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Owen's Ghost
Okay, can we please not give these RIDICULOUS rumors creedance as to include them in Owen's encyclopedia article? 72.200.156.118 (talk) 01:20, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Amen to that. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. 137.14.10.22 (talk) 18:04, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Max Mini
Does anyone have any proof that Max Mini was supposed to be lowered to the ring with Owen? It has been said that the reason for the quick release rigging was for Owen to perform a prat fall into the ring. So if the plan was for Owen to fall (a relatively short distance), why would they have Owen (a 250 pound man) fall 10 feet (the reported height of the planned fall) onto a midget wrestler he was holding? But then again nothing about the event makes any sense.Ganley89416:10 11 September 2006 (EDT)
The Game
The stuff aboot Owen being the Game. Is this documented anywhere or just rumour?(Halbared 08:17, 22 June 2006 (UTC))
Is there any reliable source for the claim that HHH's nickname "The Game" was originally meant for Owen??? I can't find any source for it on the internet except for IMDB.com which isn't all that reliable when it comes to wrestling info...
- Paul "HHH" Levesque has confirmed it in interviews.
- thats really weird. i always suspected his character was going towards being the game. being that damn good. real shame
RAW is Owen
I think it's important enough. I think we should do a wiki on RAW is Owen. --Kitch 11:06, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
Dear whom ever it may concer owen hart was a 4 time tag team champ...
Owen Hart & Yokozuna Sept. 25, 1995
Owen Hart & Yokozuna's second World Tag Team Championship reign didn't last more than an hour or so. At In Your House 3, the duo lost the titles to Diesel & Shawn Michaels, but Owen did not show up until the latter stages of the match as The British Bulldog had taken his place up to that point. Hart was pinned, but the next night on RAW, the team's lawyer, Clarence Mason, threatened legal action against WWE if the titles were not given back to Hart & Yokozuna. He stated that since Owen did not start the match, his being pinned was illegal. The titles were returned to Hart & Yokozuna, but they then defended the same titles against The Smokin' Gunns later in the evening and were beaten again, and this time the total change stuck.
- By your own explantion Owen was NOT a four time champion, Diesel & Shawn were forced to give the titles back to Owen & Yoko, they never legally won them - so Owen & Yoko never legally lost them either, it was a "Dusty Finish". This is along the lines of the Jericho/HHH title change that happened and was then undone. Unless someone disagrees it should be changed back to 3 times tag-team champion. MPJ-DK 20:09, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
I disagree with you and if you dont beleive me, then go check out WWE.com's title section and it will clearly show that Owen is a 4 time World Tag Team Champion (twice with Yoko, once with Davey Boy and once with Jarrett)220.235.113.3 (talk) 07:55, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Owen 3:16
"Owen 3:16 says 'I just broke your neck'." - I remember seeing this on t-shirts and references made on WWF TV, but did Owen actually say this? Anybody remember? Bcarlson33 14:18, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
I dunno, but it's a very memorable quote! I've been after that t-shirt for years... was it ever released for fans????
- There should probably be a part in his wrestling career mentioning the origins of the catchphrase. I don't have a direct reference, but I believe he said it to incorporate the Steve Austin incident in with his character (Hart legitimately broke Austin's neck with a botched piledriver... check the Austin page for details).208.197.234.251 20:33, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
Death
It says viewers at home didn't see the Death, but I'm quite sure they did. My father watched it, and I started watching it a minute after it happened. I was watching PPV in Canada, they weren't showing the promotions. Maybe it was different in the USA?
- In the USA they were on the crowd the whole time (they were on a seven delay and were able to edit Owen's death). OsFan 02:30, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
- I have the original pay per view on tape (A friend of mine taped it off pay per view live) and is no footage of either Owen falling nor the ring after the fall. Jim Ross introduced the video package and when it came back the camera stayed on the crowd until it was cleared. The camera then showed Jim Ross and a visibly shaken Jerry Lawler at the announce table. They introduced the video package or the next match and that was it. No footage of anything. Ganley89416:00 11 September 2006 (EDT)
- On a youtube video however, when viewers under the SAP setting to get spanish commentary were viewing the pay per view, the actual crash of owen hitting the ring can be heard, due to the Spanish commentators still being on air to translate the video. The commentators also reacted to the crash by saying "Oh no!" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.204.90.230 (talk) 02:28, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
About his death
Is the footage shown in the article is really his death? becuse some people claim the footge is a New Jack bump?
That bump was taken by Vic Grimes against New Jack in an XPW scaffold match in February 2002. Owen Hart's death was never seen on PPV. Vic729 14:24, July 10th, 2006 (EDT)
I'm reading Owen's wife's book at the moment, and it wasn't that a WWF logo was placed next to his flowers but that a WWF logo was made entirely out of flowers, which she had changed to Owen's initials. I have changed this on the page. Also, she made note that a friend's son (in Canada) was watching the pay-per-view, but did NOT see the actual death because the cameras quickly panned away in her area, as well.
- Let's clear this up once and for all:
- Owen Hart's fall was not show on the PPV broadcast. A pre-taped promo was airing on the broadcast when Owen fell from the rafters during preparation for his stunt.
- No footage of Owen in the ring after the fall was aired, due to WWE production utilizing the several-second delay in broadcasting, and keeping the live feed focused on the audience instead of the ring.
- Footage of said fall is not likely to exist anywhere outside of the WWE tape library, if such footage even exists and is viewable (since Kemper Arena had been darkened for the promo & planned stunt).
