Talk:The Sims 3

iPhone release date in infobox

I added "iPhone OS" release date as TBA the infobox. Samurai Cerberus, you removed it. Why? -- Lyverbe (talk) 00:00, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Technicals

Don't suppose we could get some more information on the technical aspects, the engine it's running and such, or any information on how it was developed. Just something on a more technical side, as this article focuses on the in-game features too heavily. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.106.110.97 (talk) 14:16, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Old Discussions?

Ummm....what exactly happened to all the old discussions for this page? Some of them WERE still in progress. It's very rude to just go about removing discussions nilly willy as if you own this page or something! And, it's not protocal to EVER remove discussions, unless it's your userpage and you choose to do so. Keep this in mind, okay? Thanks! Johnnywalterboy (talk) 20:59, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh! I apologize! I didn't see the archive! Sorry! Wow, silly me! Again, sorry! Johnnywalterboy (talk) 21:00, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Still, the archives should have been done better than just a complete move/rename of the talk page. When I do them, I only archive the topics that haven't been touched for at least a month. We also lost the history. Not neat. -- Lyverbe (talk) 23:50, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

When I archive a page, I always take the current content and cut & paste it to an archive page. Archiving in-progress conversations shouldn't be done, however. The history can still be accessed. It's right here on this page. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 01:32, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

As long as everything still exists in one form or another, I think the current talk page is fine. Most of the archived discussions were resolved anyway. 75.28.55.71 (talk) 05:53, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Build & Buy modes

I have recently added information about the new user-interface design. I thought it might be a good idea to add the picture of the dining category that was posted in The Sims 3 Community Blog http://thesims3.ea.com/view/pages/blog.jsp?author=Feisal%20Maroof#BuildandBuyModeDeveloperBlog because it would help the reader to better-understand the information on this artilce on the second paragraph of Build and Buy mode.

I can't do it due to the fact that im not a user can someone plese upload this. Plus this picture is more important and needed than the picture of the rally outside Town Hall that was on this article a while ago.--124.177.188.254 (talk) 00:11, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

in-game info? citation needed still?

How does all this "Citation Needed" business work when the game is released? How do you provide a ref for something that is in the game but not on web pages? Do you provide a ref saying in-game? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.182.224.50 (talk) 15:28, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately I believe you cannot use the primary material as a source so you won't be able to use it as a reference. However I imagine once the game has been released, everything that is important to know regarding in-game features will be on the Sims 3 official website. I imagine you could also use the game guide as that should contain everything you need to know as well. Dark verdant (talk) 16:01, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Maxis involvement

I'm a little surprised that this article doesn't mention why it's being developed by EA Redwood Shores rather than Maxis. Is there any known reason? (Other than Spore.) RobertM525 (talk) 20:20, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Take a look in the archives. This issue has been discussed many times in different sections. -- Lyverbe (talk) 14:57, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Wants and Fears...

Saw this in the gameplay section... "The Want and Fear system of The Sims 2 is replaced by Wants and Fears." I think that could do with rewording/clearing up! Does anyone know what the wants and fears system is replaced by, or is there a better way of putting it/explaining it if it's actually the same? Pheebalicious (talk) 22:01, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

It's replaced by wishes. A Sim will have wishes appear as they go about their daily business. It might be something small, like they see their neighbour's TV and wish for a better TV. It might be something bigger, like a wish to marry a certain Sim. The player can then fulfil the wish, and the Sim will get a small positive moodlet.

The player can also choose to "promise" to fulfil a wish. If they fulfil a promised, the Sim will still get a positive moodlet, and they will also earn Lifetime Happiness Points. However, if the player fails to fulfil a promise, the Sim will get a negative moodlet.

So while there is no penalty for failing to fulfil a wish, there is a penalty for failing to fulfil a promise.

For a better explanation, see: http://thesims3.ea.com/view/pages/blog.jsp?author=Lyndsay%20Pearson#WishesandLifetimeHappiness Tinkerbell1987 (talk) 23:42, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Release date TBA?

I don't think it's accurate at this stage to describe the release date as TBA. The EA UK site never had the release date added to the page, but the only official word regarding the date straight from EA is the 20th August news article. Also, on another official EA Sims 3 site advertisement 2 of 9 on the front page still shows a release date of 20/2/09, with less than a month to go before the release date. I'm aware that there has been much speculation regarding the release date today, sparked by the following comment:

"We are currently evaluating the launch window. The game looks great and in the near future we'll have more information."

