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Frequently asked questions

These following questions have been addressed repeatedly (as documented here):

"Wii" vs. "Nintendo Wii"?

The first and most frequently asked question -- and the official trademark is just "Wii". See the Talk archives (pages 6 through 10) and the separately archived survey if you need the details.

"Wii" vs. "The Wii"?

Obviously, the official trademark is not The Wii™ but Wii™. People generally call the console "the Wii" (like a common noun), while Nintendo prefers to phrase it as just "Wii" (like a name) to utilize its similarity to we (e.g. "Wii will change gaming forever"). A discussion on the subject can be found in Archive 18.

"Wee" (as in urine)?

Multiple discussions on the subject have failed to achieve a consensus for or against including a reference to urine. However, please refrain from adding any such reference to the article. If you wish to bring this topic up on the talk page, please first read past discussions on the subject found in Archive 22 and Archive 23.

Wii Remote strap problems?

Information on Wii Remote strap failures and Nintendo's replacement offer are summarized in the article. Further details are documented in the Wii Remote article. Discussion on the subject can be found in Archive 21.


Vandalism

How come we're not locking this page? It's been vandalized too many times within the last week or so. It's annoying to see the entire page replaced with vulgar language. FyreNWater 01:34, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I filed a RFP, seems like we can't unprotect the page without it being vandalized almost right away. TJ Spyke 01:42, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I agree to lock this, but I'm too noobish to understand how to. Or restore stuff from vandalism. Anyone care to post some newbie guide for me? Am00nz0r5 01:11, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The page likely won't get protected since admins don't like protecting pages that are "Today's Featured Article". The page was semi-protected for a long time, but was unprotected in preparation for this. See WP:Vandalism for strategies on fighting vandalism. TJ Spyke 01:21, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
We can't lock it right now, it's the Article of the Day. --LuigiManiac 01:20, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think there should be a link to the Wii coverage at xLeague.tv as it has coverage from the United Kingdom launch of the Wii. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryoga3099 (talk • contribs)

This is something that should be discussed at Wii launch, it doesn't belong in the main Wii article. TJ Spyke 17:03, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that it shouldn't be in the Wii article. It is already in the Wii launch article. Just64helpin 17:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think that should be included a link to http://wadooa.com/doku.php/consola_wii its a LatinAmerican wikipage that have lots of interesting topics in spanish, the link could be in external as:

Wii Comunity in spanish or somethink like that. see you :) Risoto2000 14:58, 13 April 2007 (UTC)risoto2000[reply]

Weight loss

Reuters article on weight loss from playing the Wii [1] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by VTNC (talk • contribs) 07:07, 7 April 2007 (UTC).[reply]

What is the point in posting this? Just64helpin 15:38, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The very nature of the console is more physically demanding than conventional game consoles, so it has some basis as proof that the console really is like exercise JayKeaton 10:19, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
So... Are you suggesting that the information be added to the Wii article? Just64helpin 18:20, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I don't understand the confusion. Isn't that the implication of presenting a source related to the subject on its talk page? Leebo T/C 15:59, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
But... isn't there a need for, say, "reliability" here? A single person's experience can not be considered indicative of any trend. Now, if you have a study proving the connection, then that could be different. But a fluff piece about a single person's statement? That's just too unreliable to include. Bladestorm 16:15, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I saw on that American MSNBC Today Show, a manager of a gym said he has started Wii fitness classes. It's amazing, we even get Letterman here in Australia JayKeaton 15:29, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Picture of Wii, box

