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Ruggero or Ruggiero?

I personally always use Ruggero, but which is proper?
NewYork1956 05:52, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Standard operatic repertory" ?

Someone's full of shit. It's a meaningless anachronism. --76.224.87.17 (talk) 17:28, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re "Der Roland von Berlin (13 December 1904 Deutsche Oper, Berlin)" Did the Deutsche Oper Berlin exist in 1904. My understanding is that it didn't. Any thoughts? -- Kleinzach (talk) 06:52, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think there's a problem with the Chicago Opera Theater as well.--Kleinzach (talk) 07:50, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Alternative date of birth

Apparently, until relatively recently he was believed to have been born on 8 March 1857 or 1858, and these dates still appear all over the web [1]. The correct date 23 April 1857 has been established, but we need to say something to explicitly put 8 March to rest. Does anyone have the story of how the wrong date got into the literature? -- JackofOz (talk) 12:41, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • I've now added a footnote referencing the correct date to four recent sources. I have no idea how the wrong date came about, but it was even used in the older, e.g. 1980, edition of Grove. Best Voceditenore (talk) 10:08, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Song list removed

I'm removing the song list from the article page for the following reasons:

  1. It is a copied verbatim from http://www.ruggeroleoncavallo.it/elenco.htm and is possibly in violation of copyright.
  2. It is too long, swamps the article, and is of very limited intererest to the general reader. Whoever added it should consider starting a separate page, e.g. Songs by Ruggero Leoncavallo
  3. The information about the songs (lyricist, publisher, occasion of composition, instrumentation, etc.) is not in English.
  4. The formatting is not the one used in Wikipedia.

Note if a new page such as Songs by Ruggero Leoncavallo is started, the list cannot be simply pasted in from http://www.ruggeroleoncavallo.it/elenco.htm. It must be correctly formatted, all accompanying information must be in English, and it must referenced as to its source. Voceditenore (talk) 17:24, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with what you are saying and do not wish to change it: I disagree, however, that the list was "copyright" - you never know, I may the one to have provided the list to that site in the first place! In any event to say that Leoncavallo composed "x" song is not copyright. The industry and research maybe copyright in certain circumstances, but all one has to do is to search the copyright (SECAM for example) lists and copy and paste. Trust me I'm a lawyer... well...