This comment has appeared on some gaming news sites, but none of them seem to cite a source. Some say it was a "statement" issued by EA, but they do not say who issued the statement, and I couldn't find it anywhere other than this handful of gaming news sites (for example, it does not appear on EA's press site). The uncertainty should be discussed in this article (which I am unable to edit), but I think to change the release date in the right column until the information actually comes from EA is to repeat what is, for now, just a rumour.

Tinkerbell1987 (talk) 23:26, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

The UK site had the release date. It was changed to TBA this weekend. I rather go with the latest official changes than old news. Of course, if I'm alone thinking this way, bring it back to Feb. 20 until we have another official press release or something. -- Lyverbe (talk) 00:09, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

I can't edit the page, and the release date says 2/20/08, not 2/20/09 as it should be. Can someone change this? --Koyo123 01:52, 27 January 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Koyo123 (talk • contribs)

Mesaana: "Added release date. Confirmed by official EA website." The source I provided was also from an official EA website, and it said TBA. My argument is as good as yours. I'm wondering how old news makes it better than recent news? -- Lyverbe (talk) 03:07, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Richard: EA's website http://www.eagames.co.uk/game/the-sims-3/ says TBA, http://thesims3.ea.com/ says 2009, the 20th Feb date stems from a 20th August 2008 press release, and until recently that was accurate, but when all the EA sites have now taken down that date and replaced with it TBA/2009, since that is much more recent than the 20th Feb release date announcement I don't think listing it as being released then is correct. 86.160.126.231 (talk) 09:52, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

{{editsemiprotected}}—Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.247.229.148 (talk • contribs) 00:08, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

The {{editsemiprotected}} template is for making specific requests; if this refers to the request by 86.160.126.231 above, that change has now been made. —Snigbrook 20:53, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Okay, here it is from the official The Sims 3 website. The release date is Feb 20th. Does this count or has it been refuted somehow? I think if they changed their minds, they would've taken it down. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 18:01, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

TBA and Delay Settling

I have edited the Release Date to 'TBA' because as of now, nobody is sure that the date is even in February or further.

And I have added that the 'Debate settling' meeting will be held on the 3rd of February after it is settled a new date will be displayed in place of TBA --Erhama (talk) 17:06, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

I removed some of this text - the wording is speculative and unencyclopedic. Achromatic (talk) 17:40, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Meeting? What meeting? Who, where, what time? I agree with Achromatic as to the removal of the speculative text. However, I'm not sure that the date is correct. In one edit, he said Amazon lists the release date. While that is verifiable (though he didn't ref it), they are probably basing their release date on erroneous information too. EA is the only ref we can really trust on this one, and it sounds like they're being mum. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 17:42, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

I totally agree. People write all kinds of date coming from anywhere. If I need to trust either Amazon or the official site, call me crazy, but I'll go with the official site. Currently, the official site says TBA. There shouldn't even be a debate regarding the release date. -- Lyverbe (talk) 17:47, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

The "meeting" is EA's quarterly conference call with shareholders. It is likely that they will discuss things likely to impact on their profits in the next quarter - for example, the delay of a major game such as The Sims 3. EA have not specified whether they will confirm the release date in that meeting, although it seems likely. It is all rather speculative, but I do still feel that without an announcement from EA to the contrary, the only accurate "official" release date is the one which was set in August in a press release. Tinkerbell1987 (talk) 19:16, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

And, as I stated above, Feb 20th is still on their The Sims 3 website here. If they changed it, I think they would've taken it down. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 19:50, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

The 20th February date is still on that page, but it's a news item, only intended to be correct when it was published, so I don't expect (and wouldn't want) it to be updated with new information. —Snigbrook 20:53, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

I've searched several reliable sources, including the Sims 3 official site, and they all list February 20, 2009 as the release date for the game. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Madsmaddie2 (talk • contribs) 01:53, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

I've gone on the Official Site and it reads "comming in 2009!" Where on the site is February 20th 2009? What section? http://thesims3.ea.com/view/pages/ce_preorder.jsp - States dates about terms and conditions of the Colectors Edition. But nothing about February 20th I've found.--60.231.215.37 (talk) 08:08, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Found it. http://thesims3.ea.com/view/pages/newsItem.jsp?item=346181212 - That is from a long time ago. Still, if the developers felt they needed more time then they would have taken it down.--60.231.215.37 (talk) 08:13, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