- The Over The Edge event on 23 May 1999 remains one of the few WWE PPV events that has never been legitimately released on video in any format. - Chadbryant 08:51, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
wer rt at 2233
Okay well,owen's death was just sooo graphic and well i was only 5 but i was there and i remember i just, i was dressed in blue blazer attire, and the sad thing was, there was an undertaker match that night as listed in the article my friend had a sign saying owen can rest.
in peace i havent talked to him ever since.I myself have a video containing pictures of owens harts death and the kemper arena is very dark and it had nothing to do with a scaffold at all that was a low budget XPW match Owen R.I.P
I remember reading that he died in the hospital. How does anyone know he died in the ring? Hiphopchamp 17:43, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
He was pronounced dead on arrival at the hospital so it is possible, however I think they would have known, not to sure though —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.235.113.3 (talk) 07:59, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Raw is Owen
It is written that the Undertaker was the only one not on stage on the tribute Raw following Owens death. Does anyone know why? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.69.7.10 (talk) 19:59, 4 January 2007 (UTC).
apparently wwe/wwf thought it a good idea not to have "the deadman" on stage as it may have been a bit tactless. I see thei82.16.90.25 19:09, 26 July 2007 (UTC)r point
- Is there any way of putting that in the article? Because reading it, to me at least, it came off as there being some kind of bad blood between the two or Undertaker was being disrespectful Agent452 19:49, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
- Undertaker actually went to visit Bret in-person. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 124.176.90.229 (talk) 03:14, 11 March 2007 (UTC).
Can this be changed on the Wiki page as can appear unclear to people. People who aren't big wrestling fans might misinterpret it as there being a feud between Owen and Undertaker or that they weren't friends in real life. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.110.52.117 (talk) 13:04, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
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Early professional career
Last night (7 Jun 07) on ESPN Classic in the UK they showed a tag-team bout from World Of Sport in which Dave Fit Finlay wrestled Owen Hart. The commentator, by alluding to Bret Hart, confirmed it was this Owen (besides the fact it clearly was him visually), aged 18, wrestling on national UK TV. Surely this then pre-dates the articles 1986 professional debut?? He won the preliminary bout two falls to one, with another gentleman who apparently was a Hart brother but I didn't recognise either him nor the name. Sadly apart from knowing he definitely wrestled in 1983 on World of Sport, I have no further information. VonBlade 18:10, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
The harness stunt
Was the harness stunt akin to what Shawn Michael's did at Wrestlemania or was it like what Sting used to do in WCW?
I think it would be important to point this out.
No. As publicised, Owen's death was due to the "quick-release" mechanism the WWF had installed onto the harness/wire being caught by something. Shawn Michaels & Sting had lots of safety mechanisms, but due to Vince's perfectionism, the landing of Owen's character "wasn't quite right", so they added a quick-release mechanism which only required 6lbs of pressure to release. Therefore it's totally different to those stunts. (WilkoDCFC 09:54, 3 August 2007 (UTC))
Austin + RAW is Owen
I'm asking for a verifiable source on people finding Austin's tribute controversial and Austin's alleged dislike of Owen, since Have A Nice Day! recounts an instance of Mick, Owen & Steve having a great time together after his neck injury.
Dont worry its just a nasty wrestling rumor and nothing of any substance. 220.235.113.3 (talk) 08:00, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
owen hart+debra+ jeff jarrett love storyline should we add it
should we include this in the column??? owen was due to do this storyline. but he he declined because he did not want his family to see him with another woman ((owen was a family man)) so the next idea they came up with was the blue blazer gimmick..which led to his tragic death —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fingerpokeofdoom (talk • contribs) 00:50, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- Do you have a Reliable source for this? Cause otherwise it's just a rumor and that doesn't belong on Wikipedia. MPJ-DK (talk) 05:37, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
yes it says it on the owen hart a/e video, it's on youtube but i cant find the link...never mind i'll try find it lol —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fingerpokeofdoom (talk • contribs) 01:06, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
- Youtube isn't a reliable source, due to it illegally hosting copyrighted videos. Another source is needed. Thanks, ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 23:44, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
here's the source http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JS1xgdPzjj0&feature=related dave meltzer says it at the 3 minute 40 second mark... is it going to be added
- Direct quote from the article, "During this time a storyline was proposed that Owen Hart was supposed to have an on-screen affair with Debra, something which Owen turned down, most likely because Owen was such a family man."
- It's under the "1998-1999" section, at the end of the 5th paragraph. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 23:58, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
3.16?
"Owen 3:16/I Just Broke Your Neck" - I thought it was "Owen 9:11" Speedboy Salesman (talk) 09:47, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
Wrong dates
Owen hart did not die in 1999 like this article says........i remember talking about it in art class when i was in junior high and i didnt start high school until 1998...... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Grrybrwn82 (talk • contribs) 20:12, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
Owen Hart did die in 1999. It was at the Over The Edge pay-per-view May 23, 1999 Chrissytina515 (talk) 22:43, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Inconsistencies
On this page it claims Owen hit the ropes with his chest however on the page for Over the Edge 1999 it claims he hit his head on then turnbuckle. He can't have done both so which was it? 222.155.100.110 (talk) 00:31, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, he could have done both. Chest on the turnbuckle pad which covers the corner in the ropes and head on the turnbuckle which is actually the metal peice that connects the turnbuckle pad/ropes to the turnbuckle post. Crash Underride 17:23, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Legacy
I dispute the neutrality of this section as it clearly has point of view and weasel words in it. Crash Underride 17:22, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
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