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Notification section
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Thankyou
Thankyou for being a pleasure to work with during my time on WP, I really appreciate it. You've even got a mention on my userpage. ;) Lradrama 07:13, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
Transclusions of signatures
Hi Xenocidic. I've been working on subst: some transclusions into AfDs. See User:Suntag/AfD transclusions. I followed up a sock puppet account through User:Mr.Z-man/t1 to MfD:User subpages used to subvert Mediawiki limit on signatures. The sockpuppet's transcluded signature has been in the AfD since at least 10 February 2008. There also are other pages in which the sock's signature is transcluded. If transcluded signatures are forbidden, is there (shouldn't there be) a bot that adds subst: in front of signatures? -- Suntag ☼ 14:57, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
I'm not a bot
Recently, you undid a thank you on someones talk page because you though I was a bot. I'm a real human being. (goes to put it back)
75.68.103.16 (talk) 16:42, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
- I think you're confused - I didn't undo anything, and my bot was simply leaving a newsletter immediately after your "Thank you". Your Thank you has been archived and can be seen here: User talk:David Fuchs/Archive 19#Martin O'Donnell. –xeno (talk) 16:52, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
Signature autoinclusion
Why did you do this? The signature function is now broken. Jennavecia (Talk) 02:55, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
- Are you sure? Seems OK to me. J.delanoygabsadds 02:57, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
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before the question on this page. Again, welcome! –xeno (talk) 03:24, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
- hrm, looks ok to me? –xeno (talk) 03:24, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
- That's strange. As you'll notice here, it didn't work... unless it's an issue on my machine. :/ The same problem was occurring with Template:Welcome7, which I know isn't just me because others attempted to fix it before I figured out the problem.
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- And with that, I just figured out the problem. Welcome7 redirects to Template:Welcomeg and anonwelcome redirects to Template:Welcome-anon. Anyone like me who has the old names in mind will end up with a broken template because, apparently, the sig function doesn't carry over redirect. That needs to be corrected. Jennavecia (Talk) 18:53, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- I believe it's because you're not substing the template... Which it really ought be... –xeno (talk) 18:56, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- *facepalm* You're right. I just figured it out when I was typing out a thing at VPT. I substed those, because I normally do, and it worked... so I was like wtf? Went back to the page I liked above to see what the difference was and I was like "Ahhhh, I forgot to subst it!" I am going to take a nap... I think I need more naps. Sigh. Thanks. Jennavecia (Talk) 19:06, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- We can all do with more naps, Jenna =) Sleep tight. –xeno (talk) 19:16, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Award for [1]
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The Original Barnstar | |
I am delighted to award you the original barnstar for your laugh out loud edit summary at Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Rollback. Truly was the botch awesome and the commentary better yet! Pedro : Chat 20:56, 7 October 2008 (UTC) |
- heh, appreciate it. I tend to do that a lot, to be painfully honest =) –xeno (talk) 20:58, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
little help please
im looking for the NDP promises (canada) for the 2008 election. need it ASAP plz help me thanks SupaRebel35 (talk) 02:25, 8 October 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by SupaRebel35 (talk • contribs) 02:22, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
SO NOW, SO WoW - Fashion can be such a grind
So, being so inconveniently rich and everything, I decided to four new laptops in the hope that I could write them off my taxes, and possibly to see what would happen if I put them in the microwave. While putting a model together on the dell website, I couldn't help noticing the items on the "recommended accessories" page included a webcam, a USB hub, a pack of blank DVDs, and... World Of Warcraft. If I were less mentally stable I think I think I could be forgiven for thinking WoW was stalking me with a grudge. I spent three very unproductive months grinding my way through that grindtastic grindfest a while back, and its amazing how something so dementedly un-entertaining can draw you in. I see the damned game at every turn. World Of Warcraft free trial CDs are everywhere, fighting dogs,killing