Talk:Ruud van Nistelrooy

International Career

I know next to nothing about van Nistelrooy, so does anyone know: why did he not play for the Dutch National Team before Euro 2004? Or did he play and it is just not listed? It seems like he had the credentials...right?

== He played for them in qualifying for WC 2002, and got his first goal on April 28, 1999 against Morocco, so I would assume he was playing a bit b4 that, maybe as a sub.

Discussions, change requests

Spelling: Nistelrooij vs. Nistelrooy

When did Ruud van Nistelrooij change his name to Ruud van Nistelrooy? --Branko

It's not a change of name, just spelling -- the Dutch letter "IJ" which appears at the end of the alphabet looks just like "ÿ" when handwritten in lower case, and in English it's usual to omit the dots over the letter since it doesn't occur in this language.

The "v" in "van" should be capitalised when only his last name is used, according to Dutch spelling rules. So it is "Van Nistelrooy" but "Ruud van Nistelrooy" or "Mr van Nistelrooy". Starting a sentence with "van Nistelrooy" is wrong in every language.

Jersey Number

I am almost positive that van Nistelrooy wears the number 10 on the Dutch national team.

9, Rafael van der Vaart wore 10 during the World Cup. Batman2005 17:59, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Van Nistelrooy and Bergkamp

How could Van Nistelrooy have driven to Amsterdam to watch Bergkamp in 1997? Bergkamp left Ajax years before that.

Van Nistelrooy's current squad status

Since his argument with Van Basten they have reconciled and he has been part of the squad for their Euro 2008 qualifiers. The article should be updated to acknowledge this. biggunnotmine 00:52, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Editings

Change 01

I have removed the following paragraph and removed other smaller examples of POV. "Since joining United, van Nistelrooy has been nothing short of spectacular. As a forward, RVN's accuracy and finishing is world-class. He is also considered one of the best at penalty kicks in football." I also intend to come back and add more about his career in the Netherlands and for the national team

box man

should it not be mentioned, for NPOV, that (afaik/iirc) he has never scored from outside of the box for manchester united (+ others?)

He scored exactly one goal from outside the box for Man Utd. Its a valid point. Niall123 14:34, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

He scored one from midfield, a la Beckham, for PSV. You could add this to to trivia. 59.92.63.183 15:56, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

I added this a several times but people seem not to like it (as they keep deleting it :P)... I think the fact that Ruud only scored one goal from outside the box is a really interesting one. I think you can agree that a lot of people will be intrigued (or at least smile) when they read it... It only adds really, and it's a trivia. I really don't see a reason why this shouldn't be entered. Rosti Talis 18:21, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

The reason I reverted this trivia bit is, well, it's irrelevant in my mind and the wording ("it was a rainy day" or somesuch) was an awful attempt at trying to be funny and made me roll my eyes. Razororz 01:28, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Well that rainy bit was a hope I could remind someone exactly in what match it was :P Rosti Talis 18:38, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Either way, the trivia is contradicted by the goal he scored against Fulham (mentioned in the Manchester United section) which started from the half way line. Another non-typical box striker goal. And articles of other box strikers like Gary Lineker don't have this kind of trivia either.

Please don't stick your tongue out at me again, or I'll tell your mom. Razororz 19:13, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

NNPOV

"Abilities A prolific striker with an outstanding finishing ability and excellent reflexes, he is also a regular penalty taker and has agility and balance for his height (1.88 m, 6 ft 2 in), which is often credited to his previous training in gymnastics." Anyone else thinks this is not necessary? The mention of him training in gimnastics and saying he is known for his positioning should be mentioned, but the rest seems to be too much and unnecessary. Rosti Talis 14:15, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Nistelrooy is widely considered to be prolific, and is thought to have an excellent finishing ability by a majority of neutral fans and experts. I don't see why it should be deleted.59.92.42.96 14:02, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

The entire section seems original research to moi. I'm removing it. Razororz 16:24, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Detailed club history statistics

There are some differences in Ruud's statistics at several websites. User:Flute138 used Soccernet.espn.go.com when he added the detailed table. From what I can see now he forgot to count some substitute matches to the totals resulting in different totals. Then on the vi.nl website, which I most of the time use as it is always accurate and up to date, at least for Eredivisie footballers there are some more different stats. Although the espn statistics provide more detail I personally have more faith in vi.nl's statistics, however I'm not 100% sure. espn also has his international matches for each year and I found that they were not accurate in there as well. I changed those according to voetbalstats.nl which is absolutely accurate and up to date. Last but not least espn gives him a total of 143 caps at Man.Utd, while vi.nl says 152. His infobox however says 150. What do you guys think of all this and what should we do about it? SportsAddicted | discuss 12:02, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

nicknames

I think it's too many and many of them seem dubious to me. However, I don't know so I hope someone who does can sort the good from the bad. Yonatanh 23:44, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Too much sports magazine-like, play-by-play detail

There's too much detail, especially in the Real Madrid section. This should be re-written. WP is not a sports magazine. This section seems unenclyclopedic. Alexf(t/c) 19:30, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Ruud2.jpg

Ruud van Nistelrooy wearing a hat has been removed, for what reason? Alexsanderson83 15:28, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Man Utd. Statistics

I have seen multiple numbers, including 150 (95), 201 (150), 140 (95), and 3 (3) (obviously incorrect). Which is the correct one?