User talk:Vsmith

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Cave of the Crystals

Hey there, I met you a few moons ago and you seemed like a pretty nice guy. Yesterday my daughter told me about some...very huge crystals...and when I looked it up on wikipedia it 'bout blew my mind! I would like to expand the Cave of the Crystals wikipedia entry and would like a mentor. I am not a geologist, but usually have rocks in my pockets. I have added a "Discovery" section, and would like to do a "Geology" section next. As far as I have been able to find, there is very little information, so I'd like to stretch it out as much as possible, using basic crystal information. I'd also like to change the name of the article to the Spanish name. Can you help? Gandydancer (talk) 01:46, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

The page is on my watchlist, so I had noted your edits. Don't know 'bout mentoring, but I'd be willing to check edits (before or after you make them live. Gotta be careful with the stretch it out part with an eye toward WP:SYN. Also note a couple of refs used are likely not reliable sources. Seems I chopped a bit of copyright vio stuff there last week. As to the name change - I'd suggest posting a note on talk and see if anyone objects. When I get a chance, I'll do some looking around for likely refs. Vsmith (talk) 02:26, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Quick search turned up an article from Geology: April 2007, v. 35; no. 4; p. 327–330; doi: 10.1130/G23393A.1; titled Formation of natural gypsum megacrystals in Naica, Mexico. Quite a bit of technical info and a ref list for more. I find it quite interesting as my thesis project way back when included anhydrite and gypsum veining of an ore deposit. One of the refs re: the mining district was by my thesis advisor, didn't know he was involved in that area. Also one of the refs included was to a 1927 article, The selenite caves of Naica, Mexico: American Mineralogist, v. 12, p. 252–256, so the deposit has been studied for quite awhile. So detailed technical stuff is available - just not as websites. I'm a member of GSA so have access to the Geology article if you want some mind numbing technical stuff. Vsmith (talk) 03:13, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your interest and information. As for the "stretching", I would like to briefly explain how the cavern may have been made and the crystals formed. Nothing technical. I'll read everything that the links provide and see what I can do. Most likely I will post it on the talk page for you to take a look at. Anything you come across would be great. Again, thanks! Gandydancer (talk) 00:11, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

I thought you could help me if I put it on the talk page. Where is it now? Gandydancer (talk) 19:56, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Just left a note on your talk. User:Gandydancer/Naica. Vsmith (talk) 20:02, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, it will make it easy to work that way. About the questions, they were not to you, they were to myself, things to answer as I went along. Perhaps everything I write will not go in the article, however I DO LOVE GEOLOGY and I want to get as a complete picture for myself about just what went on all those years that those crystals were forming. On the other hand, I know that some people complain that something may be too indepth, but I don't look at it that way. I feel that if a person did not need to push their mind a little, that is not so good. Geology is a wonderful thing, it can give you x-ray vision and enable you to time-travel. Gandydancer (talk) 20:38, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

OK, I'll put my comments/answers on the talk page there and leave the subpage as your time-travel experience :) Don't get lost in the Deep time. Vsmith (talk) 20:47, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Orogeny

Thanks for the help here and on Mountain building. Brews ohare (talk) 05:09, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Welcome. Dang it, I was about to shut down a couple hours ago and get some sleep, then I saw your comments and work and ... wasn't planning on that, gotta sleep. Cheers, Vsmith (talk) 05:16, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Density

Please take a second and follow the link to supermassive black holes. As you can see, it is well known and documented that the density of them can be similar to ear at sea level depending on size. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Erikev (talk • contribs) 00:45, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

"...can be similar...", methinks that is the key. Vsmith (talk) 01:24, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

It can be more, it can be less. The formula is described in the link. It is simple multiplication. It can be similar, and it happens to be the same when the radius equal the solar system. Please calculate for yourself. It seems you fix abuses. I am puzzled why you want to erase this piece of interesting and well documented fact. I am not going to get into an editing war here. Anyway, I am an astronomer working on high energy physics, and in my field this stands up to peer review. Please leave the entry in, and if you disagree with the established radius, please provide your radius, and supporting documentation.Erikev (talk) 03:36, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

To be precise: The solar systems bowshock to interstellar wind is 200AU away, and the tail may extend 700EU. A black hole with radius 350EU will have a density of 1.2kg/m^3 and a mass of 18 billion suns. See black hole classification by mass. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Erikev (talk • contribs) 04:11, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