Can we get a new picture of the box? The lighting isn't that great in the shot, and it is hard to distinguish the features of the box. Thanks --ASDFGHJKL=Greatest Person Ever+Coolest Person Ever 00:13, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure which picture you're looking at. The picture of the Wii boxes shows all but the top and bottom sides, and its clear that there are pictures of the Wii, Wii Remote, and a person holding the Wii Remote. Not much more detail is needed. Sure, it's a little dim and there's a bit of glare, but the features are still distinguishable.--the ninth bright shiner talk 21:56, 13 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I think the shot of the Wii with the side flap open needs a retake moreso. There's a fair amount of glare, and the overall lighting is pretty bad. Slydevil 00:18, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that the picture with the side flap open could be better. But I think all the other pictures are just fine. Bladestorm 00:34, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I replaced the side flap photo with one that has less glare, though the lighting is the same. Just64helpin 15:40, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that the box picture could be better. It looks like it could be a picture from the camera of a mobile phone. Do we even need a picture of the box there? That section doesn't mention the box. Perhaps a picture of a Wii console next to a DVD case to go along with the comparison of the size of a Wii to DVD cases, or maybe it should contain a photo of Wii console next to a ruler as recommended by Template:NoCoins. Jecowa 00:16, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sales information

Regarding this revert, I want to point two things:

  1. We are not about truth, but verifiability: The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth. "Verifiable" in this context means that any reader should be able to check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source. Next Generation is a reliable source, and any reader is able to verify that they are giving estimates that match the ones appearing here.
  2. We do not rely on Media Create, Chart Trak, Famitsu and NPD only. Per the previous point, any reliable source giving numbers is good enough for our verifiability threshold.
  3. Even those companies we so much cherish as gamers do estimates. Yes, even NPD.

Therefore, I believe the given reference is well placed. -- ReyBrujo 05:37, 13 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I replied on your talk page, but will do a brief point here. That site estimated the numbers. not reporting them as truth. The NPD Group does not "estimate" sales, they actually do track them (they track about 80% of total games sales, they do extrapolate the remaining 20% for retailers that aren't tracked by them). These numbers from Next Generation aren't erifiable because they even say they are just estimates. The actual North American numbers for the March period (March 4-April 7) will be released next Thursday at about 4:30PM EST and are reliable numbers. TJ Spyke 05:47, 13 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Verifiable means that, according to our definition which I previously added, "any reader should be able to check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source". That is all we need: that users can check that a reliable source has cited that amount before us. According to your own definition, NPD data is not verifiable because they state the sales information are also estimations (tracking 80% of total games, extrapolating 20%). We don't question data, we question sources. And, for all means, Next Generation is a reliable source. Feel free to ask at WP:V or WP:RS whether this information can be used. -- ReyBrujo 12:01, 13 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I dissagree, not with the placement, but ReyBrujo's statements. How can an encyclopedia not be about truth? Isn't truth verifiable? Because not everything is true that is verifiable. Ex: Anna Nicole Smith is dead. Truth,verifiable. However, what if false info is released that she died of gunshot wounds to the head; it is passed off as truth, then major sources take it and report it. That passes verifiability tests, and its posted, but it is false info. See what I'm getting at? We should aim for more than verifiable, we should aim for truth. Quatreryukami 15:27, 13 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That puts us in a tight situation: to obtain the truth, we need to judge. That is why encyclopedias only compile data already available in other sources. If we aim at truth, we must be able to determine whether the data is true or not, which includes original research. For a fact like "Anna Nicole Smith is dead", it is trivial, because the reliable sources agree. But for a statement like "Iraq is currently in a worse situation than it was with Saddam Hussein" it is not as easy. Please check Wikipedia:Verifiability: we aim at being verifiable, which is already extremely hard (if not, just browse the trivia section of almost any article). -- ReyBrujo 21:48, 13 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
While I am sure their estimate is close to the real number; it is just that, an estimate. It's no more reliable than exit polls in elections. We wouldn't report the winner of an election based on exit polls, would we? We should be getting the actual numbers in about 6 days, rather than just estimates since the section is for sales data and not estimates of sales. TJ Spyke 21:59, 13 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Tell me, why you use Media Create numbers instead of Famitsu then? Aren't both reliable sources? Why do they differ? I won't revert back, I hope someday you will be able to understand the difference between reliable sources and facts, and why we care more about a verifiable information and not about truth. -- ReyBrujo 02:55, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Media Create and Famitsu both track actual sales (although they somehow vary on data), the reason we use Media Create is because they release their data a week earlier (for example, Famitsu just released sales info that MC did last week). If the section was "estimated sales", I would have no problem (of coarse, then we would have to deal with the dozens of analysts offering their different estimates. TJ Spyke 03:02, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well, of course the section is estimated sales. Media Create estimates sales, CT estimates sales, Famitsu estimates sales, NPD estimates sales... you are again not understanding the verifiability concept, which is one of the five bases of Wikipedia. Oh, well, won't waste my time anymore, at least until you read the policies. -- ReyBrujo 03:21, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Prepare for the storm

