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A fact from Democratic Yemeni Union of Peasants appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 2 June 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that in 1978 the chairman of the Democratic Yemeni Union of Peasants was arrested after the South Yemeni government was taken over by Abdul Fattah Ismail?

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 17:59, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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October 7, 1986 congress of the Democratic Yemeni Union of Peasants

... that the role of the Democratic Yemeni Union of Peasants (1986 congress pictured) was enshrined in the 1978 Constitution of South Yemen? Source: Albert P. Blaustein, Gisbert H. Flanz. Constitutions of the Countries of the World: Yemen. Oceana Publications, 1986. p. 21
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Moved to mainspace by Soman (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 377 past nominations.

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Soman (talk) 15:45, 14 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Comment. Hi User:Soman - thanks for your work on the article. Any idea about the ultimate fate of the organisation – did it last until Yemeni unification in 1990? ITBF (talk) 10:42, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I can't find anything definitive, I would have presumed its history ended with unification in 1990. Unlike youth organization and trade unions that continued post unification, it appears that Afid was comparatively weaker and would not have endured without state patronage. But looking here https://www.adengad.net/news/693324 and https://www.addalinews.com/Print/16352 there are mentions of a Peasants Union in the Southern movement... unsure if there is any organizational connection. For the purpose of this article I think we can end the article history with 1990 for now, though. --Soman (talk) 11:10, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - Looking at https://www.yafa.news/archives/9941 , it seems there is no direct link between Afid 1976-1990 and the present-day Union of Southern Peasants. --Soman (talk) 11:14, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New reviewer needed. Z1720 (talk) 13:58, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Soman: I've given this a review. I'm ready to pass this, but I'm blah on the hook. Do you have any others? Also, you need to anser the question about when it closed, or if it still exists. --evrik ^(talk) 18:16, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I'd say that the connection between the national constitution and a civil society organization is the most hookworthy factoid here. The only other option I see would the arrest of the chairman in 1978 or the cooperation agreements with East Germany. As per the closure of the organization, I don't have any source of an exact date of disbanding and it is quite likely that there was no official or formalized disbanding. When South Yemen ceased to exist, presumably the organization went quietly defunct. --Soman (talk) 10:43, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - Can you propose some alt hooks? Also work into the piece that, "it is quite likely that there was no official or formalized disbanding. When South Yemen ceased to exist, presumably the organization went quietly defunct." --evrik ^(talk) 15:30, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    - I can't add speculation in the article mainspace, without any reference. I think it is clear from context that the organization ceased to function at some point around Yemeni unification, but the reader will have to connect the dots. --Soman (talk) 22:19, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      - The hook is bleh, and the article is incomplete without something that says how the group ended. Would you like another reviewer? --evrik ^(talk) 02:27, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This hasn't moved in nine days, and I think evrik's position on the hook is within bounds for reviewer's discretion. Soman, would you have a way to improve the current suggestion, or would you like to try something else? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 19:18, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't really see the need for an alt hook, but here is one:

ALT1 - "... that in 1978 the chairman of the Democratic Yemeni Union of Peasants was arrested after the South Yemen government was taken over by Abdul Fattah Ismail?"

I note that there has still not been any assessment of any of the DYK criteria, I'd invite new reviewers. --Soman (talk) 20:45, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

- - evrik said they did a full review a while back, although I don't think they spelled it out. Is this good to go, evrik? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 21:55, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New enough, long enough, QPQ done. I'm approving Alt1. --evrik ^(talk) 02:56, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Soman and Evrik: As written, this would deserve {{too many sections}}, and another sentence in the lead wouldn't go amiss. Can these short sections be knocked together?--Laun chba ller 10:37, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Launchballer: I've never heard that one before. Okay, I reorganized it and removed a section. --evrik ^(talk) 16:12, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

--evrik ^(talk) 16:12, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fine by me.--Laun chba ller 16:15, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]