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Welcome Wikipedian,
Please note down your comments / suggestions / arguments etc here . I will try to respond back as early as possible.
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Tinucherian (talk) 05:03, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
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Malankara Church
I have read the article Malankara Church. For my comments and suggestions, please read, Malankara Marthoma Church History, (Malayalam) in three volumes. Neduvelilmathew (talk) 03:29, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
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Indian Christianity
Hello,
Could you chime in at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Indian Christianity? There is some debate going on regarding the name of the portal, project and the template & icon/flag logo. Thanks.Brian0324 (talk) 20:42, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Christianity in China
Thanks for the recognition. Much appreciated! Cheers!Brian0324 (talk) 14:48, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Changes to Indian Christianity Wikiproject/workgroup
Upon discussion and consensus ( see here) , The following changes and decisions were taken w.r.t to Indian Christianity workgroup :-
- The scope of workgroup will be limited to Indian region only for now.
- The workgroup will be renamed to Christianity in India instead of Indian Christianity.
- The changes will effect the project pages, Portal and the templates.
- The templetes will be replaced by a Indian map instead of Tricolor flag picture.
This is FYI - Tinucherian (talk) 04:41, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
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I congratulate you for your efforts in making Indian Christianity Wikiproject/workgroup beautiful and attractive. Thanks for the Church info-box. Simon Cheakkanal (talk) 07:12, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Consensus at Wikiproject Indian Christianity
Tinucherian: thank you for the notice about consensus at Wikiproject Indian Christianity. I have been following the discussion [dare I say “with interest” :)] but certainly appreciate the courtesy. On a related note, I asked a colleague with much experience in Wikipedia policy about the merging of templates. She advised that merges, which typically involve the deletion of one of the templates, are handled at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion. The name may be somewhat deceptive, but a quick look through the discussions will reveal several similar to that proposed at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Indian_Christianity#Nav_boxes. Regards, Aramgar (talk) 15:44, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
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reply to Tinucherian's letter
Hai Tinu, I read your letter .I am not intending to vandalize the viewpoints of any church or group.I was under the impression that the Jacobite Syrian Church didnot claim for the title 'Catholicose of The East'.The Jacobite Church of India is an Autonomous church and not an Autocephalous Church.Only the heads of an autocephalous church have the real right to use the titles Catholicose or 'Patriarch'.
The supreme head of the Syrian Jacobite Church is H.H Ignatios Zakka I Iwas.But H.B Baselios Thomas I ,is just a Maphryono,i.e; a subordinate of the Patriach of Antioch.Please also note that the head of the Malankara Catholic (rite) church,alsodo not have the right to use the title of 'Catholicos' as he also comes under the supremacy of Pope ,in the Catholic Hierarchy.I have evidence for this ,as i have a copy of the letter sent by Cardinal Walter Casper,to H.G Philipose Mar Eusabios,stating that the title had not been awarded by the Pope, but was being used by the Major Archbishop himself.
Now, as for the Malankara Syrian Jacobite church,I will give you evidence for the reason why another person under the title of Catholicos was sent to kerala,as the head of the jaobite Syrian church ,by the Patriarch of Antioch.The passage given below is taken from an Antiochian orthodox church site discussion forum.
'Regarding H.B. Thomas 1, . H.G. Mar Eusebius discussed the issues with H.H. Patriarch in 1998 (a photo published in recent book of H.G.), and at that time the Patriarch was agreeing to the opinion of IOC. Four Jacobites bishops accepted the unity (initially it was the Patriarch who encouraged them to stand for unity). All these efforts were sabotaged by H.B. Thomas 1 in 2002. H.B. Thomas 1 went to Damascus and there he threatened the Patriarch that if he is not ordained a Catholicos, he will die there with out consuming food (Satyagraha, which is a form of struggle commonly used in India to achieve goals). Since Syria is ruled by Baath party and any such indicent would affect the Patriarch, H.B. Thomas 1 was ordained with a new title specially created for him, namely 'Catholicos of India'.
