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User:Amorymeltzer/wikibreak/status


Congratulations! (premature, that is, but oh well...)

Congratulations, and welcome to hell adminship!

Let me be the first to congratulate you on your successful RFA! Here are some infallible[citation needed] rules about adminship that you need to know right off the bat:

  1. You will always protect The Wrong Version.
  2. Always remember to assume good faith and not to bite the newcomers. You know when you're applying these behavioral guidelines diligently when the user you're applying them to is a vandal, spammer, sock, troll, or all of the above.
  3. When you block a user, people will complain. When you decide not to block a user, people will complain.
  4. When you delete a page, people will complain. When you decide not to delete a page, people will complain.
  5. Always use clear and descriptive language when explaining someone to user who may not be aware of something.

On a (semi) serious note, you can test out the admin tools at Adminship for Dummies, and if you have any other questions at all about adminship and how the policies applicable to adminship work, let me (or another admin) know. We promise not to bite the newbie admins... MuZemike 20:37, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not premature

I'm happy to inform you that, due to your successful request for adminship, you have now been promoted to an administrator. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me or stop by the administrators' noticeboard. Congrats! Andre (talk) 23:59, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yay! Good luck with the mop. — The Earwig @ 00:03, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Gratz! - Dank (push to talk) 00:50, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Cheers ya'll! ~ Amory (u • t • c) 03:18, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Congrats Amory, and thanks for the kind note. I'm sure you'll do a fine job. If you're ever not sure about something, just step away from the keyboard for a bit til you think it through, and if you ever have any questions - don't be afraid to ask someone who's more familiar with whatever you're dealing with. If you ever just want to bounce something off somebody else, I'm always a happy sounding board. Best of luck buddy. ;) — Ched :  ?  03:26, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thought I'd get back to seek your assistance again

First of all, let me congratulate you for being promoted to an admin and wish you the best of luck. I have to agree, you'll do great. One more thing, I don't think newcomers have anything to worry about being bitten when it comes to you.I consider myself a newcomer and I never saw that coming -- you've been very nice and accommodating. I truly appreciate that. Moving forward ... I guess you remember you advised me about fair use rationales regarding image's copyright? Sorry, I haven't been able to look into that further. I actually just got a note that says something about that image you brought up that would have some copyright issues being possibly unfree & needs an attention. I'm not so sure how/where I'd start to get it resolved. I am hoping that you could guide me through it? Thank you very much. Jxc5 (talk) 09:39, 17 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Good to hear from you again, Jxc5, and thanks for the kind words!
In terms of the images, here's the deal. You've uploaded a bunch of files, all of which you said that it was you who owned the copyright and was therefore releasing it. The reason why File:LockwoodTheGreenQuotient.jpg was tagged was because it is obviously a book cover, and is therefore is only Lockwood's to release. Hence, your statement on that page that you are the copyright owner isn't true, and there is no permission to use it. You can try making a Fair Use claim using Template:Non-free book cover, although I would recommend you talk to Skier Dude, as s/he was the nominator.
Branching out from there, and correct me if I'm wrong, but potentially all of your images should be deleted. For example, did you yourself take the pictures File:JHyland.JPG and File:Charles Lockwood Jacket and Tie.jpg? I'm also fairly willing to assume you didn't take pictures such as File:LEBVLaurelandhardy.jpg and File:LEBVPamelaWayBusterKeaton.jpg. If not, the copyright information on those is all wrong and needs to be taken care of. Does that make sense? Image policy on Wikipedia isn't my strongest point, so I've asked Skier Dude to comment here as well. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 22:15, 17 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Amory. The rest of the images have actually been taken care of by Hyland. Except for his photo which I just asked him to re-upload himself. When I did upload the images, I wasn't at all aware that there were certain wiki rules about uploading images. Of course there were and should be but since I was new to wiki, I assumed otherwise and thought it's that simple. It was certainly an honest mistake and unintended negligence which is something I should apologize for. It's now File:Charles Lockwood Jacket and Tie.jpg and File:LockwoodTheGreenQuotient.jpg that I should start working on to fix. Yes, it's Lockwood who owns the copyright. So apparently, I'll have to ask him release them himself. By the way, how do I request to have the rest of the images with wrong copyright info deleted? Thank you also for asking Skier Dude for an extra hand. Your willingness to help me out here's greatly appreciated. Jxc5 (talk) 03:02, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Let's take a look:

File Problems Fixes
File:Charles Lockwood Jacket and Tie.jpg No source, appears to be pro. headshot, was photoshopped Supply source and go through WP:OTRS
File:JHyland.JPG‎ No source, no metadata, appears to be pro. headshot Supply source and go through WP:OTRS
File:LEBV.jpg Copyvio - book cover, uploader clearly not (c) holder Supply source and re-list as {{non-free book cover}}
File:LEBV EnchantedHill.jpg No source, no metadata, appears to be old artwork, only artist can release as "cc" Supply source & list with appropriate license*
File:LEBVFleurdeLys.jpg No source, no metadata Supply source and re-upload with metadata if possible
File:LEBVCarolwoodDrive.jpg No source, no metadata Supply source and re-upload with metadata if possible
File:LEBVPamelaWayBusterKeaton.jpg No source, either promotional image or screenshot, uploader clearly not (c) holder Supply source & list with appropriate license*
File:LEBVLaurelandhardy.jpg No source, either promotional image or screenshot, uploader clearly not (c) holder Supply source & list with appropriate license*
File:LEBVEnchantedHill.jpg No source, no metadata Supply source and re-upload with metadata if possible
File:Pepper-Shaker.jpg No source, no metadata Supply source and re-upload with metadata if possible
File:Foothill Road Beverly Hills.jpg No source, no metadata Supply source and re-upload with metadata if possible
File:Contemporary Masterpiece Bel Air.jpg No source, no metadata Supply source and re-upload with metadata if possible
File:Casa Encantada Bel Air.jpg No source, no metadata, given sepia tones, would be questioned on age as well Supply source & list with appropriate license*
File:Colleen Moore Estate Bel Air.jpg No source, no metadata, given model's dress, would be questioned on age as well Supply source & list with appropriate license*
File:Art Collector's Home Holmby Hills.jpg No source, no metadata Supply source and re-upload with metadata if possible
File:400px-Pepper-Shaker2.jpg No source, no metadata Supply source and re-upload with metadata if possible
File:LockwoodTheGreenQuotient.jpg Copyvio - book cover, uploader clearly not (c) holder Supply source and re-list as {{non-free book cover}}
  • Can't tell appropriate license without the source (most would be date dependent).

