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Gobshite

I searched for the term 'Gobshite" and Kurt Angle is the page that I get directed to. If I knew how to fix this, I would. Just a friendly reminder. (Bingo Overhill 03:26, 26 March 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Looking at the edit history of Gobshit, a user created it on March 6th as a redirect to this page. What is "Gobshite"? TJ Spyke 03:54, 26 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I heard the term in an Irish film. Apparently, it means (from urbandictionary.com) "a loud-mouthed person who talks a lot, but nothing with any value - as in shite coming out of their gob", "A word of irish origin, meaning a person who blabbers on about incredibly senseless things"...You can imagine my surprise (and, I admit, some amusement) when I was redirected to the "Kurt Angle" page through a gobshite search. (Bingo Overhill 02:11, 27 March 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Comment:I nominated the redirect for speedy deletion. -- The Hyb rid 03:59, 26 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks (Bingo Overhill 02:29, 27 March 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Daniel Puder Incident

Why was the section about the incident involving Angle and Puder removed? Puder himself already gave a statement about the incident, he admitted to locking Angle in a real submission hold, a keylock, the interview was on YouTube.

In the very same interview, he also said that, if the referees just left him and Kurt alone, he would have made Kurt tap and cry like a baby, he said that, or something like that, I'm not a tape recorder. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.76.216.69 (talk • contribs)

Angle Lock

In the game WWE SmackDown! Here Comes The Pain, Kurt Angle's finisher is "Angle Lock" and "Angle Slam". Is it really called the "Angle Lock"? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kingofgames2 (talk • contribs) 03:15, 7 May 2007 (UTC).[reply]

I have heard announcers call it that on occasion, but they almost always just say ankle lock. TJ Spyke 03:17, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

NWA Title

Despite Kurt Angle walking out of TNA Sacrifice 2007 with the NWA World Championship belt. It must be made known that this match was NOT sanctioned by the National Wrestling Alliance and TNA were stripped of the NWA titles officially hours before the PPV took place. Kurt Angle is NOT the NWA World Champion nor will he be seen as a former NWA World Champion.

Christian Cage was the last NWA World Heavyweight Champion in TNA, he since has been stripped. TNA wish to call Kurt Angle "World Heavyweight Champion" like WWE do or "TNA World Champion" but make it known he is NOT the NWA World Heavyweight Champion as the title is vacant. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 59.167.56.16 (talk) 03:29, 14 May 2007 (UTC).[reply]

That's why I reverted it. Angle is not, and never was, the NWA Champions. WHEN TNA announces their titles, i'm sure Cage will be considered the first champ (maybe Angle first). TJ Spyke 03:35, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

on the TNA website Kurt is the champ so as of now he's the champ beacuse cage offically lost it in the bout as well as sting via tap out so therefore Kurt was the only person who didn't lose that match.so he has to be the champ. Mike

The NWA officially owns the NWA World Championship, so what they say about it goes. And Kurt Angle is not an NWA World Champion. L2K 15:16, 14 May 2007 (UTC) In addition to that, TNA is calling Angle simply the World Heavyweight Champion. L2K 15:45, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How is Kurt Angle the 1st TNA champion? It's like Kurt Angle is physically has a belt, but isn't recognized for any promotion as THEIR champion yet. Worldunderblood 07:18, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kurt is not the first champion. Christian Cage is, Angle is the 2nd (and current) champion. Check WP:PW, where link to TNA's site has it. For future reference, do not post spoilers (I have removed it from your post) as that is against WP:PW policy. TJ Spyke 08:15, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Will you people please shut the fuck up and stop adding Angle as being TNA champion? He is and never has been the NWA champion, and same goes for TNA champion. They are holding a tournament to decide the first TNA champion, that's exactly the words used by Cornette. So stop adding him as TNA champion cause currently no one has held that title. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.145.114.223 (talk • contribs)

Cage was the first champion, then lost the title to Angle. TNA's own website said this. Stop removing the TNA title or it will be considered vandalism. TJ Spyke 23:06, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

On the TNA website, they say Kurt Angle was STRIPPED of the TNA World Heavyweight Title, which means he held it. At the start of IMPACT! they also had a graphic saying TNA World Heavyeight Champion, Kurt Angle. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.216.166.62 (talk • contribs)

It's not hard to understand, Cage was the first TNA Champ, Angle was the second TNA Champ, and was stripped of the title. Title is vacant, a third TNA Champ will be crownd at Slammiversary. End of story. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MC511 (talk • contribs)

Angle is a 1-time World Champ in TNA: http://www.tnawrestling.com/roster/kurtangle/index.html Christian is a 3-time World Champ in TNA: http://www.tnawrestling.com/roster/christiancage/index.html

US title

I'll refrain from edit warring (for now at least) and will certainly double-check the Invasion-era tapes I have, but the full name of that title certainly was "WCW United States Heavyweight Championship," and in any case the belt itself definitely still bore this name when it was used in the Invasion. Nosleep1234 18:20, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

But the "Heavyweight" part was dropped during the invasion. WWE did the same witht the main WCW title (just calling it the WCW World Championship). TJ Spyke 02:22, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

