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References

Delisted [from Good Article status]. This article has no references. --BorgQueen 23:05, 18 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Where does the article need references? Hyacinth 22:27, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Hyacinth that the article do not need references. As an example, the parts where the popcorn is used as a christmas tree decoration may not need references, as it may be contributed by a editor that personally uses it in that way and that also knows a lot of people that also follow the same custom. There are several good, A-class and featured article that don't have many references at all, so why does this one need them? --Richman271^Hello 19:38, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Um seriously, you need to read up on wikipedia policies because you don't seem to know them at all. And if you come across a A-class or feature article that doesn't have any references, please bring it thru a review ASAP to get it delisted Nil Einne 16:32, 1 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Copyvio?

This page reads exactly like a page on the Popcorn Board's page. See:

http://www.popcorn.org/frames.cfm?main=/encyclopedia/eppop1.cfm&usernav=html

Of course who knows whether the Wiki was copied from the Popcorn Board, or vice versa. -- Massysett

I think you're refering only to the section How popcorn pops. I've removed the first paragraph of that section:

The folklore of some Native American tribes told of spirits who lived inside each kernel of popcorn. The spirits were quiet and content to live on their own -- but grew angry if their houses were heated. The hotter their homes became, the angrier they'd get -- shaking the kernels until the heat was too much. Finally they would burst out of their homes and into the air as a disgruntled puff of steam to find another kernel home.

because of the possibility of copyright violation, because I have doubts about its truth and verifiability, and because I find it vaguely offensive. I would prefer not to replace the content until we can find a credible reference that mentions at least which tribes told of this.

I've also rewritten the rest of that section.

Regards, Pekinensis 16:01, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Facts section

Is it really a good idea to have a "facts" section in an article like this? Is the rest of the article not fact? The distinction gives an appearance of indicating so.

well, a "facts" section is usually used for a bulleted list of short, interesting facts. the title does seem kinda silly when one thinks about it, but most people wouldn't interpret it as meaning the rest of the article is not fact. -- Vystrix Nexoth 03:26, Dec 16, 2004 (UTC)

Photo

I took a photo of popcorn that may be better, but I'd rather not add it in myself. It is at Image:Popcorn.jpg. Thanks.--Logicaldisaster 04:16, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC) Not to mention the current photo might be copyvio... --Logicaldisaster 04:55, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Nutritions

'Popcorn is naturally very nutritious as it is high in fiber, low in calories, contains no sodium, and is sugar and fat free.' How can this be described as naturally very nutritious? Fibre contains no nutrition. Could eating cardboard be described as nutritious? JC 4 Sep 06

How come 0g fat = 1% of daily value?

Rounding error. If we increase the serving size to 100g, then 4g fat = 6% of daily value. — Pekinensis 21:37, 21 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Popcorn health

Is popcorn health food or junk food?

This would be good to address in the article. As you can see from the nutritional information in the article, plain air-popped popcorn is quite healthy, because it has some fiber, a minimal amount of fat, and is very low in calories per serving (mainly due to its low density--it is filling without eating too much of it). However, microwave popcorn, or especially movie theater popcorn tends to have a huge amount of salt and oil, often unhealthy palm oil, meaning that it is fatty, high calorie, and high sodium. Most popcorn is consumed in this form, however plain old home air-popped popcorn is a healthy snack. NTK 23:55, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

You have to be careful about introducing POV, though. While some doctors and dietitians would have us believe fatty foods, high calorie foods, and high sodium foods are unhealthy, others disagree about one or more of those categories. Others would say popcorn is unhealthy because of its high carbohydrate content. --Angr/_comhrá 17:42, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Sugarry popcorn?