cats, biting babies in cradles...all you'd need to do is learn how to digest plastic and you'd never go hungry again. So, I set about emptying every CD rack I came across, thinking about creating a magnificent morning coat made out of WoW free trial CDs. I pictured myself on the streets of London making millions. Regrettably the project never got that far. After gathering all the free trial CDs into a pile, the sheer weight of concentrated grind in a single place created a grind vortex that reduced the furniture to sawdust in seconds. Only two CDs remained which I considered stringing together in a G-string arrangement, but I thought wearing that along the streets of London would give the wrong message so I set the microwave to full power and found that there really is a way to make World Of Warcraft entertaining after all. Talk About this on this talk or my talk. Thanks SupaRebel35 (talk) 00:24, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, world of warcraft is a destroyer of lives. –xeno (talk) 12:59, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- Hey, So do you play WoW?. --SkyWalker (talk) 13:55, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- If you're talking to me, no, I retired just before BC came out. L60 Priest in full T2... Shoulda sold her =) –xeno (talk) 13:57, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- Yup i was talking to Xeno, So it is you :P. So do you play any more MMO?. Btw, tell me what is so great in WoW?. They are like 20 million subscriber playing that game. What do they do in there?. It is like they are wasting their time over there like roaming around, killing others and riding on creatures. In my POV that game should disappear. I also think MMO is killing PC games. --SkyWalker (talk) 14:06, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- It's damn addictive... I guess the social co-operative aspect... Yes, I still play an MMO... –xeno (talk) 14:14, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- LOOOL.--SkyWalker (talk) 14:21, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- It's damn addictive... I guess the social co-operative aspect... Yes, I still play an MMO... –xeno (talk) 14:14, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- Yup i was talking to Xeno, So it is you :P. So do you play any more MMO?. Btw, tell me what is so great in WoW?. They are like 20 million subscriber playing that game. What do they do in there?. It is like they are wasting their time over there like roaming around, killing others and riding on creatures. In my POV that game should disappear. I also think MMO is killing PC games. --SkyWalker (talk) 14:06, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- If you're talking to me, no, I retired just before BC came out. L60 Priest in full T2... Shoulda sold her =) –xeno (talk) 13:57, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- Hey, So do you play WoW?. --SkyWalker (talk) 13:55, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Well some MMOS deserve to be sent into space but one of them called Star Wars Galaxies is pretty sweet. SupaRebel35 (talk) 23:57, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- Answers
so to answer some questions about my artice (so now, so wow above)
Skywalker- yes i still play WoW seeing as I have somehow avoided the temptation to fall of the grind boat. and i guess thats it. look for my next article called Get A Job. SupaRebel35 (talk) 00:10, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
GET A JOB - Apparently, Playing Fable 2 Will Qualify
Peter Molyneux is, by all accounts, a really nice man. people watch him walk down the street and say "there goes the really nice man", and then they'll maybe yell something about how Black and white 2 sucked a fat one, but peter forgives them because hes so nice. but fable 2, is some what the same. It is so time consuming it could be a full time job with no pay.(remind you of school, much?) but i had a few ideas for it: -a quicktime minigame event in which you try to aviod making conversation with the weird guy who works just across from you -a climatic showdown with a giant dragon that can be avoided by helping him fill out his tax return -an on screen indicator showing how much time you've played and a ticker listing more fulfilling ways you could of used the time. even so its not even out yet and i can already say "it sucked a fat one". SupaRebel35 (talk) 00:45, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
- This material is perhaps better suited for a blog? –xeno (talk) 12:11, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
canihassentenceplz?kthxbai!
canihassentenceplz?kthxbai!
is this totally random? would you say "that was random" to that sentence? well if your tired of saying it all the time i have invented something that will save your life. the random button. just press it and it will say "that was random" for you. why tire your vocal cords? call this number 1800-229-3009. operators are standing by to take your calls. CALL NOW!
if you live in umm... pretend world.