This was addressed above by Snigbrook: "it's a news item, only intended to be correct when it was published, so I don't expect (and wouldn't want) it to be updated with new information." If it really were the 20th, I don't think EA would be so coy about the actual release date: that's not good marketing. EA knows marketing. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 13:56, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Ben Bell (Executive Producer) recently said "February 2009" @ http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=8o4P-ss7_70 ten seconds in. This vedio is very recent.--121.220.192.146 (talk) 17:00, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Video is recent because it was posted on Jan 24th? That doesn't make it new news! There's a difference between "posting" and "recording" time. It could have been recorded six months ago, so yeah, he could have said "Feb. 2009", but it could be old news. -- Lyverbe (talk) 02:46, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Even if you're maintaining that the date has not officially been changed to TBA, I doubt anyone could deny that the date IS in question right now, and we're all waiting for an announcement to settle the matter. (In other words, waiting for it To Be Announced. See what I did there?) Hopefully such an announcement will come on Monday. Also, using a news release that's clearly dated August 2008 as evidence that the date has not been changed in the last few weeks is ridiculous. Propaniac (talk) 18:32, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

EA are not confirming a Release Date until they are 100% sure its ready for production, they have said "20th February 2009" but that was last year, and EA think there could be a delay - EA will confirm if there is/isnt a delay later today 2pm (PST). DJBoddington (talk) 14:54, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Looks like a delay has been confirmed on EA's press site. They have The Sims 3 pegged for June 09: http://www.ea.gamespress.com/ - I think this now counts as an "official" enough source to put this on the page, if somebody able to edit it would do so? Tinkerbell1987 (talk) 17:20, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Funny, I don't see anything on that page about The Sims 3. Could you provide a more direct link (instead of to the aggregate page)? — Frecklefσσt | Talk 17:31, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

They've changed it again. It said June 2009: The Sims 3 in the left column when I posted that, but now they've taken that information down. I'm sure the information will reappear later on, it was probably just posted too soon. Tinkerbell1987 (talk) 18:06, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

The ship date (not release date) is now officially 2nd June 09. Check here on the official site: http://thesims3.ea.com/view/pages/news.jsp?month=2&year=2009 Tinkerbell1987 (talk) 19:43, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Yep, it's official. (And pardon me while I sob about having to wait another FOUR MONTHS before this game that was supposed to be out in SEVENTEEN DAYS. I'm heartbroken.) Propaniac (talk) 19:48, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

That's official enough for me. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 19:49, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

That news page isn't showing any text for me, besides the layout, images, etc. Gary King (talk) 20:58, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, looks like it's broken right now. Try back in a couple of hours. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 21:01, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Okay, now their website is completely broken. I assume this news is really disappointing a lot of people, including myself. Gary King (talk) 21:03, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

If the EA press release isn't working, a Google News Alert search for "Sims 3" will come up with several articles posted this afternoon about the release date change. Propaniac (talk) 01:39, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

The release date is June 02 2009 http://www.thesims3.net , not June 05 2009. Someone has also locked this? 23:20, 4 February 2009(UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thesims3expert (talk • contribs)

Xbox 360 and PS3 ports

I belive the Xbox 360 and PS3 ports are TBA, so I will list them aswell as PC and iPhone. mcjakeqcool Mcjakeqcool (talk) 14:58, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

You didn't cite any reference that states that there will be Xbox 360 and PS3 ports. We need a valid, reliable reference to make such a statement. At this point, really only EA is an authority on this, not blogs, Sims fansites, etc. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 16:03, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Misspelt surname in reference

The following is listed as a reference: "9. ^ a b Broham, Steve (18 July 2008). "The Sims 3: First Preview". The Sims Resource. http://www.thesimsresource.com/article/sims3. Retrieved on 28 November 2008." This guy's name is Steve Bonham, not Broham, as you can see on The Sims Resource staff page: http://www.thesimsresource.com/helpcenter/staff . Could somebody correct that? Tinkerbell1987 (talk) 20:36, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Done. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 20:56, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

New Box Art

The new, official box art can be found here: [1]

found directly from EA website ([2]) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maleheffer (talk • contribs) 22:13, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

SIMS 3 New Realease date In NJ

Well The Sims 3 To My Knowledge Is Being Released February 16th Because OF The Website http://www.gamecrazy.com/games/game.aspx?id=13740&LF=STL So Check it Out um Don't Believe This http://thesims3.ea.com/view/pages/newsItem.jsp?item=1183392783 It Says It SHIPS WORLDWIDE ON JUNE 2ND IF YOU LIVE IN THE NJ AREA THEN IT IS BEING RELEASED FEB 16 2009