May 2024

Thanks so much for your help with the Articles on Matsubata Nobuo.

hope you can help me again i nthe future! i have a long list of Japanese textiles artists who im trying to compile information and publish articles on. once i fill out Matsubara a bit more i want towrite about 柳 晋哉 who is also prominent weaver from the yanagi family (created mingei(folkart) movement) Markmcnbowe97 (talk) 03:36, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for reaching out. Good luck with your future projects on Japanese textile artists. I look forward to reading them! Don't hesitate to contact me if you have any questions. Netherzone (talk) 03:42, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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