Is sugarry popcorn really that popular in Europe? I'm European, and I've tried sugarry popcorn once, and found it repulsive. I like salty popcorn much more. — JIP | Talk 17:48, 19 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'm originally from Illinois - where it is the state snack - and I find sugared popcorn repulsive too. That doesn't mean that other people don't like it here in the UK though - at all the movie theatres I've been to it's eaither exceedingly salty or sugared. Never seen buttered over here, but you can get microwave buttered w/ salt, salted and 'sweet'.194.75.129.2 23:26, 21 January 2006 (UTC)Robovski[reply]

Flint Corn

It seems that the early colonists did not eat popcorn for breakfast, but flint corn - see http://www.plimoth.org/learn/history/myth/nopopcorn.asp Alcinoe

What about

Popcorn exploding in birds' stomachs, and the like? -Tim Rhymeless (Er...let's shimmy) 06:07, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Malarkey. There are all kinds of "_____ will explode in a bird's stomach" myths, varying from rice to antacid to whatever you could imagine. Ralphael 21:13, 4 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Colonist's "Loved" popcorn so much? Conjecture?

I remember an earlier version of this page didn't read "Apparently, early North American colonists loved popcorn so much, that they actually served it for breakfast with sugar and cream. This represents the first puffed breakfast cereal."

It only noted that colonial wives served popcorn with sugar and cream without the "loved popcorn so much" sentiment and "the first puffed breakfast cereal" line. Are there any citations for this? I'd be wary of saying they loved popcorn so much they ate it as cereal. Perhaps it was because it was their cereal crop and arose from neccessity. Earlier versions of this article didn't express any of this.

68.147.253.67 08:34, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sugar & Vinegar?

Okay, I've seen all manner of flavors added to popcorn over the years but that's a new one to me. Just where in North America is this done on a regular basis? No one that I have asked (and I work with people from all over the US and Canada) has ever heard of sugar & vinegar flavoring added to popcorn. Hatcat 20:56, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm with you. I've never heard of that ever in my whole life and I'm from North America. I added a citation needed to the end of that sentence. MontySpurling 02:00, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know of any food flavored with sugar and vinegar; does anyone know of such?

It sounds good, but it's certainly not a "popular flavoring", at least in the coastal United States. I'm going to change it to "some like" or something to that effect, until somebody comes up with a source or opts to be bolder and remove it altogether. Junjk 71.233.249.3 19:16, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, it already said "In the United States it is sometimes served with sugar and vinegar" so I just went ahead and took it out. Junjk

Vinegar is sometimes used to make sweet and sour so I guess you could say sweet & sour food is flavoured with sugar and vinegar. These aren't the only components of the flavourings tho (and it would be more accurate to call it something like sweet & sour). As for the actual popcorn issue, I suspect someone got confused. Salt and vinegar are a popular flavouring, at least for potato chips Nil Einne 16:28, 1 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Trivia - west and east

Popcorn has been served in cinemas since 1912: in the West, it is traditionally served salted; in the East, sweet or salted is equally preferred.

This doesn't make clear what is meant by "West" and "East". Does it mean "the Western world" versus "the Middle East and Orient", or something more local such as the Western United States versus the Eastern United States? 217.155.20.163 23:38, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Im pretty sure it meant the western world (america) and the eastern world because it was talking about the entire world in the article. 66.203.58.143

But the rest of the trivia section refers nearly completely to America. --Tewy 20:44, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think it means west siiiiddddeeee —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.225.196.25 (talk) 19:51, 3 May 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Image of popcorn maker

I uploaded a photo of my popcorn maker today, but I left the licence tag blank and got an automated notice from a bot on my discussion page. As suggested by the bot, I asked for help at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Media_copyright_questions

