Talk:Calgary

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Peer review request

I've submitted a Peer review request, please add comments at Wikipedia:Peer review/Calgary/archive1.--Qyd 18:27, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

workforce by industry table?

Should a table be included in the economy section?

Industry	Workforce	Distribution(%)
Agriculture	4,300	0.7
Forestry, Fishing, Mining and Oil & Gas	41,500	6.4
Utilities	3,700	0.6
Construction	56,500	8.7
Manufacturing	46,600	7.2
Retail Trade	71,700	11.0
Wholesale Trade	25,700	4.0
Transportation and Warehousing	46,300	7.1
Finance, Insurance, Real Estate and Leasing	41,300	6.4
Professional, Scientific and Technical Services	71,700	11.0
Business, Building and Other Support Services	24,400	3.8
Educational Services	39,900	6.1
Health Care and Social Assistance	59,900	9.2
Information, Culture and Recreation	31,400	4.8
Accomodation and Food Services	36,900	5.7
Other Services	26,900	4.1
Public Administration	17,900	2.8
Total	649,300	100.0

• This data comes from Calgary Economic Development (2005). "Labour Force / Employment". Retrieved 2007-03-09.. It should be condensed maybe? --Qyd 18:30, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Is this a fairly standard breakdown by category? One thing that is a minor annoyance on Wikipedia for me is the lack of standardization across articles. One thing I like to do is compare similar article pages for slightly different things. eg: compare the Vancouver article to the Calgary article to the Saskatoon article ... If I was a brave enough editor, I would sit down and try to match up the sections and the order (keeping in mind that some article subjects have unique characteristics (it would be useless to talk about the Float Plane industry in Calgary for example)). Anyway, given that your source is the Calgary Economic Development authority, if you do insert it, it might be worth taking a look at other cities labour force breakdown to ensure similar categories. just my two cents. Thomas Dzubin _Talk 19:32, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't like that many categories either, that was just the data at the source; it would probably be more usefull with fewer types (Industry, agriculture, services, retail, administration maybe). --Qyd 23:29, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

2001 data

Economy
Rate	Calgary	Alberta	Canada
Employment	73.9%	71.6%	63.4%
Unemployment rate	3.1%	3.5%	6.1%
Participation rate	76.3%	74.1%	67.5%
Average male earnings	$45,306	$40,797	$38,347
Average female earnings	$26,573	$23,218	$24,390

Industry
Industry	Calgary	Alberta
Agriculture	31,820	184,105
Manufacturing	82,385	264,940
Trade	82,910	258,740
Finance	33,605	84,335
Health and education	131,145	316,265
Business services	131,145	316,265
Other services	86,125	314,545
Total	521,675	1,681,985

This table uses census 2001 data, would be nice to have the 2006 profiles. (the layout is borrowed from Dawson Creek, British Columbia, and other communities in the BC Peace River country use this kind of tables)--Qyd 17:04, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I like it. Nice & succinct. Thomas Dzubin _Talk 22:17, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

I ended up using just rates (%) for employment by industry, using the 2001 numbers, as StatCan will release the 2006 labor statistics only in 2008.--Qyd 14:36, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Article pictures

Since, as the saying goes, "A picture is worth a thousand words" ...

a recent edit to Calgary by Cszmurlo (talk) replaced Downtown_Calgary_2.jpg with Calgary-Dawn-Szmurlo.jpg,

Shouldn't changes like this be discussed on the [Talk:Calgary] page before the picture is changed in the article? Note: I'm not a photographer, but even though the 2003 picture is four years old, I actually think it looks better than the 2007 one (more "dynamic range"... lots of greens AND red tones in the 2003 picture while the 2007 one has a distinct overall reddish hue to it). Yeah, I know I could revert the last edit, but I'd like to see a bit of discussion because they're both good pictures, but I think the original one was just a little bit better. Thomas [User:Dzubint (talk)] 18:06, 8 April 2007 (UTC) That is not a chinook arch. The picture is facing east, making this impossible. It is simply a line of clouds. 138.32.235.36 09:49, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Proposal for site addition

Hello,

I do not know if this is the right place to put this but I wanted to ask for you permission, I run an informational blog on Calgary real estate, If it is possible to be included in the links section of this wiki that would be great. I would also like to congratulate all of you for the excellent information that you have provided, the website is www.calgaryrealestatedirect.com for your review.

