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• Spencer Carlin

List of LGBT people pages: (on 2008-01-21)

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A	39K	138
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Bi-Bz	34K	132
C	44K	170
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F-G	43K	166: (74 + 92)
H-J	45K	168: (108 + 17 + 43)
K-L	49K	176: (79 + 97)
M	38K	136
N-O	22K	71: (44 + 27)
P-Q	33K	117: (109 + 8)
R	38K	129
Sa-Sc	26K	75
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T-V	43K	137: (79 + 4 + 54)
W-Z	53K	164: (143 + 2 + 7 + 12)

Guillaume Dustan

He wrote about AIDS on the Paris scene apparently. Anyway, the topic really don't interest me at all. Feel free to find more info if u can.Zigzig20s (talk) 04:33, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

I got over my prudish attitude and tried to improve the page with ur references. Let me know what u think.Zigzig20s (talk) 01:15, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

I did a bit of cleanup, too. The French article is totally longer than ours, but I don't know that it says much more :) Anyway, thanks for your help!! :) -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 02:00, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

The French article is not referenced; that is the bane of the French Wikipedia as a whole. Why did u delete Category:LGBT writers from France?Zigzig20s (talk) 02:04, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Per WT:LGBT/CAT, we're trying to move away from "LGBT occupation" categories in favor of "Gay occupation", "Lesbian occupation", etc. And then also place people in "LGBT people from country" categories. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 02:06, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

OK. Could you pls add a reference for the overdose part?Zigzig20s (talk) 03:30, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Hm. I bet imdb isn't a reliable source. Nor is the French Wikipedia. Hm. /me scurries to find something. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 03:32, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Yaay! Found it! -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 03:46, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Cool. I find it really appalling how most articles about him really focus on barebacking as a way to make him come across as the bad guy. There seems to be a lot more to him - the earlier novels, the short films, the editorial work...Zigzig20s (talk) 03:57, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

I dunno - the reviews I read make it seem like he writes pr0n. But maybe it's good - I may check out the English ones and see. :) The focus on barebacking is a bit .. difficult to take, though, you're right. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 03:59, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Francois Cusset in Queer Critics seems to suggest it is contemporary French literature with a postmodern stance on depraved sex. I don't think that would appeal to my romantic yearnings tbh. If you get a chance to read In My Room, perhaps you could create a page with a plot summary, character list, and so forth.Zigzig20s (talk) 04:05, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

(outdent) $10 US, Barnes & Noble. I'll get it next week, but won't be able to read it for a few weeks. I'll see what I find :) -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 04:17, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Question

You're an admin, what should I do about this deadlocked discussion? Just remove it? :) Ctjf83Talk 02:13, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Get some more input. There's only a couple comments - There's a great opening already on Talk:Same-sex_marriage_in_the_United_States. Also put a note at Talk:Same-sex_marriage. You might also mention WP:UNDUE, which doesn't specifically deal with this, but is related. Also, Same-sex_marriage_in_the_United_States doesn't even mention the tribe, so that's one place to start. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 02:35, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

What do we do when it looks about even? Count the "votes" and go with what the majority says, or ask a 3rd party to "decide"? Ctjf83Talk 00:24, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Response, please? CTJF83Talk 21:05, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

There's no time limit. :) -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 04:29, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

LOL, well I'm an impatient queen...throw your admin weight into it (like you did) and remove it! :) CTJF83Talk 05:19, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

You know this has nothing to do with being an admin or not - it's simply a content question that needs to be decided by consensus. And since I've weighed in to the argument, even if it were an admin function, I'd be disqualified. So get a cuppa tea and watch the situation unfold :) -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 05:22, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

So being no time limit, does that mean we could be sitting here deadlocked for 12 months?? CTJF83Talk 05:25, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes, we could. And your tea might get cold. :) -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 05:25, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

LOL, I hate to be a pain...but how do we "know" when a consensus is reached? Is there some definite threshold that has to be met? Do we just have to convince all the supporters of leaving it in, that they should switch their view? That is what I meant by "using your admin weight". How do you, or any admin decide what the consensus is, while closing an AfD, CfD, RfA (obviously a Bureaucrat)? CTJF83Talk 05:41, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

(outdent) Again, there's a big difference between admin decisions and non-admin decisions. For admin decisions, there's no hard-and-fast rule, but there are guidelines. You can read them at the descriptions of WP:AFD, WP:CFD, etc.

For content, things can be somewhat murkier. For *strict* content (like including "Sam was born in Kentucky"), the guidelines are providing sources and relevance. Most of those discussions are non-admin discussions that just need to be hashed out, get WP:3O, and keep discussing. And for living people, you have to include WP:BLP, which sometimes *does* stray into admin decisions. And admins make mistakes, too - which is why we have WP:DRV and the like.