I am trying now to find the instructions for adding a photo to a page. I think I came across them when I was uploading the photo, but can't find them now. In any case, it might be wrong to add the photo to the page if I don't have the correct tag on it. Also, I don't know what others think of having the photo in the article. I wouldn't want to force it (just because it's mine!) if others think there are already enough images, although I personally think that this article needs more information about making popcorn - perhaps a whole section? I know there's a section called "how popcorn pops", but it doesn't say, for example, that some people make it in a saucepan with oil, or that small, inexpensive machines can be purchased. I have also discovered that there is an article called "popcorn maker". Perhaps, if people don't think my photo is right for this article, it could go there, once somebody has helped me to choose the right tag? ElinorD 00:22, 25 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! As far as the right tag goes, since you took the image yourself, you can just tag it with {{gfdl-self}} to release it under the same license that all your textual Wikipedia contributions are (automatically) released under. I agree with you that the article needs information like that. I'll go ahead and add your picture to the article for now. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 00:29, 25 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Bunchofgrapes. Somebody at the Media copyright questions page told me which tag to use for public domain, and said to go back to the page if I wanted to use a free licence, and they'd help me to choose the right one. So I released it into the public domain, as that seemed less complicated. Also, I've added the image to the article "Popcorn maker". I looked at the code inside the edit box for this article, and then copied exactly what you had done. ElinorD 01:05, 25 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

popcorn

what is popcorn made of ? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.80.117.251 (talk) 16:31, 25 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

magic. it's made of magic. Softlord 19:00, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Industrial uses?

From what I understand, popcorn used to be used as a packing material before styrofoam and bubble-wrap. Does anyone have a reference to that? Identity0 22:44, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Easily possible I guess but there are styrofoam things that partially resemble popcorn called popcorn. Are you sure you're not getting confused for this reason? Nil Einne 16:24, 1 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Health section/globalise

The following paragraph in particular

Healthy varieties of pre-made popcorn are commercially available and can typically be found in grocery stores and food shops. The product's nutritional facts should be checked carefully, as different brands may contain different amounts of sodium and fat. Transaturated fatty acids, or trans fats, are "popping" up quite often in most commercial brands of microwave popcorn, and are usually found between 4 - 8 grams per bag, to give a "unique" flavor. However, the Orville Redenbacher and Act II brands do not use hydrogenated oils.

seems to predominantly refer to a US or at least Western view. I believe airpopped, unsweatened? unsalted? popcorn is actually a fairly common thing in Korea for example. 'Typically found' needs to be clarified. Typically found where? Probably not in Iraq for example. Also It also refers to 2 specific brands which AFAIK are American and are proabbly not be available in most countries. Also, not really to do with the US per se but are trans fats really added to give pop corn a unique flavour? Or are they just a byproduct of the processing and oils used? Nil Einne 16:21, 1 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protection

Over the past 7 days, this article was vandalized 21 times. How about requesting Semi-protection on Wikipedia:Requests for page protection? Han-Kwang 08:36, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure that an admin would think that 21 vandalisms in 7 days would justify a semiprotection. I agree it's being vandalised a lot, and I have no objection to semiprotection, but it would have to be requested at WP:RFPP. ElinorD (talk) 20:23, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I placed a request, but since you seem to be the most active reverter I thought I'd ask first. We'll see. The page history looks pretty ugly, almost nothing but vandalism and reverts and it has been like that for months. Han-Kwang 21:16, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Update: declined, not enough activity. You were right. Han-Kwang 21:53, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I suppose, just let's keep an eye on the article, then. ElinorD (talk) 21:54, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I will take this one off my watchlist. Good luck. Maybe one day the Wikipedia community will realize that established editors can actually add content rather than spending most of their editing time reverting. Han-Kwang 21:59, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, good luck to you, too. I'll keep it on my list. It's an article that interests me. But I may not be around much for the next few days. ElinorD (talk) 22:01, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm???

Do the Brits refer to it as "popmaize" since they refer to all grains as "corn" and destinguish "corn" from wheat, oats and barley by referring to it as "maize"??? 65.69.81.2 19:58, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Woo, don't start that one again. :-p--StarChaser Tyger 05:44, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Popcorn fumes

The small section on popcorn fumes/lung cancer is almost wholly plagiarized (and the news source given is one that expires quickly and so is not accessible over time). The ideas presented might be useful to include if the focus were first on the health hazards in the industry and then a brief note on the one case that suggests a need for consumer attention. Don't have time right now to do this, so am just taking the bold first step of pulled the problematic section. Cyg-nifier 18:09, 6 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]