If I have posted this in error please accept my apologies.

Mark Thompson —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.146.110.129 (talk) 08:16, 10 May 2007 (UTC).

The link you propose is one to a commercial website, the kind of link that is stronlgly discouraged in wikipedia, see WP:EL and WP:NOT. Thanks. --Qyd 23:41, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. It shouldn't go into the article here. However it would be quite acceptable to add it to http://calgary.wikia.com/, in fact I would encourage you to add a small article on Calgary real estate there complete with your link. -- Derek Ross | Talk 03:22, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Olympics

'One of the world's fastest ice skating rinks was built to accomadate these game.'

This part makes no sense. It's like saying 'these shoes are fast'. You can't have a fast ice skating rink. It depends on how fast the person's going. Unless that phrase means the rink was built quickley. --TelusFielder

That's not true...ice can be more or less slippery. The air from the altitude also gives less restriction due to it being thinner than closer to sea level. It's why olympians come here to train for all sorts of sports. The altitude of the city makes a huge difference. Same thing happens in the US in Colorado. Alot of athletes go there for the same reason. A good example of how fast ice is can be found in curling. In curling its a major part of the game to be able to figure out how fast the ice is so you throw the stone with the proper amount of force. --Djsasso 04:38, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

NPOV issues

Although this article is very good in parts, I've tagged a number of sections which clearly contain a lot of opinion that is unsuitable for an encyclopaedia. Please refer to WP:NPOV. Secondly, too much weasel words appear trying to make the city look overly fantastic.Michellecrisp 07:53, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

The citation requests are most welcome, they help bullet-proofing the article. The {{unballanced}} tags in some sections are in no way helpful, they add nothing to the quality of the page (that is true for any GA or FA article). You can raise any NPOV issues on the talk page, without runining the eventual reading experience. I've tried to reduce the number of headings, as to have as few interruptions as possible for the reader (the Canada article layout was a model), so I really hate to see the page fragmented again with one-sentence paragraphs. I'm inclined to revert all your edits, and it would be a pitty, as you obviously put some work in it. Please address these issues. --Qyd 02:22, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

it's not about ruining the reading experience, tags are there for a reason, in other sites I'm asked to specifically point out in the text where things are unbalanced.it's about improving the article, that's the primary reason for tags. it may look "ugly" to you but it's necessary. why else does Wikipedia offer these templates. revert all my edits? that's quite a threat everything I have edited has a clear defensible reason, when I first looked at the article it had major NPOV flaws in some sections and quite of bit of superflous information. Michellecrisp 02:27, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

These templates are for articles and issues where consensus couldn't be reached through discussions, as to warn readers of outstanding concerns. Indeed, they look ugly to me, and I can't imageine who finds them pretty. Improving the article can and should be done by imporving the text, not by slapping tags. Reverting was not a threat, it was an impulse (which i'm containing) caused by the look of the page. My request would be that you reconsider the tag avalanche and extra headings. The citation requests, as I said earlier, are a welcome. --Qyd 02:42, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Examples of clear violation on NPOV "Voters appeared to have been angry over Premier Ed Stelmach's dismissal of booming Calgary's struggles to deal with everything from traffic gridlock to soaring rents and house prices." doesn't that seem to be a lopsided opinion of a dissatisfied citizen? the use of "appeared to" is very weasel words. "lukewarm support for his leadership" lukewarm is not a clearly defined nor neutral word. Michellecrisp 02:34, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