I have read that article (Supermassive black hole). Seems the density is only discussed in the lede and is unsourced. A major problem (I assume it was a misstatement) was the Varies inversely with mass. bit, an obvious error. Now I'm not an astronomer (teaching it at the HS level does not make an expert :-) and I'm not going to base edits on my own calculations. I do know that density varies directly with mass. As this bit of info is unsourced and has been challenged, it would require a citation (and a bit of relevance) to be re-entered. Just because it may be "interesting" to some doesn't mean it belongs in the list. Yeah, the calculation would be an interesting exercise for astronomy students, but I'm not teaching now. What reliable source discusses the density of a supermassive black hole and the significance of the density of one with radius = radius of the Solar Syatem? Vsmith (talk) 04:27, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

It is spelled out in multiple articles on Wikipedia, and I gave you the references. It should also be obvious from a concept as simple as Newtonian escape velocity (set Ve=c). OJ 287 happens to be 18 billion solar masses.

See also Monster Black Holes Soon to Collide

So now we have three separate Wikipedia articles as reference as well as Sky and telescope, as well as a simple high school do it yourself math. Did you even look at the references in the original edit before you deleted it? The reference was to Wikipedia own article with the formula in black and white. How much clearer can it be?

I copied the reference from black holes here so you dont have to click the link:

"Black holes are commonly classified according to their mass, independent of angular momentum $J\,$. The size of a black hole, as determined by the radius of the event horizon, or Schwarzschild radius, is proportional to the mass $M\,$ through

$r_{sh}\approx 2.95\,M/M_{\bigodot }\;\mathrm {km,}$

where $r_{sh}\,$ is the Schwarzschild radius and $M_{\bigodot }$ is the mass of the Sun. A black hole's size and mass are thus simply related."

I do not write this because I care about this edit. What I care about is the success of Wikipedia. You have 80000 edits. They day I stand corrected is the day I learn something new, but it takes character to accept one it wrong.Erikev (talk) 11:15, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Good morning, have you yet noted the error I mentioned above: Varies inversely with mass.?? And no, other Wikipedia articles are not references - read WP:RS. The Sky & Tele article doesn't mention density unless I've missed it (gotta get my first cup o caffeine finished). Don't rightly know what your character note is s'posed to be implying ... but I must have lots of it, been wrong quite a few times over the years and accepted lots of 'em. Vsmith (talk) 13:45, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

The sky and telescope article gives m=18 billion suns and d=700 a.u. I quote: "Not to scale. In reality the large hole is 170 times the diameter of the small one, and even the large one (700 a.u. wide) is about the size of a pixel at the scale of their separation here."

and

"galaxy OJ 287 in Cancer is thought to have two supermassive black holes in its nucleus, one of them possibly the most massive such object known in the universe... 18 billion solar masses"

and Supermassive Black Holes where I quote "The average density of a supermassive black hole can be very low, and may actually be lower than the density of air. This is because the Schwarzschild radius is directly proportional to mass, while density is inversely proportional to the volume. Since the volume of a spherical object is directly proportional to the cube of the radius, and mass merely increases linearly, the volume increases at a greater rate than mass. Thus, average density decreases for increasingly larger radii of black holes."

It is about 223,000 articles found by google that includes "black hole" and "density less than air"

I will not discuss this further. Probably ten intelligent scientists would not be able to convince one ignorant person. Erikev (talk) 15:45, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Please read WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA in regard to your last sentence above. And you are still ignoring my main objection: Density is not inversely proportional to mass. Why are you refusing to discuss or recognize that error? Vsmith (talk) 17:18, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

On a quick skim, I think that what Erikev was trying to say above is that:

$r_{sh}\propto M$

$V\propto r_{sh}^{3}$

$\rho =M/V\propto M/r_{sh}^{3}\propto M/M^{3}=M^{-2}$

Where $\rho$ is density, $M$ is mass, $r_{sh}$ is Schwarzchild radius, and $V$ is volume.

