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A super jumbo: G-VAST of Virgin Atlantic, thundering off from San Francisco International Airport, a heavenly place for planespotting!

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Archive 1: August 2005 - September 2006

		The Rosetta Barnstar
		I award you the Rosetta Barnstar for your knowledge of Latin. Without you, the American School in London would have been said to receive its fees "per anum." Urthogie 08:02, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

		The Photographer's Barnstar
		I,Djmckee1 Award you this Photographer's Barnstar for your stunning, amazing, brilliant and beautiful aircraft Photographs.--Djmckee1 11:37, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A380 delivery

Just a note on your recent deletion of my A380 delivery date 2008 from the Qantas entry: Going by media sources you are correct. QF internal sources differ, but I am unable to quote them, so we'll leave it at 2007 until the information has been made public. Sasha 00:10, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I don't doubt you, in the light of recent media stories on A380 delays, but we have to stick to things for which we have checkable sources. It is fine to quote existing media sources expressing doubt about delivery date, even if they don't give precise dates. Personally I'm disappointed, as I fly Qantas internationally a reasonable amount (I should go platinum in three weeks, joy!) and the extra room would be most welcome. --Jumbo 00:17, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Editing of date format

Just a note on your recent edit to Geelong, Victoria. Editing date formats has no real purpose, as editors have the option to select how they wish to view dates under their personal Preferences section (above). Check under the 'Dates and Times' heading in Preferences for more information. Cheers. -- Longhair 06:44, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Most of our readers don't have accounts, and hence see dates in their "raw" format. See WP:DATE for more information. --Jumbo 06:47, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good point. Just thought it was worth noting as fiddling with dates can get up the noses of others around here - I myself don't mind, but I've seen it happen before :) Thanks for the speedy reply. -- Longhair 06:50, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I'll tread carefully in future! --Jumbo 07:02, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A380 gates

Please read my response on the SFO talk page. Thanks 67.180.5.182 00:34, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about the anon posting, I seemed to have lost my account information. I guess I get a little defensive when it's about my home airport! I can't wait until the day when I drive down 101 and see a mammoth A380 parked at the gate. 67.180.5.182 00:34, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Singapore Airlines promises A380 ops into Sydney by the end of the year. I will probably drive up and take a look-see. No plans for me to return to SFO before April 2007, when my next RTW is scheduled. I do my best to avoid LAX nowadays, but SFO is one of my favorites. Hard to go past SIN and HKG, though. --Jumbo 00:58, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Date format change

Your question:

Looking at this diff, I'm wondering if there was any reason why you changed the format of the date from International Dating to American Dating? --Jumbo 04:32, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I linked it so the user preferences for data formatting applied. I'm not sure that the mediawiki software can interpret forms other than August 17 and 17 August so I changed it to one of those formats while linking it. It shouldn't matter now that preferences apply because everyone will see it in the preference they have selected. If you happen to know if the software for implementing preferences can support [[17th of August]], please let me know. As for changing from number before month to number after, I'm not sure I was even aware I was doing that. RJFJR 13:40, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm doing much the same thing. User preferences only work with correctly wikilinked dates, but most of our readers don't have accounts, so they see the "raw" format. These should be as per the Manual of Style, and changing one format to the other raises all sorts of hackles, I've discovered! --Jumbo 17:31, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dates on Elizabeth II

True, but there's also this... If you would like to change it; please do. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 21:52, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Date format changes

As has been explained to you quite clearly, you should not be going around changing date formats to your own preferences. No "senior editors" have told you any different including Raul654. I've cleaned up some of your mess, and if I see you doing it again, you will quickly find yourself blocked a 4th time for making arbitrary date format changes. I hope that is absolutely crystal clear. Jayjg ^(talk) 16:43, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Put simply, my preferences are that articles on American subjects use month-day-year American Dating, and articles on British subjects use day-month-year International Dating. Without presuming to be rude, may I ask you to please point out precisely where in the discussion to which you refer, the reverse is explained "quite clearly"? I would also like your interpretation on Raul's comments here, where he says:

My interpretation (and, I think, the Arbcom's interpretation as well) of the Manual of style and Sortan ruling is as follows: for a British or British commonwealth related article, the British style is the preferred style and it's OK to change American to British style; for an American related article, the American style is the preferred style and it's OK to change British to American.