It does appear, indeed. While the wording can definitely be improved, the statemant seems nevertheless true, I got the same feelings by watching the news (consider the surprise in the last by-election). Yes, better words can be found, citations can be provided. No need still for ugly tags defacing the page though. --Qyd 02:42, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

tags can be put by anyone at anytime, in fact the unbalanced tag states "An editor has expressed concern that this article" so I'm doing a job as an editor. it's not defacing. if it's defacing complain to Wikipedia about the look of those tags. don't complain to me. it's about the process of improving articles. I will happily remove the tags once the sections are worded better. the alternative is that I just remove offending text. you choose. Michellecrisp 02:47, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Remove the offending text. Again, the tags are to be used if issues are not resolved through discussion. I find it that these tags are more offending then the actual text in this particular case. --Qyd 03:04, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

I have removed the section tags now and offending text. Michellecrisp 03:15, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Crime Spree 2007

The media and even the police are now recognizing the current crime spree Calgary has suffered since the end of July as something out of the ordinary. I think it should be referenced somewhere in here. 68.146.47.196 04:20, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

I strongly disagree. That is a current event... it's news, it's not encyclopedic. It's also based on media reports which are usually sensationalized when they are of that nature. I think information of that sort becomes encyclopedic when it becomes the trend or the norm, and when harder data is available for reference. Anomalous statistical information such as a sudden and quite possibly temporary crime spree should be left out I think. --Arch26 05:53, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

That's true. At the moment it's "shock, horror" but in a year's time it's likely to be "ho-hum". -- Derek Ross | Talk 18:09, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Care to reasses that opinion, Mezmo the Magnificent? In light of the recent wave of violence a year later? :-) 139.48.25.61 (talk) 20:05, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

protection

It seems that this page is targeted by a group determined to insert some commercial website link (CalgaryEh). The edits have come from anonymous IP's, some from dynamic addresses. Is becomes really time consuming to revert this changes. Should the page be semi-protected for a while? --Qyd 19:59, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Well we could. but we normally only do that when the situation becomes really bad and I don't think that we've reached that stage yet. How about suggesting that the anon IP adds an article together with their link to the Calgary Wiki where it would be much more appropriate. -- Derek Ross | Talk 21:05, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

That would be an option. Here's a list of spammers, if you consider it's worth a try: 202.131.95.34 (talk · contribs), 65.254.224.23 (talk · contribs), 198.103.162.158 (talk · contribs), 68.145.245.212 (talk · contribs), 72.25.227.103 (talk · contribs). --Qyd 23:13, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Well I got an admin to block the 198 IP...perhaps we could pass on the rest to the admins. --Djsasso 23:27, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough. I can see that it's been particularly bad the last couple of days. I'm not particularly keen on banning the addresses as they are sometimes used by groups of unrelated subscribers who happen to have the same ISP as the spammer but I will semi-protect the page for a week and see how that goes. If the problem restarts at the end of a week we'll up it to a month. -- Derek Ross | Talk 04:11, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

John Glenn Link

First, apologies if I have put this subject/heading in the wrong area.

Can some please fix the broken link for John Glenn. Currently the link is pointing to: ^7. Historical Bow Valley Ranche. Bow Valley Pioneers. Retrieved on 2007-01-16.

This site has been down for several months. My recommendation is:

Alberta Government - Fish Creek History - http://tprc.alberta.ca/parks/fishcreek/glenns.asp

Thanks Trailmix1234 05:49, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Done, thanks for pointing it out. --Qyd 16:34, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Citation Box

I tried to insert a citation box to the Calgary article. It didn't work out. I don't know what adjustments need to be made to it to incorporate all the reference notes.

However, I did put one in for the Winnipeg article and it seems okay. Is this is a suitable way of condensing the notes section? Thanks. jdobbin 16:39, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Climate Graph

I have created a climate graph for Calgary, located here. Numbers are rounded, readers can click the source link to see exact numbers.

The climate graph has been a little project of mine and I encourage feedback to continue to improve these graphs. :) Thanks.

More here.

vid 00:18, 12 September 2007 (UTC) vid 05:59, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Looks good, I like it. --Qyd 04:50, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. :) Also, there is a weather template (here) that looks better than the picture you're using now, but is not scalable. It is in English, though. :) vid 23:12, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

GA on hold

This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force in an effort to ensure all listed Good articles continue to meet the Good article criteria. In reviewing the article, I have found there are some issues that may need to be addressed.