I hope you now understood why i created a new page under the title Catholicos of The East.If you think there is some mistake or false statements in this article please do leave a message in my talk page.Arunvroy (talk) 09:37, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
WikiProject Christianity
Hi, I wanted to mention that I have put up two pages for assessment on the Anglican WikiProject, but should I also send it towards your guy's way for assessment also? One has been worked on, the other start. Sermons of Dean Swift and Sermons of Laurence Sterne. Both will probably be low importance. Thanks. Ottava Rima (talk) 13:51, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
RE:Wikiproject Christianity Membership
Hey, the reason I quit this Wikiproject is two-fold. Firstly, I'm undertaking my Victorian Certificate of Education this year and next and so, I won't have much free time to edit Wikipedia. Secondly, although I am a Christian myself, I haven't actually involved in this WikiProject, so my departure won't make much of an impact. After two years, if I can see myself joining this project again, then I will be more than welcome to. I appreciate your concerns though. God bless, σмgнgσмg(talk) 11:31, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- We will be hoping that you rejoin us as early as possible. Anyways, best of luck for your studies . God bless you too - Tinucherian (talk) 11:34, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- thank you for alerting me to the project and forwarding on the welcome template. I am not as active on wikipedia as I would like to be but I find it useful to have fellow project members to work through issues with. Regards Matilda talk 07:36, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi Matilda , Thanks for accepting my offer and joining WP:X - Tinucherian (talk) 10:05, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
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re: wp:x invitation
Hi. Thank you for inviting me to join the project, but I'll limit my edits (for the foreseeable future) to WP:EO related articles and sections for two reasons: IMO they need to be expanded in an accurate and careful way (making me buying and reading books, which is good), while interdenominational topics are prone to opinion wars (eg. Talk:Jesus). For now it's better for me to avoid disputes (I had one related to the Sign of the Cross) - not because I can't provide arguments (eg.), but because I want to use the time I have for me, too. Interdenominational / ecumenist POVs, syntheses or debates won't give me the same satisfaction; they'd only be sterile intellectual games -- Regards. adriatikus | talk 21:02, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
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Thanks for the WP Christianity welcome. I'm ready to help when I can and am gonna start working.Mattkenn3 (talk to me) 21:50, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
- Hi Mattkenn3 , Thanks for accepting my offer and joining WP:X - Tinucherian (talk) 10:06, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
Invite.
Thankyou. I will sign up.Andycjp (talk) 04:28, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
- Hi Andycjp , Thanks for accepting my offer and joining WP:X - Tinucherian (talk) 10:08, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
- Me too, (or three). Thanks. Tiamuttalk 13:16, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
- Hi Tiamut , Thanks for accepting my offer and joining WP:X - Tinucherian (talk) 10:08, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you for inviting me, I signed up!Drboisclair (talk) 16:52, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
- Hi Drboisclair , Thanks for accepting my offer and joining WP:X - Tinucherian (talk) 10:08, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
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Tinucherian, I would love to be involved in the Christianity WikiProject. I has been a long time since I was active on Wikipedia and I would love to find a way to get involved. Just let me know what I can do. I am Southern Baptist by practice so I tend to have an evangelical and Calvinistic slant. I can do just about anything you need and can work with just about anyone. Let me know.
Anpetu-We (talk) 03:09, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
- I have replied on your talk page - Tinucherian (talk) 11:08, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, Tinucherian. That was a happy surprise you gave me. I am sure it was providential that you contacted me at this particular time. I sent you an email to explain why I think it is providential. Hope you get it. Lafem (talk) 03:12, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
- I have replied on your talk page - Tinucherian (talk) 11:08, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
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Regarding the Article Malankara Church
I suggest to rename the article title to Church of St.Thomas Christians. Thats the term used most frequently to refer to the ancient church by all denominations and parties. There is nothing wrong in using title as Malankara Church. But we see that Malankara and Malabar Church are used quite interchangely and i suggest to change the title to Church of St.Thomas Chrisitans as more apt usage. I also suggest to make it more focussed some of anceient leaders like Mar Sabor and Prodh, Some of the early metroploticans before Portuguese, Mar Thoma 1, Dinosous and Nidhiry Mani Kathanar etc making it more focussed on the gems.Tarijanel (talk) 17:02, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
- Hi Tarijanel, I am strongly aganist naming Malankara Church to Church of St.Thomas Christians. By simple reason , that it was how the local church in India was known for atleast 16 centuries. It is unquestionably the church that is started by St.Thomas , but Malankara Church will be definitely the right choice of the name of the article. You can redirect Church of St.Thomas Christians to Malankara Church , but not the reverse.The idea of the article is to focus mainly on the 15 centuries before the Portugese arrival. - Tinucherian (talk) 09:24, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
WikiProject Christianity
Thank you for inviting me to join WikiProject Christianity! I have been for a time in the dumps, planning to quit Wikipedia altogether. Maybe this will be a new start for me.-Tellervo (talk) 09:30, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- Please do join the project - Tinucherian (talk) 09:29, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Wiki Project Christianity
Hello Tinucherian, Thanks for the invitation to join Wiki Project Christianity.I will try the best of my ability to contribute and improve articles of this project Arunvroy (talk) 15:34, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
- Please do add yourself to the member page of the project - Tinucherian (talk) 09:29, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Wiki Project
