Talk:Ashlee Simpson

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Future Events

Her next tour is planned for the fall of 2005, and she is scheduled to appear on The Oprah Winfrey Show in October, both to sing and to discuss the SNL incident. Simpson has said that she would like to return to SNL, although nothing has been confirmed as of September 2005. Her second album, I Am Me, featuring the single "Boyfriend", is scheduled for release on October 18, 2005. ^[1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by RN (talk • contribs) 20:17, 13 September 2005

Favor

Could somebody separate her music career, movie career and the controversies? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hotwiki (talk • contribs) 08:59, 23 November 2005

Featured Music Project evaluation

Ashlee Simpson has been evaluated according to the Featured Music Project criteria, most recently affirmed as of this revision. The article's most important issues are listed below. Since this evaluation, the article may have been improved.

The following areas need work to meet the criteria: Lead - Pictures - Audio

The space below is for limited discussion on this article's prospects as a featured article candidate. Please take conversations to the article talk page.

• Lead: Needs to be a longer and more comprehensive summary
• Pictures: Needs fair use rationales
• Audio: None
• Needs print sources, musical style, influences and legacy, but that may be impossible due to the recentness of her career; still, more substantial sources would be good
• Discography presumably complete, but seems to be giving a lot of information that may be better in a subpage
• Format and style good, but the external links ought to be trimmed, or it ought to be made more clear why those are useful —Preceding unsigned comment added by TUF-KAT (talk • contribs) 03:59, 28 February 2006

Plastic Surgery?

Should there be a section or content reffering to Ashlee's recent plastic surgery? I think so, it's a pretty big change. She looks more like Sarah Michelle Gellar now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.41.126.134 (talk • contribs) 18:03, 24 July 2006

Yeah, she looks completely different. She seems even more like a poser to me then she did before:) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stopthemusic (talk • contribs) 22:12, 17 November 2007

invisible in 'i am me'

i removed references from the two sections stating that invisible is from 'i am me' unless that's something they do in music, where new singles are associated with the most recent album. if that's the case revert my edit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.150.91.245 (talk • contribs) 16:41, 14 August 2006

tatoos

i guess she has one more tatoo on her middle finger: http://www.ashlee-s.com/09livingbydesign/images/tattoo.png —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.242.37.5 (talk • contribs) 15:15, 28 October 2006

Legal Name

so Ashlee is married right: Simpson married Fall Out Boy bassist Pete Wentz on May 17, 2008 did she take his surname cause that needs to be looked into if she did take his surname that what she's called legally —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.22.206.205 (talk) 07:10, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

According to People magazine, she has taken the last name of Wentz and will be going by the stage name of Simpson-Wentz. Rylee Smith (talk) 18:24, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

I can't find it on the website, is it only in the magazine itself? If it's on the site, please post a direct link. Ariadne55 (talk) 18:34, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't know if it's on the website, but the magazine article does indeed say she's Wentz and going by Simpson-Wentz onstage. PurplePlaidElephant (talk) 01:44, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Cite the magazine article as the source for your edit (you'll need the page # etc.). The template for a magazine cite is about halfway down this page WP:CIT. Ariadne55 (talk) 06:11, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

You can change the page to Ashlee Simpson-Wentz[2]--Jack Cox (talk) 20:52, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately I have not checked this article in over a month. What she calls herself is irrelevant; only what the world calls her matters. So I checked Google News: 2,753 hits for "Ashlee Simpson", 489 for "Ashlee Simpson-Wentz". I feel this demonstrates that "Ashlee Simpson" is still the correct title. Does anyone oppose moving it back? Everyking (talk) 19:27, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

• I was going to say the same thing. Her legal name is irrelevant, this article should be at the most commonly used name that most people know her by, which is obviously Ashlee Simpson. 92.1.2.237 (talk) 22:49, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Yes, and even her official website still calls her "Ashlee Simpson". Everyking (talk) 23:16, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

I will move the page back to "Ashlee Simpson" in 24 hours unless there is an objection, or unless Google News indicates a significant trend toward general adoption of the "Simpson-Wentz" name. Everyking (talk) 18:15, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

I searched Ashlee Simpson as Ashlee Simpson-Wentz and pages are starting to refer to her as Ashlee Simpson-Wentz. Let's keep the article as-is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.151.137.19 (talk) 19:05, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I've searched her as Ashlee Simpson-Wentz in Google News, and they've started referring to her as Ashlee Simpson-Wentz. The article is fine the way that it is. 68DANNY2 (talk) 19:08, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

You can see the numbers I posted a few days ago above. The current numbers are 3,358 for "Ashlee Simpson" and 559 for "Ashlee Simpson-Wentz". I don't see a trend towards the latter. Most of the newest articles refer to her as "Ashlee Simpson". Everyking (talk) 19:17, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Considering that she got married a couple weeks ago, I think that 559 results as Ashlee Simpson-Wentz is a good number of articles. It will probably increase as more articles are written. 68DANNY2 (talk) 19:20, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

If that were the case, we'd see a trend, but what I see is that there was a spike in the use of the new name after it was announced, but that subsequently most sources continued to use the old name. The results indicate to me that the new name hasn't caught on. Everyking (talk) 19:37, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Read this: [3] she's taking Pete's surname and is going by Simpson-Wentz professionally. I think this settles this dicussion. 24.151.137.19 (talk) 19:26, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