• Image:1988 wolympics logo.png needs a fair use rationale

 Done Removed image.

• Please provide citations for these statements:
  • "Originally named Fort Brisebois, after NWMP officer Éphrem-A Brisebois, it was renamed Fort Calgary in 1876 because of questionable conduct on the part of that officer."

 Done rephrased, added ref

• • "Fort Calgary was named by Colonel James Macleod after Calgary (Cala-ghearraidh, Beach of the pasture) on the Isle of Mull, Scotland."

 Done

• • "Calgary was officially incorporated as a town in 1884 and elected its first mayor, George Murdoch. In 1894, Calgary became the first city in what was then the Northwest Territories."

 Done Rephrased, added ref

• • "Calgary's elevation is approximately 1,048 metres (3,440 ft) above sea level downtown, and 1,083 metres (3,553 ft) at the airport. The city proper covers a land area of 721 square kilometres (278 sq mi) (as of 2001) and as such exceeds the land area of Toronto."

 Done added statcan ref (the same source gives 630.18 km2 for Toronto, compared with 726.50km2 for Calgary).

• • "The Calgary Economic Region includes slightly more area than the CMA and has a population of 1,146,900."
  • "The Beltline is the focus of major planning and rejuvenation initiatives on the part of the municipal government to increase the density and liveliness of Calgary's centre."

 Done added ref

• • Most sentences in the climate section.
  • "It is also starting to become recognized as one of Canada's most diverse cities."
  • "it is referred to by some as the "Nashville of the North.""
  • "Southern Alberta Jubilee Auditorium, a 4 million ft³ (113,000 m³) performing arts, culture and community facility"
  • "The 2,700-seat auditorium was opened in 1957"

 Done exact number, reference added

• • "At 2.5 acres (1.01 ha), the Devonian Gardens is one of the largest urban indoor gardens in the world"

 Done reference added

• • "After 1980, during the recession caused by dropping oil prices and the National Energy Program, many highrise construction projects were immediately halted."
  • "The tallest of these (the Petro-Canada Centre), is the tallest office tower in Canada outside of Toronto."

 Done - I added the reference from the Petro-Canada Towers article, HOWEVER, 1250 René-Lévesque in Montreal claims to be 226m. That is not entirely true -- According to Skyscraperpage, the roof of Petro-Can is taller than 1250, even though 1250's spire is taller than the pinnacle of Petro-Can. You might want to figure a way to add that to the article. 1000 de La Gauchetière (SSP) is recognized as the tallest in Montreal, as it's roof is several metres higher than 1250. Vidioman 21:27, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

• • "To connect many of the downtown office buildings, the city also boasts the world's most extensive skyway network (elevated indoor pedestrian bridges), officially called the +15. The name derives from the fact that the bridges are usually 15 feet above grade."

 Done reference added.

• • "The Reform Party was founded in Calgary."
  • "results of the 2004 federal election where they achieved 7.5% of the vote across the city and 11.3% in the Calgary North Centre riding."
  • "54% of the budget is spent for wages of the 13,043 city employees and expeditures."

Fact documented in previous reference.

• • "All eight of Calgary's federal MPs are members of the Conservative Party of Canada (CPC). "

 Done reference added

• • "28,807 students are enrolled there."

 Done added year + ref

• • "beginning with the assignment of a squadron of Strathcona's Horse."
  • "After many failed attempts to create the city's own unit, the 103rd Regiment (Calgary Rifles) was finally authorized on 1 Apr 1910."
  • "it was decommissioned in 1998, when most of the units moved to the Edmonton Canadian Forces base."

