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October 20

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on October 20, 2009

King of kings7

Before I changed this to a redirect, the text of the article made it clear it was about I Love New York 2. However, I can't see how this title is a plausible redirect, so taking to Rfd. Fabrictramp | talk to me 23:34, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Template:$

Deletion request. This has been deleted before, through TFD, so it has not been deleted as a redirect. It was nominated as something else, then changed to a redirect during the debate, and then deleted. However, I feel that the reasons stated in Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2009 April 6#Template:$ apply for this redirect as well. There are many types of $, so redirecting to US (or any specific kind of) dollar represents bias (if US dollar: even systemic bias). Either way, it's preferred to specify the type of dollar in article text. Geschichte (talk) 08:47, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

en-WP's systematic bias towards US dollars is in fact codified at WP:CURRENCY, which means that US dollars are by far the most common type of dollars that en-WP will be linking to. Redirects for convenience are commonplace in templatespace, and I believe that this one is an appropriate piece of shorthand. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 09:05, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Muhammad P.B.U.H

The initials P.B.U.H. contradict these guidelines. Upon doing a WLH on this page, I found none. Besides, a search for any PBUH-inclusion proceeding the "Muhammad" search, the Wiki software will suggest Muhammad anyway. —Mr. E. Sánchez (that's me!)What I Do / What I Say 03:32, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep + Comment - just wanted to point out that the page has been viewed a lot recently (105 times in Oct, 89 times in Sep). I am somewhat bothered by the lack of a period after the final H but otherwise I don't see any harm in keeping the redirect. To me the high level of hits per month indicate the that page would likely get recreated quickly when others search for it in the future.  7  03:42, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Another comment - also considering that Muhammad PBUH (without periods) has survived since 2007 these might be reasonable search terms. The missing period at the end bugs me (R3 / implausible typo-ish) but it was not recently created so R3 is not relevant. The naming conventions cited are relevant and the name of the proper article follows those conventions, however they don't need to apply to redirects. For those who don't know (I didn't) PBUH is described here.  7  03:51, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as an apparent reasonable search term. Aiken ♫ 12:05, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as a plausible typo of a search term -- Whpq (talk) 18:41, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. I think we can apply a little WP:IAR in this case in relation to those guidelines. Helpful redirect for many.. especially Muslims. -- œ™ 00:39, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Making a point

Delete this redirect, as it is misleading since the guideline is not merely about making a point. PSWG1920 (talk) 01:44, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Herndon Elementary School

Delete and prevent re-creation, name is used in multiple places and incoming links lead to confusion. Elementary schools should be red or unlinked unless there is a notable school by that name. Unless it is famous, any notable school with this name should be specified with a city as well. Because of this and the huge number of such schools I recommend locking the name. In the alternative, redirect it to a future article Herndon Elementary School (disambiguation). The incoming links can give some idea of what would go in a dab article. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 01:32, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Tend to agree with nom, but disagree with keeping links red if they will never be turned blue. Also, I think it's appropriate for the disambiguation to stay where it is, without adding the (disambiguation) on the end. Aiken ♫ 12:07, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • There is no existing dab. Formerly this school and the other one were specific schools. Later, they were turned into redirects to that particular school's district or city/region. Later, they were moved to a more specific name, leaving these redirects behind. These redirects can be deleted, leaving redlinks throughout the project. They can also be pointed to xyz-school (disambiguation) or, as you implicitly suggest, be turned into dab articles in their own right. Any of these solutions is okay by me. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 13:51, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cook Elementary School

Delete and prevent re-creation, name is used in many places and incoming links lead to confusion. Elementary school links should be red unless there is a notable school by that name. Unless it is famous, any notable school with this name should be specified with a city as well. Because of this and the huge number of such schools I recommend locking the name. In the alternative, redirect it to a future article Cook Elementary School (disambiguation). The incoming links can give some idea of what would go in a dab article. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 01:25, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Tend to agree with nom, but disagree with keeping links red if they will never be turned blue. Also, I think it's appropriate for the disambiguation to stay where it is, without adding the (disambiguation) on the end. Aiken ♫ 12:11, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • There is no existing dab. Formerly this school and the other one were specific schools. Later, they were turned into redirects to that particular school's district or city/region. Later, they were moved to a more specific name, leaving these redirects behind. These redirects can be deleted, leaving redlinks throughout the project. They can also be pointed to xyz-school (disambiguation) or, as you implicitly suggest, be turned into dab articles in their own right. Any of these solutions is okay by me. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 13:50, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