Which actually puts it as proportional to the inverse square and not the inverse, so you've got me. In any case, to Erik: insults always reflect poorly on the giver, please be a gentleman. And if you would so kindly explain this $\rho \propto M^{-1}$ business, or at least where I erred in my above assumptions, I at least would appreciate it. Awickert (talk) 07:31, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for that. And I got that up above, basically my objection was the placing of density varies inversely with mass with no explanatory text in a basic list of densities. I was not successful in getting Erikev to see what I was objecting to. Seems he's left over it - which is too bad. Vsmith (talk) 13:36, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for telling you what you already knew :-). The placing-in-article-without-explanation thing is what I was going to get at if he replied. It is too bad if his behavior here was not characteristic of his behavior on Wikipedia. Ah, well, happy Friday! Awickert (talk) 15:15, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Collapsing

We both know your POV when it comes to climate change, but if you are going to label my edits as "personal attacks" for referring to his off-wiki activities then collapse the entire conversation - not just the part you don't want other people to read. If someone is going to put out Connolley's "expertise" as an excuse to violate wikipedia policy then I'm going to correct the record on what his expertise actually is. TheGoodLocust (talk) 23:30, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

It was a personal attack - belittling a user's former career that way was uncalled for. Most users don't identify their background ... simply anonymity. So when a user does discuss his off-wiki work, it is not far game for belittling comments. That part was a personal attack and not simply correct the record... and I would suggest that you refactor. Vsmith (talk) 23:52, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

I didn't belittle anyone's career. I stated that he was a climate modeller, a computer programer, not a climatologist. This is certainly relevant when people are putting out his real-world activities as an excuse to justify his incivility and BLP violations. Funny how I never see you correcting/"suggesting" sanctions when diff's of Connolley's BLP violations and incivility are presented - now why is that? TheGoodLocust (talk) 23:56, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Why did you remove this video?

It was a good interview. TheGoodLocust (talk) 09:28, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

WP:RS - WP:ELNO Vsmith (talk) 13:20, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

When a youtube link is added with no edit summary I remove it. The site is rampant with copyvio/problematic stuff. Vsmith (talk) 14:00, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

That is the official AlJazeera English channel - there is no copy violation. Additionally, I could find nothing in ELNO that prohibits interviews, indeed, in the "rich media" section it lists an interview as an example. And Al Jazeera is a respected news source - it is obviously reliable and it is obviously Pachauri being interviewed. TheGoodLocust (talk) 19:23, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

What was the WP:BLP Consern?

You deleted Pachaurigate. A term with a WP:RS sourced (see [1]) article After Climategate, Pachaurigate and Glaciergate: Amazongate connected to it. It was created to help people reading this (millions reader of this blog, and other pieces) to get to the right article at Wikipedia. Can you please specify where the WP:BLP is broken? Nsaa (talk) 14:39, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Let's see... A blogger invents a derogatory word using a living person's name. OK, bloggers probably blather on that way a lot. Then you decide this catchy non-notable word invention should be on Wikipedia. And you make it a re-direct to that living person's wiki-biography, and you don't see the problem? Please read WP:BLP. We don't need to make derogatory comments about living people or use derogatory terms used by some blogger. Using that word as a redirect to anywhere is a BLP problem, using it as a redirect to the living person's biography is absurdly obvious as a BLP vio. Vsmith (talk) 14:55, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Can you please raise it at WP:BLP/N as appropriate. We strongly disagree. Nsaa (talk) 15:01, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

You are quite welcome to take it there if you feel it necessary. Vsmith (talk) 15:11, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Finding vandalism

Hi Vsmith.
I looked at your contributions, and I saw that you have pages and pages of reverting vandalism, mostly to science-related articles. S I was wondering: do you have any automated tools to help you find and revert vandalism? Thanks. --The High Fin Sperm Whale 20:54, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Nothing automated. I've got a rather large watchlist (13K+) and I scan my watchlist for recent changes a couple times a day - check most anon and new account edits and zap when needed. Vsmith (talk) 21:01, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

How many pages do you have on your watchlist? --The High Fin Sperm Whale 22:07, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Currently 13,112 - mostly science related. Need to go through and weed out some stuff, dormant user talk pages etc. A lot of them are seldom edited, obscure mineral pages and such. I basically ignore pop culture topics - unless I catch vandalism while checking other edits by vandals. Usually check other edits by ips I revert - leads to more vandalism to zap. Vsmith (talk) 22:19, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Orogeny and Mountain building: generally accepted geology?

