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two hour finale on same night?

The current table seems to show the final two episodes of series four are showing on the same night. Really..? Tphi (talk) 14:24, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

We simply don't know yet, that's why we leave it like this for the time being. — Edokter • Talk • 14:28, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

acording to Radio Times next episode is 50 mins, also, it states that JE is not shown until the following saturday and is 1 hour long [1] Andrew Marsden (talk) 11:05, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yet another air date

This page gives the air date of Journey's End as July 5. 90.210.193.126 (talk) 13:03, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

All done. — Edokter • Talk • 13:16, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Three-parter?

So, is TL/TSE/JE (Turn Left/The Stolen Earth/Journey's End) a three-parter? There was no "To Be Continued", and there probably will be no "Previously" cut in the next epiosde. Yet an editor caught Greame Harper saying he considered it a three-parter. I tend to regard that as an opinion though. — Edokter • Talk • 12:46, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know for sure what you mean by the alphabet soup, "TL/TSE/JE", but presumably this is a cryptic reference to the last three episodes of the fourth series. Yes, obviously they are closely linked, in the sense that the dramatic tension raised in the eleventh episode will not be resolved until the thirteenth (much as the third series close). An alternative way of looking at it is with Episode 11, Turn Left, foreshadowing the events of episodes twelve and thirteen, but with the cloister bell ringing in the ending of Turn Left I consider the episode to have ended on a cliffhanger and thus not self-contained. --Anticipation of a New Lover's Arrival, The 12:54, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"I don't know for sure what you mean by the alphabet soup, "TL/TSE/JE", but presumably this is a cryptic reference to the last three episodes of the fourth series" - no need for that tone - it's quite clear what he meant. _Talk Islander 13:20, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So my guess was right? --Anticipation of a New Lover's Arrival, The 14:36, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Guess? The original poster explained his use of the initials *immediately*! -- 121.219.56.17 (talk) 14:56, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK, let's just see how The Stolen Earth begins next week. Our interpretation on how the stories tie together isn't useful anyway (original research). — Edokter • Talk • 13:46, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If the series 3 finale is considered a three-parter then I think this probably should be aswell. In fact, 'Turn Left' seems to be more closely linked to the final two episodes of this series than 'Utopia' was to the final two episodes of the last series. Catalina 123 (talk) 13:05, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think Graeme would be on the same tier as Gardner, Davies, and Collinson when it comes to these episodes, given he's directed the episode. He also confirms that Turn Left is structurally like Utopia. Sceptre ^(talk) 18:57, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but the producers left it entirely open. And since the events experienced by Donna in "Turn Left" have not been established to be part of the last two episodes, it should not be considered a trhee-parter yet. Like I said above; let's wait until it airs. Until then, "Turn Left" should be considered a stand-alone episode. — Edokter • Talk • 11:14, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I completely agree. It may be a three-parter in Graeme Harper's eyes, but he's not running the show. Russell T. Davies has said it's up to the viewer. I just think there's a huge inconsistency to list Trial of a Time Lord as four separate stories, when only one title was shown on screen, but to list the last three episodes of this season (and Series 3) as one story, when it's ultimately just a matter of opinionn.Pawnkingthree (talk) 12:01, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Edokter has changed it so that turn left is in the same slot has the last two serials, according to the source he used DWM issue 397, its going to be a 3 parter.--Lerdthenerd (talk) 12:15, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't change anything, just some formatting. — Edokter • Talk • 12:16, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

All the other articles take the 3-parter position, citing the director's opinion. I'm not here to argue that that's right, or that we should follow it. This post is just to talk about something that utterly confuses me. The series 4 table in this article cites the alternative by using the very quotation that is supposed to justify it being a 3-parter! Also, the broadcast date box for "202" features dates for all 3 of episodes 11 - 13. In summary, the date bit counts Turn Left twice, while the rest of the table splits the stories (in a way that goes against consensus, but my point here is not that), thus not looking right for the dates, then cites the 3-part director argument to justify the 2-episode position! I have never seen anything that weird in a Wikipedia table. It's almost as if it's trying to compromise between the two positions while citing one over the other, with strange results. Could a registered user make sure that, whichever approach is taken, the table at least doesn't look so muddled? 90.210.193.126 (talk) 20:54, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Edokter has sorted it. Thank you. 90.210.193.126 (talk) 07:25, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Air date for The Stolen Earth is wrong

It's somehow transmuted in the article to Friday 27, which is wrong. Could someone registered please fix it? 90.210.193.126 (talk) 14:25, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ghosts In The Machines - really?

If this is true, it's the first time the xmas special name has been revealed before the end of episode 13, but I have no trouble believing that ... once we have a source. The reference to the 08/09 specials as series 5 and the 2010 episodes as series 6 is not only equally unsourced, but is also contrary to various sources' description of Moffat's 2010 takeover as series 5. It is no surprise that Ghosts In The Machines has been tagged for speedy deletion, although actually that appears to be because of copyright infringement instead of a lack of sourcing. Can anyone source it? There are issues with that article, such as it not mentioning the confirmed Cybermen, or it making an unsourced claim about Mickey, but for this talk page the issue is the following: it should not be listed in this article without some source. (Wow, for once the policy is actually on my side, utterly unambiguously!) 90.210.193.126 (talk) 18:40, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good catch. No sources, so as far as we're concerned it doesn't exist. A quick search on Google for "Doctor Who" and "Ghosts in the Machines" returns only a few hundred results, with this article being top. I've nominated it for deletion, as there isn't really a CSD criteria that it fails, but it should be an easy-delete. Have also removed it from this list, and Ckatz has deleted the speculative series five article (per CSD G4). _Talk Islander 19:19, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Until 2010?

"David Tennant is confirmed to star until 2010"? Most people would read that as "up to and including 2010", but AIUI he's not confirmed beyond the 2009 specials. So shouldn't it be "until the end of 2009" or something? 86.132.139.228 (talk) 19:02, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]