I will check back in no less than seven days. If progress is being made and issues are addressed, the article will remain listed as a Good article. Otherwise, it may be delisted (such a decision may be challenged through WP:GA/R). If improved after it has been delisted, it may be nominated at WP:GAC. Feel free to drop a message on my talk page if you have any questions. Regards, Epbr123 20:05, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Started to go through the list item by item. It might take some time to comb them all. --Qyd 18:36, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Personally as I mentioned below, I think the demographics section would hold this article back from being a good article. While within "policy", it certainly doesn't paint a true picture of calgary today. If an updated source can't be found, I almost think the article would be better without it.--Crossmr 02:37, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

If an updated source can't be found, I almost think the article would be better without it.

Then you might as well end all other Canadian city article's GA status, as they all use the same out-of-date source. Apart from using an unofficial (therefore unacceptable to Wiki standards) source, we have no choice but to go with StatsCan until 2 April, 2008 when ethnicity data for 2006 is released. vıdıoman (talk • contribs) 06:12, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Not all cities are Calgary. if a cities population hasn't grown dramatically or changed significantly then it doesn't matter. However calgary has had huge growth. And outdated information doesn't serve this article. Official or not we have to recognize that in the case of this article the time has made a difference. Other articles will have to debate the continued relevance of 6 year old statistics on their own. In this case I don't think a good article on Calgary should include this kind of outdated information.--Crossmr 02:41, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Then Calgary cannot be a good article until 2 April, 2008 when that information is released. vıdıoman (talk • contribs) 03:03, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

I think it very well should have this info in it. All you need to do is have a qualifying sentence added that mentions that there has been rapid growth since the last census and cite that. Trying to say it should lose its GA status just because of the impossibility of a current population statistic is just being rediculous and trying to cause a stir. --Djsasso 03:06, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

I have decided to pass the article, as the remaining issues aren't major enough to warrant delisting. Epbr123 01:03, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Demographics

These demographics I think are horribly out of date. While 2001 seems to be the latest statscan, is there another source? 6 years in a city like calgary is an eternity. It seems strange that the 2006 census seemed to cover only about 1/2 of what the 2001 did.--Crossmr 02:35, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

The full set of statistics will be released in 2008 (summer). Religion was not covered in the Canada 2006 Census. --Qyd 03:37, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Why is it that the table for ethnic composition of Calgary adds to more than 100%?--Nakedophelia (talk) 21:53, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Possibly due to multiple responses (see reference). --Qyd (talk) 22:19, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

The introduction gives the 2007 population for the city but the Demographics section lists the figure for 2006. These should be the same; i.e., use the 2007 (or latest figures) in both places. The ethnic orgins table is outdated and even the numbers listed don't match up with the 2001 census figures on Stats Can's website. The 2006 figures are out and they are quite different. Either people are lying on the census forms or whomever put in the 2001 figures here screwed up. The percentages also seem wrong and I'm not talking about the multiple response issue. Since these figures are questionable (Statistics Canada should be embarrassed for even asking this question without a better way for controlling responses) the table should be deleted. Giving non-Calgarians the impression that over 10% of the city has French origins is very misleading. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.146.2.138 (talk) 05:33, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

infobox photo

Not that the photo isn't up to the usual high standards of the uploader, but isn't the Calgary Tower iconic of the city and a natural for a skyline photo? Also, why one with dead trees when a summer photo would be more attractive? I realize Wikipedia is not a travel advertisement, but...139.48.25.61 (talk) 22:01, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

I switched Image:CalNight.jpg with Image:Calgary-Dawn-Szmurlo.jpg (one in the infobox, the other in Attractions). --Qyd (talk) 15:23, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Sister city

I added Sarajevo as an officiel sister city of Calgary, but without knowing the date... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.203.197.107 (talk) 20:30, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately its not an official sister city. Sister Cities. -Djsasso (talk) 20:38, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Ok, thanx for the link —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.203.197.107 (talk) 16:21, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Calgary's Communities

"The inner city is, in turn, surrounded by relatively dense and established neighbourhoods such as Rosedale and Mount Pleasant to the north; Bowness, Parkdale and Glendale to the west; Park Hill, South Calgary (including Marda Loop), Bankview, Altadore and Killarney to the south; and Forest Lawn/International Avenue to the east. " This makes it sound like these communities all form the second ring of neighbourhoods around the downtown core - but Mt. Pleasant is walking distance from downtown, while Bowness and Forest Lawn would be more of a half-day hike. Maybe more should be said about the suburban communities within Calgary, or just taken Bowness and Forest Lawn out of this paragraph altogether (they still have a mention in the next paragraph, after all)?

