Talk:Tomb Raider: Anniversary
Error in confirmed game elements
From the looks of the screenshots and the renders, the weapons she is carrying aren't the classic Brownings from the original games. They look more like M1911 Colt's or 1911 clones. L33tj0s 08:48, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Release date
I've read now somewhere that the release date is sometime in March 2007. Simply south 00:53, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
Fresh Idea
I have a proposal. I posted some time ago an article that just doesn't fitted with Wikipedia's standards. This is my article: User:Locketudor/Tomb Raider music. I want to split it, remake it and distribued it to all Tomb Raider games. --Tulok 15:27, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
"Classic Costumes"
Does this mean all costumes from TR1 to TRC? (Opinion here: that would be pretty cool if it were!) Ggctuk 09:55, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Clean up
Please guys, this article deserves a good clean up. From the beginning, contributors have written their own speculations or hearsays about the game, without caring about structure or sources. We have now plenty of online (and paper) reviews to be able to correctly write about what has been confirmed to be in the game, and to properly source it (ie not lazily put 2 or 3 external links, but create proper citations with templates, etc). Folken de Fanel 00:06, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
This article could also use some more screenshoots and images. --sturm 23:34, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
Levels
since we dont have any info about the level's descriptions, how about we delete them and then add them again once we have obtained info.
Update: HELP!!! while trying to get rid of the image on remake status i think i took of alot of the Core section by accident. could someone restore the article to the point before i took the image off? Fullarius 18:24, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
- Whoops. I wrote that stuff under levels (yes, a lot of it is speculation, but if this is to be faithful, then until we get an actual level list, then I think this should be kept) Ggctuk 10:01, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
- It can't be kept as speculation as to what will make it to the final game, however we can mention what was in the original levels, without speculating about it's presence in Anniversary.
- When the game is released, we'll be able to make a comparison original/remake, but currently it's useless, and as speculations aren't the aim of Wikipedia...So we've better rewrite any speculative statement, so that it won't speculate anymore about the content of Anniversary. Folken de Fanel 11:59, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
- May we post pre-released screenshots here? Ggctuk 12:36, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
- When the game is released, we'll be able to make a comparison original/remake, but currently it's useless, and as speculations aren't the aim of Wikipedia...So we've better rewrite any speculative statement, so that it won't speculate anymore about the content of Anniversary. Folken de Fanel 11:59, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
proper sources
Is IMDB a reliable source? if it isnt then why is it cited?
Inccorect information?
"One move they did was a fireball throw, just like the original counterpart. The trailer revealed also that the game was planned for a May release."
From the trailer, I could have sworn that the mummy just stood down from the 'looking' position and another one just blew up. Mummies in the first Tomb Raider NEVER threw fireballs and it looked like to me that the mummy simply blew up.
Could somebody verify this, or were they actually throwing fireballs (in which case winged mummies are next probably) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ggctuk (talk • contribs) 12:51, 8 March 2007 (UTC).
- My mistake - they were throwing fireballs - not exactly faithful to the mummies in TR1, but hey, CD and EI make the rules (but I think iD's going to sue somebody). Ggctuk 16:12, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
- I could have sworn the mummies in the original game threw fireballs when they were at a distance... unless that's just in the "Unfinished Business" extra levels? Dave-ros 14:21, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
Animation Reels - leaked or not?
An animation reel has appeared recently on YouTube, and I was wondering whether it was leaked or not. If it was, would it still be worth a mention? Content included animations from Lara, Larson, Raptors, the T-Rex (Which would point to this being leaked since EI and CD want to keep a tight lid on the T-Rex for now) the Unmummified Atlantean, and in some instances, the centaurs. Ggctuk 08:57, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Yes, it was leaked. Not sure whether it deserves a mention. It wasn't that important.
Wondering
Isn't it important, the fact that some people worked for the music of the games. There is Nathan McCree, Peter Connelly, Troels Brun Folmann, Alan Silvestri and lot of other important names. If anyone would like to help me with the genral article about Tomb Raider Music User:Locketudor/Tomb Raider music. --Tulok 13:55, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
I put the article on a new page with the old link redirecting to the new URL so its easier for people to find it. New link: Tomb Raider Music.