First Ever TNA Champion

I just watched Sacrifice again and they NEVER announced Christain as world heavyweight champion...what they did do was announce Cage as "The defending NWA Champion" which since is untrue NO title was on the line at Sacrifice, so Cage and Angle had no title wins..But the FIRST time that the TNA world title was on the line was Slammiversary...on the pre-show Jeremy Borash said " tonight the King Of The Mountain match will be to crown the FIRST EVER TNA World Champion" and also it was the first time the TNA belt was on the graphic. So basically this proves that Kurt Angle is the FIRST EVER TNA Champion. I am even watching impact right now and they are reffering to Angle as the First TNA Champion. User:71.139.46.185,June 21st 2007,9:35pm

You are wrong, they said Angle is the first "undisputed" champion. TNA considers Cage the first champion. TJ Spyke 04:48, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well they dont...if u watch slammiversary they say before the match,"Angle would love to have his first world title win tonight" and they say, "You know Cage will be looking for his 3rd world title win". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.139.1.71 (talk • contribs)

The pre-show was wrong (and not for the first time). Check out Kurt Angle's profile on TNA's website, they call him a 2 time TNA World Champions: [1] and Cage a 3 time champion: [2]. TJ Spyke 03:28, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

well here is the proff that the NWA title which wasnt even christains was on the line at sacrifice proving angle is first champion http://youtube.com/watch?v=hDK7z3Bqfdo — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.139.1.71 (talk • contribs)

If this is the Sacrifice match, i've already seen it. It was not for the NWA Title match because Cage was not the NWA Champion at the event. Cage is the first TNA Champion, even TNA says so. End of story. TJ Spyke 04:04, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

its not the match its clips...TNA PROMOTED THE SACRIFICE MATCH AS A NWA TITLE MATCH ITS 24 SECONDS LONG just please watch it— Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.139.1.71 (talk • contribs)

NWA and TNA championship conclusions

OK i am getting tired of this. Kurt Angle is the First Ever TNA Champion...people have said it..ive seen websites that say it...and TNA says it..and I say it. But i guess i will try to explain my reasoning. First off when NWA "Stripped" the titles off of Cage and 3D, it wasnt made public other than a little website...even then the NWA didnt even take the titles until AFTER Sacrifice. Thus allowing TNA to continue using the belts for that PPV. If u watch the graphic wear it shows Angle, sting and Cage...it CLEARLY says NWA World Heavyweight Championship, also the second graphic the "floating" one says NWA HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP. And finally when Borash was doing the introductions he announced cage as "The defending NWA Heavyweight Champion of the World!" therefore this match was still officially for the NWA Title, in which Angle won. therefore Angle became the NWA Champion. Then the second he got back to the locker room a NWA official took the title from Angle...thus " officially" stripping Angle of the NWA TITLE. The follwing Impact, Angle would walk out with a never before seen title...calling himself the HEAVYWEIGHT champion...not the TNA or NWA champion..just the HEAVYWEIGHT champion....but do to the controversy of the night before, cornette would say that there is no champion. The Slammiversary main event would be to crown the TNA heavyweight Champion...this would be the FIRST time that the TNA title would be advertised to be on the line....the FIRST time it would be shown on the graphic...and the FIRST time that someone(kurt angle) would be announced as a TNA champion. All throughout the night they were saying " to crown the FIRST EVER TNA champion...and they did that in Kurt Angle. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.139.1.71 (talk • contribs)

Keep this discussion on 1 talk page please. The NWA STRIPPED Cage and Team 3D of the belts before the PPV, it doesn't mean shit what TNA said during the PPV. TNA could have called Cage the WWE Champion, but that doesn't mean it would have been true. NOBODY considers Kurt Angle a NWA World Champion (not the NWA, not TNA, no title history page). TNA's official title history page says Cage was the first TNA Champion, Cage's TNA profile says he is a 3 time world champion (meaning 2 NWA and 1 TNA), Angle's profile says he is a 2 time world champion, Cornette stripped Angle of the belt (meaning Angle was champion). To sum everything up: NWA stripped TNA of the belts before Sacrifice (meaning TNA no longer had any say over who the NWA Champions were, regardless of what Jeremy Borash says), NOBODY conisders Angle a former NWA World Champion, there have been 3 official TNA World Title reigns (2 from Angle and 1 from Cage). The controversy after Sacrifice is why TNA said Angle is the first undisputed champion, not the first champion at all. TJ Spyke 06:51, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

UFC

Some may know that Dana White has been trying to get Kurt to the UFC, and has talked to the company Angle currently works for. Should it be noted on the article? There are several sources on Kurt Angle maybe fighting in MMA in the future, from both Angle and Dana at interviews.--Wikikidboy 11:35, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've read that Dana has talked to Angle, but I haven't seen it say he is trying to get Angle in. It used to be noted in the article, last fall when Angle expressed interest in MMA. Doesn't matter to me. TJ Spyke 02:37, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Haven´t seen WHAT say Angle is trying to get in? It´s Angle who has been running his mouth about it in the first place. And he dosen´t need to try, he can reach a deal with Dana whenever he wants. But then he just sticks with TNA and Dana White says he´s full of shit and Brock Lesnar says either put up or shut up. Those are the stuff that have been going on with the rumors and stuff.--Wikikidboy 14:14, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]