SupaRebel35 (talk) 20:19, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
AAU reminder notice
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Hey there Xenocidic! This is a friendly reminder to update your status at Wikipedia:Adopt-a-User/Adoptee's Area/Adopters whenever it is appropriate in order to provide new users with the most up-to-date information on available adopters. Also please note that we will be removing adopters who have not edited in 60 days. If you become active again (and we hope you do!) please feel free to re-add yourself. Cheers! |
- Notice delivery by xenobot 14:39, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
- So what is this message all about. Doesn't make much sense to me. It refers to a page that doesn't need updating on a frequent basis, and I don't have time anyway. Why does the message say "become active again", I am active? Why does the message say "please feel free to re-add yourself", I'm still on it!? mystified. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 14:51, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
- The "re-add yourself" is for those we've removed for 60 days of inactivity (the preceding sentence). If your status is the same, then great - no action is required. If you don't have time for adopting users, then remove yourself. if you would like to see the motivation for this message, see Wikipedia_talk:AAU#Update. cheers, –xeno (talk) 14:53, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
- I got ths message too and I'm not inactive, I edited earlier today. There's no need for it to send this out unless the user is inactive- it just makes people go to the adopter's area thinking there's something they forgot to do and not finding anything, and think they're going to be signed off if they don't do whatever it is. It needlessly toys with people's minds.:) You could include a line saying "if nothing has changed, you are still active and wanting to adopt, please ignore this message.' As you can see, I was not the only one slightly confused by it.Sticky Parkin 16:34, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
- Hrm, sorry about that, I'll keep that in mind if we send a similar message in the future. For what it's worth, we are having a handful of people update their status to more accurately reflect their current activity levels which was one of the goals of this blast. –xeno (talk) 16:47, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
- Note that the tag itself is very much broken for me—text is right under the image. Somewhat annoying. I'm running IE 7 if that's any question. The Jade Knight (talk) 17:13, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
- Ah yes I see that when loading it in IE... Strange. –xeno (talk) 17:15, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
- Note that the tag itself is very much broken for me—text is right under the image. Somewhat annoying. I'm running IE 7 if that's any question. The Jade Knight (talk) 17:13, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
- Hrm, sorry about that, I'll keep that in mind if we send a similar message in the future. For what it's worth, we are having a handful of people update their status to more accurately reflect their current activity levels which was one of the goals of this blast. –xeno (talk) 16:47, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
- I got ths message too and I'm not inactive, I edited earlier today. There's no need for it to send this out unless the user is inactive- it just makes people go to the adopter's area thinking there's something they forgot to do and not finding anything, and think they're going to be signed off if they don't do whatever it is. It needlessly toys with people's minds.:) You could include a line saying "if nothing has changed, you are still active and wanting to adopt, please ignore this message.' As you can see, I was not the only one slightly confused by it.Sticky Parkin 16:34, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
- The "re-add yourself" is for those we've removed for 60 days of inactivity (the preceding sentence). If your status is the same, then great - no action is required. If you don't have time for adopting users, then remove yourself. if you would like to see the motivation for this message, see Wikipedia_talk:AAU#Update. cheers, –xeno (talk) 14:53, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
I am the foremost expert in the world on Ho-Chunk mythology, at least outside this N. American Indian tribe. There was a stub on this subject that had a short re-written excerpt from my website, so it occurred to me that since there was essentially nothing there, I could perform a service by writing an overview of Ho-Chunk mythology. I had spent three days carefully writing the first three sections of this with an enormous number of footnotes, when some hobbledehoy put in a section extolling the garbage-like ideas of my bitterest academic enemies. Fortunately, only a very small fraction of what I was going to write was entered. I assumed that if this outsider wanted to intrude in the middle of my project, that it would be alright to remove my part of the contribution and give him free rein to do whatever it was that he wanted in pursuing his competing thesis. It makes no sense to me to have a highly scholarly article riddled with severe inconsistencies. That I can't remove my very own contribution is infuriating.
However, the good news is that my lawyer thinks that I have a good position on this. I took material out of my copyrighted website with the thought that at some point I could say, "reproduced by permission of the author". However, I hadn't yet gotten around to that when my article was destroyed by an ignoramus intruder. That means that almost all of it violates my own copyright. Therefore, under the present circumstances, I not only may withdraw it, but I must withdraw it according to your own rules. I resisted these attempts to force me to surrender my writing to the encyclopedia by every means that I could think of. Except one, of course: a lawsuit for copyright infringement.
I'll make you a deal. I'll accept banishment gladly if you will return to me my own writing out of this STUB (!).