T:ITNBOX and other Template redirects


Cross-namespace redirect; essentially orphaned, harder to transclude than the template itself (would need to use an extra character to transclude mainspace pages). –Drilnoth (T • C • L) 01:20, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note - Multiple T: RFDs grouped together as they will likely share the same fate.  7  02:04, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep - it's used as a shortcut when one wants to get to the template (for reference) from the search box (see here). It is not meant to be a shorthand way to transclude the template. Whereas the interface will automatically redirect something like WP:UAA to Wikipedia:UAA, the same is not true for templates. There are others out there as well (more)  7  01:46, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Just didn't get a chance to nominate all of them tonight; I'll wait on the others for the outcome of this discussion. Anyway, it is worth noting that some of these (like T:TT) aren't used at all according to page view stats, and those that are used are still no more than maybe 10 hits a month. –Drilnoth (T • C • L) 01:59, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete since this now pops up at the UAA edit window, making it unnecessary for those most likely to use it. Daniel Case (talk) 02:05, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I see your point, but by that argument T:AIV should also be deleted. I guess I am just thinking that it never hurts to have a shortcut to help you reference a page... and I would go so far as to say that T: could be added to the interface as a automatic redirect to Template: for all pages.  7  02:24, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think that T:AIV should be deleted along with the others, but as I said, I just didn't get around to nominating all of them. –Drilnoth (T • C • L) 19:23, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've only ever used T:WPTECH as a shortcut. As the template doesn't really get edited much, I don't have a particularly strong opinion on whether the redirect goes or stays. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 04:36, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep all they are shortcuts and are used as such. I don't see anything wrong with any of these... Tavix |  Talk  00:18, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Valid Pseudo-namespace redirects that should be kept unless a particular one conflicts with an article title, in which case it can just be overwritten with the article text. There's no use in nominating all of these redirects.. if one such as T:TT for example is not useful then just nominate that particular one.. most others are used often as shortcuts. Also, if we're going to start deleting these pseudo-namespaces then we should also be discussing what to do with the other ones that are also cross-namespace, such as P: for Portals, C: for categories, or H: for Help pages. -- œ™ 03:21, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Unrefsect

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was </noinclude>speedy delete by User:Rich Farmbrough CSD R2 (non admin close).<includeonly>

</includeonly><noinclude>B.Wind (talk) 05:12, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cross-namespace redirect; essentially orphaned, harder to transclude than the template itself (would need to use an extra character to transclude mainspace pages). –Drilnoth (T • C • L) 01:17, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Away with it! Speedily! Gone! Rich Farmbrough, 01:54, 20 October 2009 (UTC).[reply]
I would have done that, but it technically falls outside of R2 (which excludes redirects to project, user, and template pages, amongst other things). –Drilnoth (T • C • L) 01:56, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). This template must be substituted.

Selfref

Cross-namespace redirect; essentially orphaned, harder to transclude than the template itself (would need to use an extra character to transclude mainspace pages). –Drilnoth (T • C • L) 01:16, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

User en-hk

Cross-namespace redirect to userbox; implausible search term, orphaned. –Drilnoth (T • C • L) 01:10, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

User WP Romantic music

Cross-namespace redirect to userbox; implausible search term, orphaned. –Drilnoth (T • C • L) 01:10, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

UBX:SRY

Cross-namespace redirect to userbox; implausible search term, orphaned. –Drilnoth (T • C • L) 01:10, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

User Rotterdam

Cross-namespace redirect to userbox; implausible search term, orphaned. –Drilnoth (T • C • L) 01:09, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

User MandatorySignin

Cross-namespace redirect to userbox; implausible search term, orphaned. –Drilnoth (T • C • L) 01:09, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

User JHvW/Love

Cross-namespace redirect to userbox; implausible search term, orphaned. –Drilnoth (T • C • L) 01:08, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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