Just to give you all a heads up, this will be tomorrow's featured article of the day. This page gets a lot of vandalism as it is, I can't imagine how much will happen to it tomorrow. --LuigiManiac 00:43, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

also it's been un Semi-Protected so this page can be edited by annons also. It is usually policy no to protect the FA of the day, so no one should try requesting protection tomorrow. Just keep this page open and watch for vandalism all tomorrow. The Placebo Effect 00:47, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Speaking of tomorrows feature, I notice that this page only has one clear shot of the actual console itself. It would be good if we could add another one from a different angle or without the base or laying on its side. Particulary one that will show the blue light glowing, if at all possible JayKeaton 02:17, 17 April 2007 (UTC) The Wii finally gets what it deserves on Wikipedia.Infraredeclipse 00:23, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Feature Article today!

Though it's sort of odd to see a subject that's only been out for several months --I mean, at least other video game-related FAs could put things in a longer term context... Regardless, FTW ;-) --Bobak 00:35, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The only bad thing (and this applies to EVERY article that is "Today's Featured Article") is that vandalism shot up. Still nice to know that an article I helped work on is featured on the front page of WP. TJ Spyke 00:59, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
When I learned yesterday that this was today's featured article, I was quite surprised. I had no idea it was even a featured article! *voice of SSB announcer* CONGRATULATIONS! --LuigiManiac 01:00, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, I beat Ganon in Zelda: Ocarina of Time today (on VC)! Weird. — MalcolmUse the schwartz! 01:33, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Congradulations! --68.193.242.160 02:28, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Someone put (This is a console for faggots!) in but I removed it169.229.112.131 03:20, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, Lord... a console article being featured... let the vandalism begin.--Surfaced 03:52, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Look at the edit history, it already has. We've seen more vandalism in the last 6 hours then we had in the last month. The one bad thing about being TFA is that it had to be unprotected, allowing all these IP vandals. TJ Spyke 03:54, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That's the price you have to pay for featured status. With fame comes paparazzis and critics. =P. For The Wiin. Berserkerz Crit 08:38, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Upon viewing the article, I noticed that the intro was repeated twice. Doesn't look like something a vandal would do, but I'm surprised the FA committee missed that. Kareeser|Talk! 15:45, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Call the Rawful Lawfuls! Quatreryukami 15:46, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Selected home game consoles

The box, which is currently at the top of the references section, causes the latter to be forced into two narrow columns. Can it be moved anywhere else? -Phoenix 02:05, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not getting that problem. ONE reference spills into two lines, but all the other look the same as they did when the box wasn't there. TJ Spyke 02:09, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, yeah. I think I read about this; it's a Firefox problem. -Phoenix 02:51, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I was thinking that too. Firefox users also have problems with wrestling PPV articles. TJ Spyke 02:54, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It looks just fine in Firefox version 2.0. Jecowa 04:28, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Happens to me too. Firefox 2.0.0.3 MahangaTalk 04:47, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

'Wii' isn't Japanese?