Inner city is considered (at least by realtors) the area defined as Calgary up to 1961, before a major expansion. Lands added after that have typical suburban developments, while the mentioned neighbourhoods are distinct old style, with grid streets, mostly bungalows. Forest Lawn and Bowness existed at that time (hence the confusion), but were separate towns, annexed in 1961 and 1963 respectively. They should not be considered inner city, even though they have similar urbanism and architecture as the inner city neighbourhoods. --Qyd (talk) 03:30, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Pop Culture References

I hate articles that throw Pop Culture references in and then provide lenghty quotes to justify them. This is in support of the notion that Calgary was referenced in "MASH" and "ST:TNG". The ST reference was in the episode "The First Duty" - Wesley Crusher mentions Calgary explicitly by discussing a fellow cadet who went there on leave. In a MASH episode, Major Winchester describes sheets of carbon paper as looking like they "went through the Calgary Stampede!" This is all far too trivial to mention in the article itself, probably too trivial to mention in a footnote even.139.48.25.61 (talk) 17:46, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps to trivial to mention at all? Who really cares that Calgary was mentioned in Star Trek? Other than die-hard Trekkers, I mean. --Phant (talk) 02:38, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

On a related note, who cares what some dude namedPhantasee thinks. The cascading revelations of this line of logic stagger the imagination. 139.48.25.61 (talk) 17:39, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Fourth Largest CMA

I noticed in the intro of the article that Calgary was the fourth largest CMA as of 2008. The updated CMA was cited, however the ranking wasn't and I was wondering if the claim was based off of a comparison of Calgary's 2008 CMA and Ottawa-Gatineau's 2006 CMA. I couldn't find Ottawa-Gatineau's 2008 CMA, can anyone either verify or disprove this claim? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.100.202.239 (talk) 03:43, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

i fixed it i put it back to fifth Ottawa has not done a census since 2006 so it is most likely bigger.--Cheers Kyle1278 19:33, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.100.203.250 (talk) 00:18, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

New photos

There has been a concern regarding the photos User:Guyfrombronx has uploaded and inserted into Canadian articles. A number of fellow editors have found that Guyfrombronx has not obtained or failed to properly show the licensing required to use these images on Wikipedia or the Commons. The photos are primarily from Flickr.com and from several photographers. We also have not been able to determine if all the photos are from Flickr and could be from other sources. Due to these facts we are inclined to believe that he has obtained these images illegally and have removed them from Wikipedia articles as per WP:COPYRIGHT. Until we have confirmation that such permission to use these photos under a Common license has been granted by each photographer we will continue to remove the images. Attempts have been made to contact Guyfrombronx, and it appears they have been unsuccessful. Mkdw^talk 21:31, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

calgary climate graph?

I stumbled across this website http://www.wordtravels.com/Cities/Alberta/Calgary/Climate which has a climate graph with a July high of 25 C. I then went to environment canada's website and checked the weather data but found 23 C to not accurately reflect calgary's summer temperatures as I went through the years data and there where many july highs of 27 C as well as 23 C, but the 1971-2000 data showed an average high of 22.9 C. I was wondering if anyone would like to switch the climate source for what its worth?

yes, no? -- User:Jd.101 June 1st, 2009

Weather office data seems more reliable. --Qyd (talk) 03:20, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Agreed - I can't see a compelling reason to use Wordpress over an official source for the weather data. (As an aside, JD, I notice that you've been editing weather data for some other Canadian city articles. Did you use the Wordpress data there as well, or is it based on the official stats?) --Ckatz^chat_spy 03:31, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

-all environment canada with the exception for calgary, however I have been looking at these other sources just for entertainment purposes only. -- User:Jd.101