The point is that it doesn't matter what she calls herself. Wikipedia articles are titled according to the common name of the subject. Everyking (talk) 19:37, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Exactly. Ashlee is changing her common name. 24.151.137.19 (talk) 19:49, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

She can't change her common name. Her common name is decided according to what people want to call her. If they now start calling her Ashlee Simpson-Wentz, then that's her new common name, but if they keep calling her Ashlee Simpson, then that remains her common name. That's why I've been comparing Google News results, to see whether this new name is really catching on. Also, as I pointed out, her website still uses her old name, but maybe they're just lazy. Since there are two of you in favor of keeping it at this title, I propose that we wait one week, then look at the results again and see if there's more of a shift towards Simpson-Wentz. Everyking (talk) 20:14, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

I just noticed that Danny has been going around changing the articles on her albums so that they are described as Ashlee Simpson-Wentz albums. Considering we don't even have a consensus on what she should be called now, I don't think it's appropriate to try to extend the Simpson-Wentz name to album articles which were released under the Ashlee Simpson name before she married Pete. Everyking (talk) 20:33, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

I've searched Google News for Ashlee Simpson, which had 3,162 results, and Ashlee Simpson-Wentz, which had 1,613 results. So clearly, the results for Ashlee Simpson are dropping while results for Ashlee Simpson-Wentz are increasing. But, as Everyking said, her official website still calls her Ashlee Simpson. 24.151.137.19 (talk) 19:06, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

2,659 for "Ashlee Simpson", 490 for "Ashlee Simpson-Wentz". Put them in quotes when searching for the most accurate results. Everyking (talk) 04:20, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

• I was the IP who agree with this proposal before. Since some/all editors disagreeing with this don't understand the naming conventions, I suggest Everyking should list this at Requested Moves and get a more informed consensus that way. Also, was there even any consensus to move this article to "Ashlee Simpson-Wentz"? If not it should be moved back, and if anyone wants to create a discussion they can do so. 92.1.103.20 (talk) 04:19, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

AS now has 1,322 hits on Google News against 481 for ASW. I've noticed a number of articles reference her as Simpson in the title but as Simpson-Wentz in the body: [4]. Everyking (talk) 16:59, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Premature and ill-judged move. The naming conventions make it clear that we always use the most common, not legal/real name, of people. Wikipedia articles don't change titles just because (part of) the media is starting to change how they call a subject. Editors should have waited until Simpson-Wentz actually becomes the most used name worldwide. It's already a few months after marriage, but as I see Simpson Ghits still vastly outnumber Simpson-Wentz. Since there is no real basis for the (apparently not backed up by consensus) move, we'd better move back immediately. Also, for a good example, Sarah Michelle Prinze's article still stays as Sarah Michelle Gellar after legal name changed. In short, I'll be moving this page back to original title if no evidence is shown to verify that Simpson-Wentz is the more used name. --PeaceNT (talk) 16:52, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

I've just moved the template back to "Template:Ashlee Simpson" to match the main article title. Acalamari 20:40, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

I support this move, of course. The article still refers to her as "Simpson-Wentz" every time it uses her name, though. I'd say we should also change that back to be consistent. Also, the article gives her legal name as "Ashlee Nicole Wentz", but (although I have no way of knowing for certain) it seems more likely that it's "Ashlee Simpson Wentz", since the maiden name normally takes the place of the middle name upon marriage. Everyking (talk) 20:44, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

I was about to ask regarding what to refer to Ashlee as: in parts, she's referred to as "Simpson-Wentz" and in others she's referred to as "Simpson". Which is the correct one, and secondly, shouldn't it be consistent throughout the article? Are there any good sources regarding her name change available? Acalamari 20:49, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

There's no evidence that she's changed her middle name from Nicole to Simpson. She might just as easily have kept Nicole as her middle name and/or added Simpson as a second middle name. In America, of the 90% of women who change their surname, only about half change their middle name. Ariadne55 (talk) 21:09, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, well, we don't have any evidence either way, so I don't know what to do about it. A relatively simple solution would be "Ashlee Simpson, also known as Ashlee Simpson-Wentz (born Ashley Nicole Simpson)...". That would at least avoid making any guesses. Everyking (talk) 22:23, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

We have evidence of her middle name being Nicole. That shouldn't be changed on the page unless there's evidence that she's changed her middle name. Her last name wasn't changed on the page until there was a cite for it, but we didn't change her to just "Ashlee" while we waited. Ariadne55 (talk) 22:54, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

During an interview on People.com, Ashlee had said that she had changed her surname from Simpson to Wentz, saying that she felt it is a great tradition. She also said that she is profesionally going by Ashlee Simpson-Wentz. I hope this clears up confusion about her legal name. This link is cited on the article. 24.151.137.221 (talk) 16:14, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Depressing

It continually depresses me to see things like this being added to this and other Ashlee articles, as well as the Ashlee template. All of that stuff was completely made up. Yesterday I reverted someone who had created an entire article based on the completely false idea that "Murder" was going to be released as a single; they had also included "Murder" on the singles discography and the template. Sometimes this kind of misinformation sticks around for a while, spreading to fan sites in the process. Some people will take it as fact, because it's on Wikipedia, while for others it will only reinforce the notion that Wikipedia is full of unreliable junk. Everyking (talk) 23:59, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Fired from Melrose Place

http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/10/22/simpson-and-egglesfield-fired-on-melrose-place/ Macshill (talk) 02:19, 23 October 2009 (UTC)