Again I make the point that it is difficult and frustrating to be told contrary things by senior editors, and to be threatened with blocks if I follow the opinion of one over the other. If you do not agree with Raul, then I hope you will not take it amiss if I ask you to to look back over the years-long process of gaining consensus on date formats, concur with your fellows, sort out a consistency of opinion, and let me (and the rest of the community of editors) know what it might be. If you concur with Raul's interpretation, then may I request that you kindly undo your reverts of my careful work (my "mess", as you put it). --Jumbo 20:26, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What is actually "frustrating and difficult" is that you have deliberately misquoted Raul again, as has been pointed out to you before. You left off the part immediately after that statement, where he said However, it is patently not acceptable to change one acceptable style to another unless you are (a) making the article self consistent, or (b) you have a compelling reason, such as expanding the article from a 1 paragraph stub to featured article. (Simply changing the dating style for the sake of changing the dating style is not OK. Jayjg ^(talk) 20:44, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think a reasonable reading of that is that he is referring to articles on (say) China, where the Manual of Style says: Elsewhere, either format is acceptable.. It would not be right to go changing every article on China to a uniform American Dating or International Dating format because the MoS doesn't mention a preferred format and it would be a clear violation of JGuk and Sortan to go around changing things to a personal preference. Your personal interpretation seems to dictate a ban on any format changes, and that seems unreasonable. I'd prefer it if you contacted Raul to work out a consistency of opinion, please. I'm not trying to be provocative, and I'm sorry if you take it that way. I am trying to find what is and isn't acceptable, and as I say it is difficult and frustrating to be told different things by different people, especially when they are in positions of authority. --Jumbo 21:02, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My position is entirely consistent with that of Raul's. Stop pretending that there is a difference of opinion here through which you can slip your date changes. Jayjg ^(talk) 21:10, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You might like to go and harangue Yossarian, who has undone one of your reverts, citing a convention. --Jumbo 21:13, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You're the one who is haranguing. Yossarian is wrong, but I'm not going to get worked up about one date change. However, if I find people systematically working their way through articles for the purpose of changing date formats to their preferred version, I certainly will block them, as per many ArbCom precedents. Jayjg ^(talk) 21:20, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Could you cite those many precedents on date style, please? I've asked Raul for a comment, because you seem to think I'm harassing you. I think your opinion is wrong, but as I've said elsewhere, one does not argue right of way with a speeding semi-trailer, and on that point I note your continued threats to block, placing me in an impossible position. --Jumbo 21:28, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Princess parrot

Hey-the reason I hadn't shot the Princess Parrot nonsense on sight was that it had been put there by a nonsense-adding vandal subsequently identified by someone else as the General Tojo vandal, and once I started reverting his edits, he got angry and started issuing me vandalism warnings. Tired of being called a vandal for clearing out nonsense, I started just flagging his BS instead of removing it. Anyway, so I'm glad you fixed it. CHE 22:39, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the explanation! Fair enough - there are some people on WP whose aim in what passes for a life is to make life difficult for good faith editors. I must admit my eyebrows shot skywards when I saw this stuff! --Jumbo 23:01, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well... After I removed it, the Parrot stuff was re-added from this different IP, [1], from which there are also a couple of potential-nonsense bits of info on airlines you might be interested in shooting down? CHE 01:47, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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		The Original Barnstar
		For your hard work and dedication to improving Wikipedia, I, Sharkface217, hereby award you this Original Barnstar. Good job! Sharkface217 19:54, 4 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sheila Gallagher photo

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It looks like the nomination was a great success. The image appeared as the Showcase Picture for the London Portal for February 2007. -- Jreferee 17:24, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Poll options on Fred Dibnah's birthplace

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John Kerr

Please check out my comment at Talk:John_Kerr. Cheers Bjenks 03:33, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Canberra International Airport

Hi Super Jumbo, back in 2005 you added in an image link to the Canberra airport article: File:CanberraAirportAerial.jpg, but it does not seem to be there now. Do you have a picture suitable for the infobox there, that you could upload? GB 23:16, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Invitation

Canberra Meetup

Next: 15 January 2021: 5:30pm @ Jamison Club (Canberra Southern Cross Club), corner Catchpole St & Bowman St, Macquarie ACT

20th anniversary - of course - for drinks
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