Talk:List of casualties of the Smolensk air disaster

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This article was nominated for deletion on 13 April 2010. The result of the discussion was snowball keep.

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This article should be renamed to casulties of not passengers as it would be good to include crew members. --ro|3ek (talk) 12:54, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. This isn't a memorial, so not all names must be mentioned, but might as well be inclusive/accurate in the name. Joshdboz (talk) 17:52, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Per Joshdboz, this isn't a memorial. People have added a shedload of names of nobodies. I've now pruned the list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.170.90.2 (talk) 02:09, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. If there is going to be a list of all the personnel on board the name should be changed. However the list should be kept to a minimum of those that were considered "notable" people. Halofanatic333 (talk) 11:19, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - While it is always fun to play the notable/not notable game, at a minimum the list should contain the entire count with supporting documentation, i.e. X steward/esses, Y bodyguards, even if the names themselves are not included. — MrDolomite • Talk 09:55, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment- I agree with you. I do have respect for the dead, but certain people (IE crew members or guards) should be noted by numbers. Halofanatic333 (talk) 11:12, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. With rename. — MrDolomite • Talk 09:55, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Also the page's title was changed yesterday. Halofanatic333 (talk) 11:27, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Wojciech Seweryn

Under the "Other" section, there is this entry:

18. Wojciech Seweryn, Polish-American artist

However, reading the provided source for this information, it is not clear to me that he was in fact Polish-American. The linked article seems to say that he was a Polish man living in the United States, which is not the same thing. It even says at one point that he was a "patriot" of Poland. Our own article on this artist says that he was "a Polish-born sculptor and longtime resident of the United States," which is also unclear. Can anyone confirm his citizenship?--Danaman5 (talk) 10:50, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nationalities

The question has been touched on above. Were all the victims Polish? If so, it should be stated in the article, otherwise the nationalities of the victims should be stated. Mjroots2 (talk) 13:14, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Everyone

This list needs to contain everyone on board, not just important people, if it is a casualty list. Anyone who can read Polish may be able to help us by reading off the official list of victims. RM Let's be friends

Tadeusz Ploski

I see that this person comes in twice on the list, first time as a "Military figure" (n° 10), and a second time as a "Religious figure" (n° 2). Both are correct, as this man is a bishop in the army. But that makes a double count ? Alexandersam (talk) 09:47, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Religion

For an incomprehensible reason, Polish press when listing religious figures specified their religion only in some cases. I assumed that those whose affiliation was not stated were likely to be Roman Catholic and added this information to the article.