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Legal status

Neve Ya'aqov is part of the East Jerusalem territory that Israel has effectively annexed following the Six-Day war. Since this annexation is not recognized internationally, the status of these parts is the same as the rest of the West Bank. Therefore, Neve Ya'aqov is considered by international bodies, as well as by some Israelis, as settlements. This subject is covered in the Israeli settlement article, if the relevant sentence in this article is disputed, I suggest discussing this first in that article's talk page.--Doron 08:10, 5 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Neveh Yaakov

The most common spelling is Neveh Yaakov, not Neve Ya'aqov. It is unnecessary and confusing for the reader to write the ' in Ya'akov, and the Q for the ק has almost universally been replaced with a K. Thus, I will change Ya'aqov to Yaakov. If anyone objects, please discuss here or contact me through my talk page. Note that Google gives 434 results for "Neve Ya'aqov" and 19,700 results for "Neveh Yaakov", which proves the commonality of the latter spelling. --Daniel575 23:34, 5 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I live here in Neve Yaakov, and Google gives 67,100 hits for that spelling ("Neve Yaakov"). Yoninah 08:13, 6 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

So I guess that's also possible. Which do you prefer? Feel free to change it. But hopefully you agree that the Q in transliterations - as well as the C - is totally outdated. --Daniel575 12:20, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks—I'll change it to Neve Yaakov. I totally agree about the "q"; I think that was added by a Hebrew linguistics expert a while back. He may turn up again, but in the meantime even "Qiriat Belz" has been renamed Kiryat Belz! Yoninah 21:22, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"described by some sources"

Funnily enough, the only two sources listed for this page call it a settlement. So why is it only a settlement according to 'some' sources. Granted, not all sources will call it a settlement, as this term is disputed by Israel. But the vast majority of sources refer to it as a settlement. Peace Now refers to it as both a neighborhood and a settlement. Its legal status as a neighborhood of Jerusalem is disputed in UN Resolution 476, so how can we lead with this term so unqualified? And why is a term that is disputed by the International Community used so blatantly and prefferably to a term that is disputed only by the Israeli Government (in terms of sovereign government recognitions)? This page really does not seem NPOV, but more like the Israeli Governments POV. Colourinthemeaning (talk) 03:46, 26 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

International Community

As some have accused the term 'international community,' or 'majority of the international community' to be a weasel word, I would like to know on what basis this is exactly, and what alternatives you may consider appropriate? Would for instance 'The majority of nations in the world, and Non-Governmental Organizations' be acceptable? Given they are synonymous as far as I can see, I don't quite understand what the issue with 'majority of the international community' could actually be? Colourinthemeaning (talk) 10:43, 23 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If you can find a source for majority of nations in the world, then sure. International community is a weasel because it implies that the entire world believes something, when in fact it isn't true... and there isn't a precise definition for what the term "international community" literally refers to. Breein1007 (talk) 18:44, 23 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

'Then sure' like the other dozens of sources I have added and you have simply removed? Colourinthemeaning (talk) 04:18, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Let's not misrepresent the truth. You haven't added any sources that indicate "a majority of countries'" position on the matter. Breein1007 (talk) 04:51, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, I just do not want to waste my time if you plan to remove it without any explanation like you have to dozens of other sources I have added. Colourinthemeaning (talk) 05:12, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]