TRA on Wii
I've no time right now to work on a good way to include the info, so I'm providing all the sources necessary for you guys to create great new section on the subject, as usual ;)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2007/05/15/bcnsci15.xml
http://www.tombraiderchronicles.com/headlines3268.html
http://wii.ign.com/articles/788/788338p1.html
Folken de Fanel 20:37, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Seems it was unnecessary after all ^^...Folken de Fanel 20:39, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Trailers
Soon we won't need the trailers section. Please focus on more important things!--Tudor Tulok 03:41, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
PC version?
Isnt there a PC version. My friend downloaded the game from a torrent for the pc and from what ive seen it was made for it and not just an emulator. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.69.65.165 (talk • contribs) 16:40, May 27, 2007 (CDT).
- Yes, there is a version for the PC. Please read the article. ColdFusion650 22:06, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
- It says Gametap version. Its PC but you stream them. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.69.65.165 (talk • contribs) 17:17, May 27, 2007 (CDT).
- Ok, two things. One: sign your comments. Two: Read the article. It clearly says that there will be a PC version. ColdFusion650 01:13, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
- I am such an idiot. Sorry about that, i was looking for it to say PC and it says windows. When i look for something specific, i don't really notice other thing. And i dont have an account here so i dont know how i should sign my comments. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.69.65.165 (talk • contribs) 11:07, May 28, 2007 {CDT).
- Below the save button, there is a thing that says "sign your username" ~~~~ ColdFusion650 17:38, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
- I am such an idiot. Sorry about that, i was looking for it to say PC and it says windows. When i look for something specific, i don't really notice other thing. And i dont have an account here so i dont know how i should sign my comments. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.69.65.165 (talk • contribs) 11:07, May 28, 2007 {CDT).
- Ok, two things. One: sign your comments. Two: Read the article. It clearly says that there will be a PC version. ColdFusion650 01:13, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
- It says Gametap version. Its PC but you stream them. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.69.65.165 (talk • contribs) 17:17, May 27, 2007 (CDT).
Is it released?
I see the release date stuff, and it even says "coming soon" on Steam, but explain how this page can exist: http://www.tombraiderchronicles.com/tombraideranniversary/walkthrough/index.html
Did this guy get a leaked copy or something? --Katana314 22:06, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
- It seems that a lot of UK citizens who ordered on Amazon.co.uk have received the copy 2 days early...myself included! I was completely shocked! I have no idea what the explanation is...but I think it should therefore be mentioned in the article. (Check out www.tombraiderforums.com to see just how many fans have got their copy early) Jamandell (d69) 23:04, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Plot
I wrote the plot through summarizing some of the actual cutscenes of Tomb Raider Anniversary posted on YOUTUBE.COM. It may change as the whole plot is released when the game is released. Please contribute as necessary. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.106.184.79 (talk • contribs) 00:52, May 31, 2007.
- I went through and corrected the spelling and grammar. ColdFusion650 12:12, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
- Thank god for that, I was starting to see fireflies on my eyeballs after switching so many times between several windows to write the plot. However, don't you think the end part, in the boat where Lara looks at her hands-AGAIN, is up for interpretation instead of actually suggesting to the viewer what she thinks? I think it would be better if we just write it as is and leave it to the viewer on what he/she thinks. Also, on another note the Atlantis level is described in further detail than the prior ones. Shouldn't we generalize it, focusing on character development plot points? After all, this is the first story where we get to know Lady Croft. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.106.184.79 (talk • contribs) 10:31, May 31, 2007.
- I don't care. I just fixed the spelling and grammar. Content is not what I was focusing on. ColdFusion650 15:41, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
- Thank god for that, I was starting to see fireflies on my eyeballs after switching so many times between several windows to write the plot. However, don't you think the end part, in the boat where Lara looks at her hands-AGAIN, is up for interpretation instead of actually suggesting to the viewer what she thinks? I think it would be better if we just write it as is and leave it to the viewer on what he/she thinks. Also, on another note the Atlantis level is described in further detail than the prior ones. Shouldn't we generalize it, focusing on character development plot points? After all, this is the first story where we get to know Lady Croft. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.106.184.79 (talk • contribs) 10:31, May 31, 2007.