I think that covers all of them - questions, put them here, I'll watch the page. Skier Dude (talk) 04:30, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Images' copyright info fixes

Hi Amory/Skierdude. Here are the images I hope I got fixed. I had the copyright holders release them themselves with what I thought appropriate license. Lockwood's headshot photo, The Green Quotient book cover photo, Carolwood Drive,Fleur de Lys, Bel Air Contemporary Masterpiece, Hyland's headshot photo - photo was taken by his wife, Lori Hyland. Does it need to be released into a public domain like it was done?; The LEBH book cover. These next photos I'm not sure what license to apply: These two black and white historical photos come from Bison Archives and do appear on the pages of Hyland's book, The Legendary Estates of Beverly Hills that was published in 2008 - Beverly Hills Hillgrove & Buster Keaton. As well as Enchanted Hill - accdg. to Hyland is an architectural drawing made by architect Wallace Neff, Sr. in the 1920s, comes from the Collection of Wallace Neff, Jr. - also appear on the book's pages. I guess the images above that I uploaded with erroneous copyright info and license must be deleted? I'm not sure how it should work. Please guide me through it. Thank you so much. Jxc5 (talk) 05:57, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

AFAICT, that first list looks good except for File:Jeffrey Hyland.JPG - this has the same uploader as all the others yet was taken by a different person. Lori should verify with OTRS that she has released the image, or she can just reupload it herself. The two old-timey pictures are probably public domain according Wikipedia:Public domain#Photographs of buildings and the drawing most likely is (definitely if made before 1923) since I see no copyright symbol on it (©). Still, though, they aren't yours so the licenses have to be fixed. All the remaining images from the top table, then, need to be deleted from commons, right? ~ Amory (u • t • c) 17:49, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yes Amory. May I request that all the remaining images that the stated uploader was me be deleted if possible. With regards to Jeff Hyland's photo, I think I'll just have Lori (Hyland's wife) release it herself. I'll see what can be done with the artwork photo and the two black and white photos. Thank you very much for helping me out here. I think I have to say ... you'll hear from me again. =) Jxc5 (talk) 19:09, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Great! I've deleted all of the local images, and tagged all the Lockwood dupes at commons, as well as the pepper shaker for deletion. When the proper Hyland picture gets done, is it possible to re-up with the higher-res version? Currently, the one you did is of better resolution than the one with the closer-to-correct license. So, awesome, that's all taken care of I think. Happy Thanksgiving! ~ Amory (u • t • c) 18:57, 26 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for deleting the images above (table). I checked the images which copyright/licensing info needed to be corrected. I guess they're good now. Would you please double check for me to make sure they're accurate. Thanks a lot, Amory. =)I hope you had a nice and peaceful Thanksgiving.
Hyland's headshot photo
Enchanted Hill artwork
Black & White photo 1
Black & White photo 2
Jxc5 (talk) 01:36, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for the message! My apologies to the incorrect edits I made. I will be more careful in the future. And I will take off the pic immediately! Thanks again! BIONICLE233♥♠♣ 19:33, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Stars Redirects

I created the redirects pointing to Delta Trianguli and will gladly do the others, but I have two comments first:

  • Why are there so many for Zeta Reticuli? Are Zeta1 Ret and Zeta2 Ret both necessary separately?
  • Also, you may have noticed that since a lot of these start with Greek letters, capitalization will be an issue. That only really matters to most for Delta (such as with Δ Tri) but is this going to be an issue? I don't know if {{R from alternative capitalization}} is really appropriate.

Thanks in advance for your responses. Either here, my talk page, or at WP:AFC/R would be fine. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 19:48, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Zeta Reticuli has so many because it is an article for three things (1) a binary star system (2) Zeta1, a star, (3) Zeta2, a star. Some of the redirects are associated with the system as a whole, others are associated with one or the other of the stars.
Stars are frequently, but not always written, when using Greek Letters, lowercase. It isn't always the case, so the uppercase forms are also plausible redirects. I think {{R from alternate name}} would still apply, since they aren't the title the article is called right now in any case.
Zeta1 and Zeta2 are necesary separately, since in many cases "GreekLetter Constellation" does not refer to a single star system, there are several setindices on Wikipedia because of that. In this case, Zeta1 and Zeta2 are also frequently referred to separately, especially with some Ufology associated with one of the stars. And a major piece of science fiction is also associated with one of the stars.
76.66.197.2 (talk) 05:33, 26 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Cheers, thanks! I didn't doubt the veracity of your request, but while I'm pretty knowledgeable in Astronomy the minutiae of naming conventions are not my strongest point. Thanks for confirming things. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 15:19, 26 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Just checking if you got my message above

I'm not sure if you could see the new message that I posted above. I thought I'd just follow the discussion path. If that made you miss it, my fault - sorry about that. I hope to hear from you soon. Thanks very much. Jxc5 (talk) 00:54, 3 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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