In this case, you could remove the Coquille and request that supporters provide sources that indicate why the tribe's stance is important (have there been any books or news articles on it, for example). Since a quick gNews search provides nothing, you could argue that it doesn't meet the "encyclopedic" threshold, and that it doesn't belong. Of course, WP:CCC, so just keep watch and keep discussing. And keep an open mind - just maybe the tribe's actions will change the US constitution - stranger things have happened :) -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 05:52, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

HAHA, them changing the Constitution is a long shot! Ok, I'll give it till tomorrow when I wake up, to see if any more discussion, otherwise I'll remove it, on either not notable enough, or not encyclopedic enough. CTJF83Talk 05:56, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Buddy Fletcher

I undid your change to the page for Alphonse Fletcher Jr. Hobart Fowlkes no longer lives with Mr. Fletcher, nor has he for a couple of years. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Treyfaison (talk • contribs) 22:01, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Can you provide a reliable source that says that? The other sources on the page say that they are together. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 22:03, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

I don't see the source cited on that line that mentions Mr. Fowlkes. Can you point me to the original so I can verify how old that information was? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.249.220.120 (talk) 12:33, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Sure! The New York Times, HGLC, and a 1999 Times article all refer to their home together or to their relationship. Please don't remove the info again until you have a source that states something? Thanks! -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 14:47, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Deletion review for Kitty Chong

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Kitty Chong. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Stifle (talk) 10:03, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Karpaga

With respects, the Paal you linked in your comment is a city in the Netherlands. Perhaps you intended (the yet to be written) Paal (film)? If the former, I am confused. If the latter, I can understand. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 18:25, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

For clearing that vandalism off. -- Banjeboi 19:37, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of PBXes

Hi, two days ago you deleted PBXes two hours after a db warning tag was put there. Wouldn't it have been better to first wait a few days before proceeding? Are you able to un-delete? Thanks User:Techy71 Concerning the notability of the page: this can already be seen by it linking to several other pages. PBXes is a cloud application/SIP software and geo-social network. This makes what wikipedia is for, describing technologies and linking them together. —Preceding undated comment was added at 00:37, 27 September 2008 (UTC).

Hi there, yes, too bad indeed, what is the rational behind deleting it?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ecorthay (talk • contribs) 13:45, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

PBXes is a wonderful application with a large worldwide network of satisfied and loyal customers. I've used it for almost three years. The services offered by PBXes are very useful and can be of great benefit to wikipedia users looking for virtual pbx services. I can't understand why its article would be deleted.

PBXES is indeed a very nice application but from how I understand wikipedia it's very simple. Pbxes is a commercial company and wikipedia is being use to advertise for a commercial system. If pbxes would have been non-commercial and free things might have been different. Every commercial company thinks he makes, sell offer good products services that can be helpfull for many people, but wikipedia is not an advertising platform, that makes wiki what it is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.224.83.46 (talk) 06:43, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

There are a lot of pages on businesses. WP is not just about non-commercial and academic projects. Besides this PBXes is mostly (99% of the accounts) used as a free service. It is a product not being advetised for. This article and a lot of other articles on the web about PBXes are not created by PBXes, also this article was by one of its users. E.g. already in 2006 PBXes was named one of the top web applications by [1]. (talk) 11:41, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

I would like to know why this entry was deleted, also. Please give us a chance to reinstate it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WoodyLarry (talk • contribs) 12:23, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

The article was deleted because it seemed to be simply WP:SPAM. If you have verifiable information from reliable sources, please feel free to recreate. You may wish to review WP:FIRST for information on writing your article and how to avoid deletion. Thanks! -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 20:44, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

List of The Open Championship champions

Hey SatyrTN, I have responded to your comments at the FLC, I would greatly appreciate it, if you could have another look over the article for me. Cheers NapHit (talk) 15:16, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

A Quick Question

Hello my friend, just one more dumb quick question. I've wondered about this for some time, but when one is making changes I notice there's space to specify what the changes were. Is it best to do this? How much depth does one need to go into? And when is it called for? (I know see that it seems to be good protocol to explain the reasoning behind some changes). Thanks again for all your help. Best, MarmadukePercy (talk) 19:33, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi, MarmadukePercy! Those are called "edit summaries", and you can find out more about them at Help:Edit summary. Short answer: I recommend always putting something short and sweet in there. Hope that helps :) -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 20:53, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes, as always, most helpful. Thank you much! MarmadukePercy (talk) 05:47, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Bot WikiProject tagging

Has your bot retired from doing this? YellowMonkey (click here to choose Australia's next top model) 07:35, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Um. Not really, but I haven't done much testing or work with it recently. If you have any other resource, I recommend going with that, since I don't know how much time I'll have in the next few weeks to devote to getting the bot up and running. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 04:04, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Ongoing problem

By and large, wikipedia is a wonderful place, especially given its open-source nature. But there are inevitably the somewhat sour apples. One has stolen at least one idea of mine and leaped to post his own article first (after I'd explained why someone was notable). The same individual has repeatedly trampled on my contributions, without first saying a word. I'm fed up. To whom does one complain, and to what panjamdrum does one address one's complaints? Many thanks from a loyal wikipedian. Best regards,MarmadukePercy (talk) 03:03, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

First, of course, see if the person in question will talk to you directly. If that doesn't accomplish what you think you need, you might go to Dispute Resolution and see if those steps or people can help.

Sorry that you're having issues :(

-- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 04:08, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Advocate article

He's cute and he lives close! Satyr, that would be great! Thanks. Queerudite (talk) 13:13, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar German Translation

Hi, as I could see you awarded User:GLGermann with the Star, and it has an Translation of the text saying "Here's the LGBT Barnstar, awarded to you for all your wonderful work in translating German articles to the English wikipedia! Thanks!

Ist hier das LGBT Barnstar, zugesprochen Ihnen für Ihre ganze wundervolle Arbeit, wenn es deutsche Artikel zum englischen wikipedia übersetzt! Danke!"

I would recommend to change the German part of the text to: "Hier ist der LGBT Barnstar, er wurde Dir verliehen für Deine wunderbare Arbeit die deutschen Artikel für die englische Wikipedia zu übersetzen. Danke!"

may not be perfect, but in German this version sounds a bit more like a real sentence with some meaningful grammar ;-) 87.162.85.199 (talk) 02:24, 9 October 2008 (UTC)