First human kill
From what i know there is a little mistake in the storyline. In Anniversary Larson is suppose to be the first human victim of Lara. The problem is that Larson also appears in Chronicles (so it had to take place before Anniversary) and from what i remember Lara was killing people there already. --sturm 11:31, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
- If you read through the plot of Chronicles, it's just a series of flashbacks, a clips show. So, that particular mission takes place before the first Tomb Raider. Other missions take place at different times. ColdFusion650 11:51, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
- Yes but does Lara kill anyone in that part of Chronicles?--sturm 14:04, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
- I don't know. ColdFusion650 14:20, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
- If TRC's Rome takes place before TR1 and TRA, then no, Lara did not kill them. Because otherwise how would they be in TR1/Anniversary?? Ggctuk 08:59, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
- Im not asking if she killed Larson but did she kill other human enemies in Chronicles. --sturm 14:52, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
- She killed people in the Russia and VCI levels, mostly dogs and wild animals (as well as statues and deceased gladiators) in the Rome levels and none in the Black Isle levels. Ggctuk 13:25, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
- Dogs, wild animals, and statues are not people. ColdFusion650 14:41, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
- The Rome plot from TRC has been completely retconned; AE makes no sense at all otherwise (as Lara has a completely different personality). MMAN 12:34, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- Dogs, wild animals, and statues are not people. ColdFusion650 14:41, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
- She killed people in the Russia and VCI levels, mostly dogs and wild animals (as well as statues and deceased gladiators) in the Rome levels and none in the Black Isle levels. Ggctuk 13:25, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
- Im not asking if she killed Larson but did she kill other human enemies in Chronicles. --sturm 14:52, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
- If TRC's Rome takes place before TR1 and TRA, then no, Lara did not kill them. Because otherwise how would they be in TR1/Anniversary?? Ggctuk 08:59, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
- I don't know. ColdFusion650 14:20, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
- Yes but does Lara kill anyone in that part of Chronicles?--sturm 14:04, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
Attempted Move
Whoever tried to move this article, did it wrong. They didn't actually move it properly, using the move function. But since the new title article already exists from their attempt, I can't move it to the correct title without an administrator. Please do not attempt to move this page in the interim. ColdFusion650 19:19, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
"Differences from the original 1996 Tomb Raider" cleanup
This section in the article needs a little cleanup. When I read it I found information of a speculative nature. I have done my best to remove some of it and add some more information, however, we need to keep speculation from this article now the game is out. Ggctuk 12:53, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
Differences from the original 1996 Tomb Raider
I think this is a good thing to have but it seemed a bit biased towards the original game (although it's admittedly near-impossible to defend some of the deletions). I clarified some points and tweaked a few of the bits that showed a very obvious bias. I also removed some of the "other changes" (they showed the most obvious bias of all, and thing about the Mutant Lara having eyebrows just read like some pointless fan trivia thing).
I also removed the "remake status" section, as it was speculation from before the game's release MMAN 12:16, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Reception
WHERE IS "RECEPTION/REVIEWS" PART OF THE GAME?
Spoilers
Could someone please add spoiler tags to this. I would do it myself but i suck at editing.
And add a Spoiler tag for the section that talks about the differences between TR1 and TR:A. Fullarius 02:43, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
What happened at 'References'
At reference nr. 11, it says: Cite error 8; No text given.
Can anyone clean this up? Gawanti 10:59, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Xbox 360 Episodic Content section
"On 18 June 2007 Eidos announced an Xbox 360 version of Tomb Raider: Anniversary. The game is split up into four episodes with the first two being released in September and the next two following shortly afterwards. The Croft Manor level will be available as a free download for each set of episodes. Purchasing all four episodes will cost 2400 Microsoft Points ($29.99 USD) and will require a Tomb Raider: Legend disc. It is the first time a full retail game will be available on the Xbox Live Marketplace. The game will also be released as a retail game for the Xbox 360 at a later date."
Is there a source for this? This is the first time I've heard of it. I know the game can be bought instore, but there is nothing to download for it. Carocat 22:23, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Cheers. That also mentions September and as of now [end of October] there is nothing of it yet. Carocat 09:20, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
- I've done a bit of searching, and it looks like the release date for the episodic content on the Xbox Live Marketplace has been pushed back to November (Source) - Shrensh 11:07, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Review Response Table
I've just added a review response table, replacing the last 2 column unaligned one. Please can you add review scores as you please to compile the list. Make sure you code it properly, and don't use sites which give a score of all of reviews from multiple sites. Thanks - Breadsticks.rock (talk) 18:43, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
Article protected?
I can't edit it. I was going to add a little bit under "Other Changes" noting that weapons now have a maximum ammunition limit that prevents the player from accumulating any more ammo. In the original Tomb Raider, the player could carry as much ammo as there was to be found in the entire game. 74.242.118.197 (talk) 03:43, 23 May 2008 (UTC)