Please contact me by my own email, as this site is pure chaos to me, and I don't think that I will be able to find your response otherwise.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Diete003 (talk • contribs) 19:01, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
- Where are we with this editor? Part of the problem is that he doesn't understand our policy on OR, and is treating articles as though they were essays, and when people revert his OR he doesn't understand why and gets upset. Here of course he doesn't realise he's donated his work to Wikipedia. Somewhere yesterday I read of two other editors who were also trying to remove work that they had added to articles and hadn't understood the GFDL. Doug Weller (talk) 05:45, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
- I think that he could be a valuable contributor, but he needs to be explained how things work: both the bit about NOR and also the fact that it's a collaborative project. As far as I can tell, he was originally miffed when someone added a section he didn't like to the Hochunk article linked above. As far as his contributions he wants to withdraw, I believe we left it in a reverted state but as far as MGodwin is concerned, the material can be re-used... (See the AN: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive172#Ho-Chunk mythology) –xeno (talk) 12:04, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks, I should have looked more carefully. Check your email. Doug Weller (talk) 12:20, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
- I think that he could be a valuable contributor, but he needs to be explained how things work: both the bit about NOR and also the fact that it's a collaborative project. As far as I can tell, he was originally miffed when someone added a section he didn't like to the Hochunk article linked above. As far as his contributions he wants to withdraw, I believe we left it in a reverted state but as far as MGodwin is concerned, the material can be re-used... (See the AN: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive172#Ho-Chunk mythology) –xeno (talk) 12:04, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
- Where are we with this editor? Part of the problem is that he doesn't understand our policy on OR, and is treating articles as though they were essays, and when people revert his OR he doesn't understand why and gets upset. Here of course he doesn't realise he's donated his work to Wikipedia. Somewhere yesterday I read of two other editors who were also trying to remove work that they had added to articles and hadn't understood the GFDL. Doug Weller (talk) 05:45, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks again Xeno. It's been busy these last few days but what can you do? Take care. Tasos (Dr.K. (talk) 20:30, 8 October 2008 (UTC))
- Anytime, –xeno (talk) 20:32, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your help!
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The Guidance Barnstar | |
Thanks! Unionhawk (talk) 20:41, 8 October 2008 (UTC) |
- No problem, let me know if you need anything further. Thanks for the barnstar =) –xeno (talk) 20:42, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
non-violent FPS
Hi Xeno, I'm still working on the article I mentioned to you, but I have a ways to go. Perhaps I'm being too ambitious. Anyway I'll probably work on this on and off for the next week as I'm very busy outside of wiki right now and I have almost no time this weekend, but if you're curious there's a very rough start to the article in my sandbox. Anyway, I also wanted to let you know that while I do disapprove of some of your arguments, and we do appear to be deadlocked in the various discussions, I firmly believe that you are acting in good faith and I respect your intentions. I hope there will be no hard feelings if I have to go to Arbcom with the dispute. -Thibbs (talk) 21:41, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
- There would be no hard feelings but I do believe it would be rejected as premature: we haven't even really had many outside opinions from WPVG yet and there are other steps in dispute resolution that can be explored. best of luck with the article, I do think it's something that's needed. cheers, –xeno (talk) 21:59, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
Thingg's RFA
Excellent nom. Looks like Thingg's definitely going to pass, and at least pass WP:100. ;) Congrats on a solid candidate. — ceranthor (strike) 00:30, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
xbox live
are you xenoliath on live? I just played with him on halo 3. Washburnmav (talk) 18:33, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- nope, same name: http://live.xbox.com/member/xenocidic –xeno (talk) 18:37, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Help with templates
I was told you could help me with this: "Is it possible for me to have template:a transclude tags into template:b, so that they are not included into template:b, but not the final article?" ~ 10nitro (talk) 20:08, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- Can you help me out with an example of what you're trying to accomplish? –xeno (talk) 20:13, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- I want to need to create many templates like:
{{Template:User blank|[[name|abbreviation]]|This user can program in '''[[:Category:User name|name]]'''}}
[[Category:User abbreviation]]<noinclude>
{{documentation|{{PAGENAME}}/doc}}</noinclude>- So, I want to create a template to make a simple template to use in those, that will be as easy as "{{User:10nitro/progbox|name|abbreviation}}" that I can put in all the others. ~ 10nitro (talk) 20:45, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry I'm really drawing a blank on this one I still don't understand, can you give me a precise example? I think what you want to do can be taken care of with switches but I'm not sure. –xeno (talk) 20:57, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- I want it so that if start editing "template:a" (just as an example), and type:
{{subst:User:10nitro/progbox|name|abbreviation}}
- then afterwards the source of "template:a" will be:
{{Template:User blank|[[name|abbreviation]]|This user can program in '''[[:Category:User name|name]]'''}}
[[Category:User abbreviation]]<noinclude>
{{documentation|{{PAGENAME}}/doc}}</noinclude>- The tricky part of this is getting the "<noinclude>" tags to be generated in the final "template:a" ~ 10nitro (talk) 21:25, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- Now I get it... Try breaking up the noinclude tags as follows
<includeonly><no</includeonly><includeonly>include></includeonly>Blah blah<includeonly></no</includeonly><includeonly>include></includeonly>
- That should work. The "Blah blah" bit is what will be wrapped in no include tags when substed. –xeno (talk) 22:17, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks!, I think I got it to work! ~ 10nitro (talk) 23:00, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- edit: no, wait, it works when I subst it, but not when I just transclude it... which needs to work (I made that unclear) ~ 10nitro (talk) 23:13, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- This might not be possible... I had a similar conundrum a few weeks back. I'm going to ask Thingg, he's really good with these stumpers. –xeno (talk) 00:12, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- I've only got a little time to edit right now (got to get to bed...). I've got two hours tomorrow free between classes. Do you mind if I work on it then? Thingg⊕⊗ 03:34, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- This might not be possible... I had a similar conundrum a few weeks back. I'm going to ask Thingg, he's really good with these stumpers. –xeno (talk) 00:12, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry I'm really drawing a blank on this one I still don't understand, can you give me a precise example? I think what you want to do can be taken care of with switches but I'm not sure. –xeno (talk) 20:57, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
I think I figured it out. Typing {{subst:User:J.delanoy/3}}
produces this (minus the level two header). I think that is the code you were looking for.