Hi, Vsmith. User:Brews ohare has drawn a distinction between orogeny and mountain building, and has a set of references to back this distinction up. This seems odd to me, and conflicts with what I know, but I am not a professional geologist. Is this distinction generally accepted, or is it a minority view? If the latter, should we open a discussion? Thanks for your advice! —hike395 (talk) 07:39, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes, there seems to be a potential problem. I've cautioned him on one reference and he seems to be relying on geomorphologists works that may not fully represent current thinking in structural geology and tectonics. Kinda reminiscent of the conflicts back in 1968 when I first "got involved" in geology. Watching, and I am not a professional geologist now either. Vsmith (talk) 13:55, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing my little blurburs today. I've been editing in little gaps of free time, and as a result, not being as cautious as I should be. Thank you! Awickert (talk) 02:03, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

No problem. Glad to see you tackling the job :-) I discovered the Epeirogenic movement page while trying to link epeirogenesis (real spelling challenge there, just don't look right). And now I see Brews has now found it also ... my link got results, it was in need of work. Gotta look at it again now. While I hesitate & waffle others charge in. Cheers, Vsmith (talk) 02:34, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Trust me, I've been squinting at the spelling every time I write it. Glad Brews found that page; he has a lot of drive! I'll do my best, but I really should get back to helping Black Tusk with his FAC... or doing my real work! Awickert (talk) 02:46, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

An old friend

Re[2], Mr. 70.6. is Scibaby, as is User:Jeff K. Halle (CU evidence "likely", behavioral evidence "sigh, not again"). Can you do that adminly thing all over them? Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 02:58, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Yup, how 'bout Kornwallis? Vsmith (talk) 13:50, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Magic 8 Ball sez "Most likely" Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 15:46, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Missouri

There hasn't been much activity at WikiProject Missouri or any of its child projects lately, and I saw your name on the list of active participants. If you are willing to jump in again, please consider helping to revive the project:

• Put {{WikiProject Missouri}} on the talk pages of articles involving Missouri. This helps to categorize articles
• Write, cleanup, or expand an article about Missouri
• Source a Biography of a living person living in, born in, or otherwise affiliated with Missouri
• Help spread the word about the project
• Update the project page or the portal
• Watchlist or check the project talk page for updates
• Join one of the child projects:
  • Columbia
  • Kansas City
  • Kansas City Chiefs
  • St. Louis
  • Missouri State Highways
  • Mizzou
  • Silver Dollar City
  • Washington University in St. Louis
  • St. Louis Cardinals
  • St. Louis Rams

If you know anyone who might be interested in Missouri (its history, culture, sports, people, places, architecture, etc.), please pass this message along to them! If you are still interested in the project but aren't currently active, please add yourself to the list of inactive participants at the bottom of this list. Thanks!

On behalf of the project,  fetchcomms☛ 23:00, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Adenosine triphosphate

Is a typical student topic which is eternally IP vandalized by unhappy students. Would you consider sprotecting it and give us all a rest? SBHarris 00:37, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

I see only 6 anon edits in the last month plus the recent new user edits - the one you warned. Not really that serious a problem as long as several are watching the article. Yes, I would rather zero vandal edits ... or in other words, no ip edits allowed anywhere. But that isn't likely given the popularity of the "anyone can edit" mindset. Cheers, Vsmith (talk) 01:07, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for the letter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ebe123 (talk • contribs) 11:23, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Province of BC IP range

I noticed you blocked 142.23.73.8 for vandalism. That is an IP in a range owned by the Province of BC. From the juvenile style and some of the content of the vandalism I believe it's a school, perhaps Vernon Secondary School[3] in School District 22 Vernon (IP:143.23.74.7). I have seen many instances of vandalism from IPs in the range 142.23.73.1-13 over the last few months (the most recent was 142.23.73.13 today). There are a few constructive edits also. I do not know what the policy is or the procedure, if any, for reporting this. What I would like to do would be to tag the talk pages with the school name if we could find it out. Jojalozzo 01:00, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes, most likely school ips - tag 'em if you can verify that. I blocked that one for a week - anonblock, but persistent vandalism from school ips usually get zapped for much longer. You might try e-mailing the contact person listed on the WHOIS report with a friendly request. Vsmith (talk) 01:28, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Bias

click this please.....below.....and see on the bottom of that page what I said to this editor applies to you as well.   thank you.

click: User talk:LexCorp —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sweetpoet (talk • contribs) 13:12, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Psychic

Oops, sorry, tried editing from a mobile device..... no idea what happened. Thanks for notifying me Macromonkey (talk) 21:31, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

No problem, I figured some kind of glitch had occurred. Vsmith (talk) 21:33, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

"Also note WP:AGF and comment on the issues - not on other editors." Excuse me but AGF applies to you guys as well. Connelly accused me of "anon whitwwashing" and you obviously haven't examined the material I removed from a BLP. Works both ways. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.153.50.156 (talk) 16:19, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Climatic Research Unit hacking incident

Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that you indefinitely protected the Climatic Research Unit hacking incident article. Instead of locking the entire article, why not simply warn or ban those editors who were doing the edit-warring? A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 19:04, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Correction: protected for 3 days. Work it out. Vsmith (talk) 19:08, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

I see that you changed the protection to 3 days. That's better, but it doesn't address my question. You say to "work it out" but I wasn't one of the editors who was engaging in edit-warring; I know better than that. Why not warn or ban the problem editors instead of blocking everyone? A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 19:12, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Didn't change it, only protected once. Who are the "problem editors"? And I wasn't meaning to imply wrongdoing on your part - that "work it out" was a general admonition to everyone involved. Vsmith (talk) 19:15, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

• It's interesting how these articles almost always get protected in the wrong version that favors those on one side of the discussion. Interesting, but not surprising. Scottaka UnitAnode 19:38, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Well, forgive me if I make any mistakes regarding the specifics of how edit-warring is defined, but I'll give you an honest effort.

As far I can see, Grundle2600 was the first editor to add this content to the article.[4] This edit is fine as we assume good faith.

Scjessey then reverted the edit.[5] This is fine, too, as again we assume good faith.

After this point, there should be no further reverts, correct? We're supposed to discuss this on the talk page until consensus has been reached. Any further reverts is edit-warring, correct?

Well, this content was reverted an additional 9 times:

• Unitanode reverts.[6]
• HaeB reverts.[7]
• Grundle2600 reverts.[8]
• Nsaa reverts.[9]
• William M. Connolley reverts.[10]
• Arzel reverts.[11]
• Tony Sidaway reverts.[12]
• Unitanode reverts.[13]
• ChrisO reverts.[14]

As far I understand the situation, it appears that Unitanode, HaeB, Grundle2600, Nsaa, William M. Connolley, Arzel, Tony Sidaway, Unitanode and ChrisO all engaged in edit-warring. These editors are well aware that this article is on probation. They have no excuse as far as I can see. In fact, many have already been warned and sanctioned for previous violations on this vary same article. By placing the article on protection, you block everyone. Why not go after the editors who are actually causing the problem? A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 19:45, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Or, better yet, why not "go after" the editors who have hunkered so far down in their bunkers that whatever is proposed that they think might benefit the "other side" is simply obstructed? I've rarely seen obstructionism on this level in my 3+ years on Wikipedia. Scottaka UnitAnode 19:50, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

(ec) to AQFK, So you're saying that I should have blocked 9 editors? (wait Unitanode's there twice...) Or maybe just those who reverted twice. Seemed simpler to lock it for a bit and let those 9 or so involved come to terms on talk. Such is the fun of it. Vsmith (talk) 19:58, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Come to think of it - why are you two rather than jabbering here, go convince those other "hunkered down" folks of your enlightened ways. I don't even know specifically what the dispute was about. Vsmith (talk) 20:02, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

• There won't be any coming to terms, as the goal of those who want it out is to simply obstruct any change they perceive as remotely damaging to their cause. As I said, the level of obstructionism from the pro-AGW side is the highest I've seen in my 3 years here. Scottaka UnitAnode 20:04, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Please take your rants elsewhere and attacks on other users are not welcome on my talk. Vsmith (talk) 00:19, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I'm saying that these 9 editors should be warned/blocked. Anyway, I'm sorry if you inadvertently got involved in a bad situation. I accept that you made a good faith attempt to address the problem. As far as I can tell, this problem has been going on for years, and no one seems to be doing anything about it. So as not to take up too much of your time (unless you want to), I've decided to take up my concern here.[15]. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 20:24, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. That is a far better place for this discussion, and yes a warning for each would be a good idea. I just got back in from a couple hours in the woods with my chain saw cleaning up tornado damage -- exercise is always good for stress. Vsmith (talk) 00:19, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Sweetpoet

Hi Vsmith. I'm sorry to have to bother you with this, but my actions may have led (in part) to editor Sweetpoet getting blocked. I misunderstood what the editor was doing and reverted edits they were making at evolution (see also here). I still think that the edit they were trying to make is questionable, but I originally mistook it as creationism-smuggling and inaccurately described it as such. Anyway, I just wanted to make this clear since my actions seem to have precipitated an edit war that's left Sweetpoet 3RR blocked. Cheers, --PLUMBAGO 15:43, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Per user unblock request and your comments I've unblocked and cautioned Sweetpoet recommending article talk page discussion of their concerns. It wasn't the clear open and shut case that I first thought. Vsmith (talk) 16:39, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Sweetpoet did still edit war and push themselves over 3RR, but they were in part prompted by my erroneous characterisation of their edits. Anyway, sorry for essentially starting this. Cheers, --PLUMBAGO 16:50, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Biofuels move back

