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A news item involving Afriqiyah Airways Flight 771 was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the In the news section on 12 May 2010.

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Survivors

1 survivor reported by AFP, rumours on Pprune of a 2nd, but unconfirmed as yet. Mjroots (talk) 08:55, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

MJ I moved the info about the possible survivor to the lead, think it reads better that way? --220.101.28.25 (talk) 09:15, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, GF editing is to be encouraged.

Mjroots (talk) 09:22, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Okey doke!

--220.101.28.25 (talk) 10:22, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Registration

I've removed 5A-ONG as the reg of the a/c involved. Aviation Safety Network is reporting it as an A330-202, 5A-ONG is an A330-243. We should wait for confirmation before adding this info. Mjroots (talk) 08:59, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

5A-ONG confirmed now which btw is an A330-202, see: http://www.planespotters.net/Production_List/Airbus/A330/1024,5A-ONG-Afriqiyah-Airways.php - not sure how to add that properly to the article 85.179.69.122 (talk) 10:35, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

~~Registration is either 5A-ONF or 5A-ONH, but which of the two is unconfirmed as yet.~~ Mjroots (talk) 10:40, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Aviation Safety Network now reporting 5A-ONG, but some sources say that that is a -243, not a -202. Have e-mailed them asking clarification. Mjroots (talk) 10:49, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.airbus.com/crisis/index.html confirming MSN 1024 5A-ONG. And on a side note, seating capacity for all Afriqiyah A330s is total 230 (30 in Business, 200 in Economy) http://www.afriqiyah.aero/about-us/fleet.html 85.179.69.122 (talk) 10:57, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed re regn. Now, I've a feeling that the Airbus page above will disappear fairly soon, so we needed a cached url to ref that. Not sure how to do that myself though. Mjroots (talk) 11:21, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nationalities

How many Dutch on board, 62 or 64? The Telegraaf states that two holiday companies had tourist on board. - De touropetarors Kras en Stip reizen melden echter dat zij respectievelijk 26 en 38 mensen aan boord hadden. De Nederlandse toeristen kwamen uit Zuid-Afrika en zouden in Tripoli overstappen op vluchten richting Brussel en Düsseldorf. The lede states 62, but 26 + 38 = 64, although it doesn't categorically state that they were all Dutch nationals. Can anyone provide further info? Mjroots (talk) 11:57, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

BBC now says the Dutch tourism board say 61. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:11, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It also says "other African nationals" (as well as Libyans, that is). The Rambling Man (talk) 12:15, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is that 61 total, or 61 dead? Mjroots (talk) 12:20, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

61 dead (also according to Sky News here)... The Rambling Man (talk) 12:35, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reuters also say 61 Dutch killed, plus one survivor, giving 62. Mjroots (talk) 12:37, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

South Africans

I'm not 100% sure, but Beeld (Afrikaans) is saying "minstens nege". Now, minstens negen in Dutch is "at least nine". Can anyone confirm. Anchen Dreyer (or is it her brother???) is mentioned by Beeld, seems we have a Wikinotable person involved. Mjroots (talk) 16:47, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article says at least nine people from South-Africa died on this flight. One of them was Frans Dreyer, Anchen Dreyer's brother. Leime (talk) 18:28, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Correction, the article does not say they died, but it says they were on board of the flight. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leime (talk • contribs) 18:29, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

We know there was only 1 survivor, so 9 dead is a reasonable deduction. Mjroots (talk) 18:41, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's true, I just wanted to be accurate on what the article actually says and what we can deduce from that. :) Leime (talk) 21:05, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Belgian

1 Belgian also on board according to Belgian newspaper HLN. source --145.53.28.75 (talk) 20:56, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Place of the crash

Judging by press photos on which a small mosque is visible, the crash happened somewhere near 32°39′34″N 13°07′04″E / 32.65944°N 13.11778°E / 32.65944; 13.11778. GdB (talk) 13:00, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Which is some way short of the runway. Mjroots (talk) 13:26, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sole survivor category

I know this isn't the best place for this discussion but this will get far more traffic than the infobox talk page. Do we really want a category for "sole survivor"? It appears that this was added to the template today for when survivors = 1. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:17, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think we need that cat. Annoyingly, it is still showing for me, even after a cache purge. Mjroots (talk) 13:24, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's in the infobox, have you removed it from there? The Rambling Man (talk) 13:35, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How do you mean "it's in the infobox", can't see any Category: links except under External links. Mjroots (talk) 14:11, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorted it, was an addition to {{Infobox Aircraft occurrence}}, which I've reverted. This needs discussion at WP level really. Mjroots (talk) 14:14, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, sorry I wasn't clear enough. I agree, it should be discussed in a wider forum. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:30, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Raised at WT:AVIATION, Heymid (talk · contribs) informed. Mjroots (talk) 14:37, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article of citation about the survivor

One of the rescuers informed me about the condition the boy was found. This condition hasn't been released to the press, since the rescue worker isn't allowed to talk to the press. He and another rescuer can confirm the condition the boy was found.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Mdb10usa (talk • contribs) 15:12, 12 May 2010

What you are saying constitutes original research. We can only report what reliable sources have reported. Mjroots (talk) 15:26, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]