See also, User:J.delanoy/2 and User:J.delanoy/1. You need both of those as well, or it won't work. J.delanoygabsadds 04:09, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Actually, I don't think you can do it without subst:ing it because MediaWiki parses the psuedo-html tags at the wrong time (ie: before it starts displaying the template's code on the page). This causes anything that is included in the "magic tags" to be treated as plain text when you simply transclude the template instead of subst:ing it (kind of the same way the "four tildes magic" works when you subst: the welcome templates, but it doesn't work when you merely transclude them). Unfortunately, I think this is another one of those cases where you can't get around it unless you make an extension to allow you to affect the way MediaWiki parses templates (and you can't do that here :( ). Sorry man. At least it still work when you subst: it... Thingg⊕⊗ 15:31, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- That's what I suspected. cheers Thingg. –xeno (talk) 15:32, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Deleted article resurrection
I would like for you to send me a copy of the deleted article (redacted). I remember seeing it yesterday and I would like to do a bit of research using that article as to why people do this. The Llama! (talk) 10:33, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Hrm, apologies, but I'm not comfortable recreating this material either on-wiki or off. It contains potentially sensitive personal information and probably violates decency laws of some jurisdictions. –xeno (talk) 14:50, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
FYI, whatever the compromised nature of this account, this might be of interest to you. Cheers. --Rodhullandemu 15:18, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Hrm, yes,.. The only thing that leads me to believe it may be his brother is because he was chugging along happily, delivering newsletters, and there was no stressors (as far as I can see) and suddently he retires and wikicides? Confusing! Not to say one can be excused for having their account compromised, but... –xeno (talk) 15:29, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- I may believe that, but if the guy already operates sockpuppets we have no way of knowing whether the brother story is true either. I think your advice for him to email en#unblock is probably the right move here and if he can persuade an uninvolved admin that his account was compromised and he has now changed his password, that would be a start. The problem is that certainly Firefox caches passwords, so we may be no further forward. Meanwhile, I've blocked the socks with no access to talk page on the basis of the history, so email is now his only way out. --Rodhullandemu 15:35, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Well I guess there's a question as to whether they're "socks" or "legitimate alt accounts", but yes, the list seems to be the best way to go about it pleading his case. –xeno (talk) 15:39, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- I may believe that, but if the guy already operates sockpuppets we have no way of knowing whether the brother story is true either. I think your advice for him to email en#unblock is probably the right move here and if he can persuade an uninvolved admin that his account was compromised and he has now changed his password, that would be a start. The problem is that certainly Firefox caches passwords, so we may be no further forward. Meanwhile, I've blocked the socks with no access to talk page on the basis of the history, so email is now his only way out. --Rodhullandemu 15:35, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Yo Xeno. I've worked with BBHS on a number of articles and he has been a very valuable contributor to FL/GA and the like. He appears to be a non-Anglo teenager with behavioural problems, but has done a lot of good faith work. In the case that he wants to leave Wikipedia permanently, or wants to vandalise it, the userpage block will not help much - in the former case for obvious reasons, and in the latter case he will just use a sock account. There is a possibility that the account is compromised/it was a temporary temper tantrum, and in that case I think allowing him to edit his usertalk on his return would leave the situation open to reconciliation. BBHS has not the temperment to grovel on a mailing list, I think. The worst case scenario of allowing him to edit his usertalk is a stream of FUCKFUCKFUCK WIKIPEDIA ARGH. I ask that you consider it. Petty vandalism is a small price to pay for potentially restoring a valuable contributor. Mahalo, the skomorokh 16:58, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- After I uncovered the potential of the compromised account I thought of tweaking it back, and this confirms that, so,