I know that technically the Japanese for 'yes' is ii, but the name 'Wii' is supposed to invoke that sound in Japan. Here's the website: [2]. Do you think it's worth mentioning in the article? Corvokarasu 16:33, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Since when is ii 'yes' in Japanese? Hai is the Japanese word for 'yes'. You must be thinking of the word for 'no' which is iie.146.235.66.52 17:49, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not an expert, but I read somewhere that "Wii" meant "good" in Japanese. --RockMaster-talk|contribs 18:29, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

'Hai' and 'ee' mean yes. But the 'ee' is pronounced somewhat like 'ehh', not 'ii'. Also, good is indeed, colloquially "ii". Or a little more formally "yoi". Or something like that, it's been months since I last studied. But wii would be more pronounced "u-i-i", so i'm not sure where the u comes from going by that theory. 128.122.20.15 19:29, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

Considering this page is a featured artical and is on the main page shouldn't the page be locked. Rob mc 1 17:26, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Being on the main page is the reason it's not locked. --Maxamegalon2000 17:30, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry did not know that is was not locked for that reason. All i know it that this artical normally gets vandalised when not locked and with it on the main page and more taffic would also mean more vandalism. i was not impressed with the micheal wolfe edit. i was impressed however by how fast it cam off. it was removed before i got to my computer. Rob mc 1 17:49, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Just got vandalized by taking away everything and writing Fukusdff...I reverted it, I think. I went into History, went to the last good version, and hit Save. Sorry if I did something wrong. I'm rather new to editing.

List of accidents

Would it make sense to add a list of known accidents and people getting hurt?

Probably not. If you want to include such a thing, make a section mentioning that the Wii Remote is prone to be misused, and thus, cause injuries. Mention a couple incidents, maybe even point them to www.wiihaveaproblem.com. We don't need to make a comprehensive list, just make the fact known. Leave the lists to the bloggers. --RockMaster-talk|contribs 18:31, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This has been discussed before, and it was agreed that it wasn't notable. IMO, all those people are idiots since it's not that hard to hold onto the controller, even if the strap broke the person should still know how to hold the controller. TJ Spyke 21:04, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is this just me, or is this article...missing something?

I was just glancing over the article, and fixed three obvious little things that were missing. I wonder, are there another other simple mistakes lying around in the article? This was just a cursory glance, so a better eye than mine should be able to catch these things fairly easily. --RockMaster-talk|contribs 18:41, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What is the font in the Wii logo?

Just wandering, as a trivial thing Sergeant K 21:00, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that there is no font associated with the wii logo such as that there is no font associated with the Spider-Man 2 logo (see PS3) - oops! no original research allowed!. In other words, I do not think that there is one.71.168.113.79 21:05, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Then how come it shows the font under the logo on the Wii page of this site? Sergeant K 21:08, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That would be an image and not a font. Axem Titanium 22:09, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

(Semi)Protection needed!

Checking the history of the article reveals a long vandalism-revert-vandalism-revert chain, mainly from anons. Don't we need (semi)protection? --NetRolller 3D 21:11, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Been refused at WP:RPP as article on main page (tradition?). I think 24 vandalisma in 35 minutes is rather a lot, but hey... Shenme 21:13, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It's not likely to be granted. Admins don't like semi-protecting pages that are "Today's Featured Article" except as a last resort (like edit warring). There have been some IP's making good edits since it was put on the front page. For now, all we can do is give warnings to the vandals and report them if they keep it up. TJ Spyke 21:14, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well, now that it no longer on the front page, should we not reinstate it's Semiprotected status? --RockMaster-talk|contribs 01:37, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The vandalism has settled down, but you can request it if you want. TJ Spyke 01:40, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Only protect after one more day IF their is significant levels of vandalisim, no need to protect it if no one is vandalising it. The Placebo Effect 01:45, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fifth/Sixth?

The Nintendo article states that this is the sixth console. Why is it listed as the fifth here? I was contacted on the main page error report and told it had been rectified... I am gonna put it as sixth for now, please explain on here why it isn't, if it isn't. J Milburn 21:42, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Color TV Game series (there was more than 1) weren't really consoles, they were more like those Plug & Play games made by companies like JAKKS Pacific. Check the last archive for a discussion on this. TJ Spyke 21:49, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I apologise. I took an IP's word for it that it had been corrected- I took this to mean that a consensus had been reached. J Milburn 22:11, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Shameless Plug

Join the wii wiki!!!! The Placebo Effect 01:52, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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