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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by 69.245.127.28 (talk) at 06:51, 3 September 2009 (→‎Depressed?: new section). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Surname

The family name Fromme is of German origin, still found in a number exceeding 1040 phone book entries in Germany which is above average, the name and families being deeptly rooted in Westphalia. The name means "the pious one" and is pronounced fʁɔm-ə (stressed on the first syllable) in IPA. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.184.38.161 (talk) 13:09, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Projected Release Date

The article and source lists a projected release date of 08/16/09–however she is serving a life sentence. Has her sentence been commuted or is this an error on the source website? Sottolacqua (talk) 15:46, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, no, and I tried to present this in the article, but someone kept undoing it [1]. If she chooses to attend her parole hearing, which she has recently refused to do, and she is granted parole, then her release date would be in August. I grew tired of fighting it. Wildhartlivie (talk) 02:43, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, she is serving a life sentence but she was sentenced BEFORE the federal government abolished parole for life sentences. The Federal Bureau of Prisons website states that her projected release date is August 16, 2009. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.106.43.63 (talk) 21:13, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

She still must attend the parole hearing and be granted parole before she would be released. If she doesn't attend, which she has refused to do in recent years, the projected release date will come and go and she will remain in prison. I cannot understand for the life of me why that is such a difficult concept to understand. She has to attend and be granted parole to be released. Wildhartlivie (talk) 23:10, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Wildhartlivie is correct. The Federal BOP Inmate Locator has shown a series of projected release dates over the years. The current projected release date indicates when Fromme is next permitted to apply for parole. If that date passes without her attending her parole hearing, a new parole hearing date is set and a new projected release date posted. Whoever is undoing Wildhartlivie's edits to this effect is in error. EastVanHalen (talk) 02:34, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
What I can't understand for the life of me is why you can't comprehend the possibility that Fromme can be released this month. Nothing suggests she needs a parole hearing this time. You and EastVanHalen are in error. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.127.200.220 (talk) 15:25, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No one has said, at any time, that there is no possibility of her being released in August. The point is that she has to attend the hearing. Meanwhile, what you removed from the article does not contradict that she could be released. It is entirely appropriate to note that she has refused to attend hearings and thus had not been released to date. You also removed the formatting to the reference that tells where it came from and what makes it a referenced note which some could see as vandalism. Again, no one is disputing the possibility of release and thus your removal of the content changes nothing except to note she has refused to attend the hearings. Wildhartlivie (talk) 19:08, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
According to http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/08/05/squeaky.fromme.release/index.html She is definitly going to be released on the 16th. Altairantares (talk) 21:44, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

loaded or not

I've read before that the weapon she pointed at Ford was not loaded. This article states: "The pistol's magazine was loaded with four rounds, but none were in the firing chamber." I'm not sure I know enough about pistols to understand what it means to have a round in the magazine but not in the firing chamber. Hopefully someoen can add some clarifying details to this section of the article. There can only be one round in the chamber at a time, right? Could she have fired this pistol if she had pulled the trigger several times? 162.6.97.3 (talk) 20:06, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If the gun was a semi-automatic (clip-fed) she would have to manually pullback the slide to load the chamber. If it was a double-action revolver, she could simply have pulled the trigger repeatedly to advance to the 1st bullet and fire. If it was a single-action revolver, she would have had to manually cock the trigger and pull, repeating the sequence until the gun advanced to the 1st round and could then fire. 216.153.214.89 (talk) 06:38, 15 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Rendered Homeless"??? Nonsense!

This is needlessly and overtly tying an adult child evicted for unruly behavior to the plight of homelessness.

As is Wikipedia's custom, all edits must be screen by Air America staff and if they're factual but not flattering of a Left-Wing icon, they're deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.245.127.28 (talk) 06:50, 3 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Depressed?

By whose diagnosis? I've not once read a qualified assessment of Fromme as depressed at 17.

The passage should be cited or deleted!