Thanks for performing the move which I was attempting (possibly concurrently), I'm sure my attempts were ham-fisted if not completely incorrect (beginner editor) but you seem to have done the job :) Jebus989^★ 21:39, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

No problem (I don't think :) Yes, Wiki rules and methods can be daunting even for those who've been here awhile. Vsmith (talk) 21:46, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Mariana Trench

Hello, I was wondering if you know if the proper name for the Mariana Trench is Mariana or Marianas? Why the two names? I found your name on the talk page. I'll wait for a reply here on your page as per your preference. Thanks, Malke2010 05:24, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

personally no preference. However Google scholar search returns more w/out the "s", 808 for "Marianas Trench" and 2390 for "Mariana Trench". Vsmith (talk) 13:05, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Why do you keep on insisting that the content I added to Junk Jewelry page is spam. I added the missing "junk jewelry" section, and explained what it was. For that I added a reference. What is "spammy" about adding good content? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rafiseddiqi (talk • contribs) 17:45, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

OK - I looked again and found your addition to be a blatant copyright violation of the blog entry you used as a reference. Removed again. Vsmith (talk) 22:10, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Protected

Excuse me, but how do you protect a article?Do you have to be a administrator? - Nascar1996 23:34, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes, article protection requires an admin. You can request protection at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection, just provide a good reason and follow the directions there. Vsmith (talk) 03:57, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your help.

I appreciate the help you gave me!! I wrote the Rove region article and am in the process of writing articles based on the redlinks in Rove.

Rove region - Fetchcomms suggested I add hyperlinks to the lead section. I hadn't because I didn't want to "clutter" the lead section. I have noticed that most (if not all) articles do put hyperlinks in the lead, so thanks for taking care of that for me. (Preparing an article for peer review is a LOT more work than I thought it would be - it's a real learning experience. I'm learning from all the comments and edits; succeeding articles should be better!!) Yes, I can see where earthquake and tsunami should have pluralized.

Vaalbara - Rewording that second sentence makes it flow better AND it combines with the first paragraph, which I didn't think it did before. I see you caught a spelling typo. Thank you for the hyperlinks in the lead.

Saganagan Orogeny - Thanks for adding categories. I have added some categories on articles, but I do need to become more comfortable with what categories are available.

Again, thank you for your thoughtful and helpful fixes. I do appreciate them. My goal is to present feature-article quality products. Bettymnz4 (talk) 23:03, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

No problem, just fixed some convert template problems and changed categories on Rove Formation. Seems the article kinda wanders a bit given the new name. The Rove is a specific stratigraphic argillite formation, whereas the article seems to be more about the region as it was originally titled. May need tightening a bit. Vsmith (talk) 00:52, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

I saw that someone had worked on the conversion templates and   notations. I finished them. Thank for showing me how they look.

I'll look at tightening the article up. Before the renaming someone else wondered about the Human history section and the Flora section. Bettymnz4 (talk) 02:07, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Fixed the Sudbury ejecta section a bit. The debrisite lies below the Rove on the Gunflint per the Geology article. Fixed and adjusted the conversions in that section - range, abbr=on, put metric 1st. Vsmith (talk) 02:21, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Page deletion

Hello, I am new to wikipedia and was trying to add a page indpendence bioproducts, I was editing when you deleted me? pPlease let me know why? I see lots of other cmpany pages on here, Sorry for any problems. IBP Project —Preceding unsigned comment added by IBP Project (talk • contribs) 16:36, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

As I noted on your talk page, Wikipedia is not here to promote your business. Vsmith (talk) 16:38, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Tropism

Why did you revert my changes to tropism? You can't believe the state that you've left the article is better. For a start the paragraph has been copied and pasted twice, so repeats directly in the same article. The second time it's been pasted in, it was even put inappropriately into a summary list (without removing the original summary). You've even left the word "[edit]" in there. I don't think that paragraph should be in the article at all, and should be left in the separate ecotropism from where it was copied and pasted in the first place, as this article is very clearly about its biological use. 131.111.186.95 (talk) 14:28, 10 March 2010 (UTC)