Thank you for the invitation. I appreciate it and hope to contribute in some way. Sweetmoose6 (talk) 01:55, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
- Happy to have you onboard. Happy Editing - Tinucherian (talk) 09:51, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
WikiProject Christianity
Thank you for inviting me to join WikiProject Christianity. My principal interest of late is in historical sites in Los Angeles, including historic churches and synagogues. I expect to continue working in this area for a while and hope my contributions are helpful to the project. If there are particular locales in Southern California that require either photographs or articles, let me know, and I'll do my best to assist. Cbl62 (talk) 05:26, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
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Hello Tinucherian, The article you created on St.George Orthodox Churchis very good.I have added a few photos to it and did some small corrections.Thanks for creating the article.Arun V Roy (talk) 09:25, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
- I have seen your changes. Thanks for your contributions. My effort is to bring all the important churches in India ( irrespective of denominations) to Wikipedia. You can contribute in Orthodox churches. Btw i have a small advice. I know that you are a great Orthodox church fan. But please be netural when writing in Wikipedia. - Tinucherian (talk) 09:30, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Btw do you have a better image of St. George , like the one shown in the mortal remains at the chandanapally church ?? - Tinucherian (talk) 09:50, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
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Hi Tinu,
I am attaching a message. I dont know what to do. Please help me
Simon
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Done I have put the right License tag for you. Make sure you select the appropriate license tag from the drop box while uploading an image to Wikipedia - Tinucherian (talk) 09:29, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks Tinucherian for the invite. At present I guess I will be concentrating mostly on India related Christian entries, although I have done a few Shrines earlier in Europe. With current limited wiki time and loads of other poor articles of the subcontinent, I'm afraid that I won't be doing justice to the project. Thanks for your invite anyways. Ciao Wiki San Roze †αLҝ 17:53, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
- Hi Wikiality123, Your interest in India related Christian articles is sufficent reason for you to join the project. By joining the same , you need to create /edit articles on Christianity as whole or globally. Please do join. I am sure that will be very helpful to you.- Tinucherian (talk) 09:29, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Another DYK on Indian Christian article
Hey, Just droped in to let you know that there was one DYK from the article Roman Catholicism in India on 19th October last year. I guess you may want to add it there to the project page. Cheers Wiki San Roze †αLҝ 19:46, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Done - Added in WP:X and WP:IX Project pages - Tinucherian (talk) 09:42, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Portal help
Hello. I came across the Christianity in India portal and saw that you had created. I simply don't understand the method used in this portal to archive/accept noms for articles. I've searched a few other portals, but like this method of archiving the best. Would it be possible for you to help me out at the Christian music portal ? Any help, would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. aJCfreak yAk 19:53, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
- Secisek helped me with this archive format . I will ping him to help you - Tinucherian (talk) 09:45, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Assessments
There has been a problem with the christianity project's use of Betacommandbot. You requested that the bot replace all templates with no importance to a default of low. This is counter-productive since an article that might be of very high importance is suddenly ranked as low. Without letting each article being individually assessed, we are sweeping assessments under the rug and they are becoming almost useless. People will think that the assessment is complete and not worry about it anymore when in reality, its just as bad as having an article with an unknown importance. As User:JGHowes noted, on the wikiproject's page, how can we justify the National Council of Churches ranking as low importance? Grk1011 (talk) 02:18, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
- Please see my reply here - Tinucherian (talk) 04:26, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Churches of India
Hello Tinu, I will help you in your efforts to bring out information on all the important churches in Kerala , irrespective of denominations to Wikipedia.I will try the best of my ability to add neutral information while creating or editing articles.I think I have a good image of St.George,and will upload it soon. Thanks Arun V Roy (talk) 11:57, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Good morning,
Tinucherian:
Thanks for inviting me to join in the Project Christianity. I was planning to just not do anything with your message, but when I clicked on your User Page I felt inclined to write you this note.
My involvement with Christianity is almost completely through it's art. I am not a Christian and am accused in some places of being anti-Christian, which I do not feel that I am.
Here is the short version of my involvement with that religion and I think that it will become clear why I chose to mention it to you.
In 1952, when I was 4 years old, my father was employed by the United Nations Food and Agricultural Organization and posted to Sri Lanka, then called Ceylon. In 1958 I was sent to a boarding school in Madras (now Tamil Nadu) called Kodaikanal School. It can not be that far from where you were born. It was run by Christian missionaries and their approach to the religion was enough to turn me away from it. However I was well educated in it's precepts and continue to dabble in it. Being an art historian I am particularly interested in the sculpture that the church produced.
I also have become a bit disenchanted with the bureaucratic turn that wikipedia has taken in the past few years and have cut way back on my participation here. I used to do much more.
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/13.03/wiki.html?pg=1
All this introspecion is leading me to accept your kind invitation. One of the rules that I live my life by, Rule # 19, is when asked a question, my default answer is , "yes." Please excuse my rambling, your simple note generated all sorts of thoughts and I somehow felt inclined to pass them on to you. Life is supposed to be interesting. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 13:58, 29 April 2008 (UTC)