Done. cheers, –xeno (talk) 17:18, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- I think that makes sense, but still leaves the sock/alternate accounts; it appears they are SUL accounts anyway, but both have been used for editing. If an unblock request is successful, there's no reason for these to stay blocked, as long as they are used legitimately. --Rodhullandemu 17:25, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Right, from the thread you linked about they were seemingly used on accident, as long as there's no collusion between the accounts they could be unblocked. –xeno (talk) 17:27, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- [ec] Thanks very much for your consideration Xeno. I'm not vouching for BBHS, but it's possible this could work out. In any case I think a checkuser/some other IP investigation is certainly in order, if there is not one underway already. 17:28, 10 October 2008 (UTC)—Preceding unsigned comment added by Skomorokh (talk • contribs)
- no problem. though, if the brother thing is true then checkuser would only reveal they're in the same household. =) it wouldn't be able to verify if it's actually the brother or the guy "going a little loopy" and doing some vandalism. –xeno (talk) 17:40, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- I am not a great subscriber to the brother theory; it seems from the same stable as "dog ate my homework". I was thinking more along these lines. If a former sockmaster goes on a vandal spree, there may be unblocked sock accounts lying around. BBHS, and all his brothers, should be restricted to User talk:BBHS, I think. the skomorokh 17:46, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- ah gotcha... well it seems he used up his 2nd chance? –xeno (talk) 17:51, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Well, being the champion of {{2ndchance}}, I expect you understand Wikipedia's tolerance for prodigal sons more than most. For my part, I am of an even more forgiving persuasion. the skomorokh 17:54, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- ah gotcha... well it seems he used up his 2nd chance? –xeno (talk) 17:51, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- I am not a great subscriber to the brother theory; it seems from the same stable as "dog ate my homework". I was thinking more along these lines. If a former sockmaster goes on a vandal spree, there may be unblocked sock accounts lying around. BBHS, and all his brothers, should be restricted to User talk:BBHS, I think. the skomorokh 17:46, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- no problem. though, if the brother thing is true then checkuser would only reveal they're in the same household. =) it wouldn't be able to verify if it's actually the brother or the guy "going a little loopy" and doing some vandalism. –xeno (talk) 17:40, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- I think that makes sense, but still leaves the sock/alternate accounts; it appears they are SUL accounts anyway, but both have been used for editing. If an unblock request is successful, there's no reason for these to stay blocked, as long as they are used legitimately. --Rodhullandemu 17:25, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
help!
Can someone tell me how I can change the name of my entry? It currently reads "Roger howard" but all I want is "Roger Howard"- I cant work you what to do to change it!! Thanks RH —Preceding unsigned comment added by Roger TT Howard (talk • contribs) 19:46, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Adopt a user status updates
Hi, I noticed you had a bot send out requests to update adopter status to editors on the adopt-a-user adopters list. I also happened to notice that it missed at least one adopter from the list. I don't know how the bot works exactly, but I'm guessing it skipped him because User:Diligent Terrier has a bunch of formatting around his name on that list. That is just speculation on my part though. Full disclosure: about a month ago I asked him to change his status on the adoption page. That's why I noticed when he didn't get your note. I don't know if others were missed too. best, axschme (talk) 22:29, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
- It's quite possible - if there's no link to his talk page - that I would've missed it. thanks for the heads up =) –xeno (talk) 00:32, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
I r admin!!!!1!
^^! Thanks so much for nominating me for admin. I have to say I never, ever, in my wildest dreams thought it would turn out so well. (It's so weird editing PlayStation 3 and seeing an option to view some deleted edits...) Also, I can't believe you still remember all the conversation we had back in the day. heh. it seems so long ago now, but I guess it's only been like 9 months hasn't it? Well, I've got to send out about 90 more thank you notes, so I'll catch you later. Again, thank you so much for your nomination. Thingg⊕⊗ 00:09, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
- Any time my friend. I meant what I said - it's silly that I became an admin before you. Anyhow - on with the tools, you'll do fine. =) 111/0/0 ! Incredible. cheers, –xeno (talk) 00:34, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah. I still can't believe it. And I still think you should have had 100% support. Imagine the nerve: opposing one of the best admins Wikipedia has ever had... Thingg⊕⊗ 00:33, 12 October 2008 (UTC)