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I have archived some recent discussions early: see User talk:Jubileeclipman/Archive 7. Thanks --Jubileeclipman 03:47, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Rollback

Just saw one of your edit summaries on Mono's talk - I'm sure you'll get it if you apply. BTW, your edit notice is creepy - what did you type to make it recognize me :)? Airplaneman 22:47, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)He used {{REVISIONUSER}}. (Similar to how I use {{BASEPAGENAME}} on my warning templates). I believe a whole list can be found at WP:MAGIC. Brambleclawx 22:53, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
LOL! It even recognises me: "Welcome to my talkpage Jubileeclipman" But yeah, it's: "Welcome to my talkpage {{REVISIONUSER}}". I think I might ask my old adopter, MSGJ, directly rather than RfPe or rumaging through that that Admin cat. Might ask for Autoreview while I'm at it Jubileeclipman 23:07, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Nice find, Bcx! Airplaneman 00:09, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. And good luck getting Rollback, Jubilee! Brambleclawx 00:11, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
Thanks guys! Any idea why Qui in IE8 generates the message I posted above, BTW? --Jubileeclipman 00:16, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
One of Martin's TPS's gave me Rollback but not Autoreview. I agree that the latter is less than useful for an editor such as me --Jubileeclipman 15:39, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
I hate to start a new section to address this, and none of you can probably ever answer this question properly, but last night, while trying to carry out step three of the AfD process on Twilight: The Musical, the spam filter decided to act up, and deny from doing so. It claimed I added a link(s) to some examiner.com which apparently is on the Wikipedia blacklist, even though I did not add such a link. (I don't suggest going there, as I have no idea what it is, and it's probably blacklisted for a reason). Anyways, have any of you ever come across something like this, and if so, did you ever find out why? (This was perhaps the worst possible first experience into the AfD world) Brambleclawx 22:33, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
Examiner.com is a load of people sounding off as if they know everything and pretending to be "experts". Not exactly reliable, then... I only know that because I tried to add it once then got told off by the Wikisoftware thingy that you came across. Are you using Twinkle to AfD Or are you doing it manually? I found the AfD anyway. Not sure what happened but it seems to have resolved itself as phase 3 when through OK (at least, eventually): Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2010_May_18#Twilight:_The_Musical --Jubileeclipman 22:44, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
Manually. You should know by now! I don't use any tools, Twinkle , Huggle, or Igloo. (or for that matter Rollback). Anyways, I freaked out pretty badly, and went to WP:VPT and begged for help. Someone did it for me. Brambleclawx 22:50, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Oh yeah... I forgot for a moment there! Um. Perhaps the problem is that the previous AfD links to Examiner (it was only blacklisted very recently)? Not sure... but that would be my guess. Presumably, the VPT editors didn't know either? Anyhoo... I wouldn't get freaked out too much: as I say I got that scary page, too, once and I survived! Let me know if it happens again though (i.e. next time you AfD...) --Jubileeclipman 23:00, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Sure. I'm getting busy in RL again (teachers just love piling on work as exams approach), so I will be semi-wikibreak until... maybe Jun. 24. I will still be watchlist patrolling everyday if possible though. Brambleclawx 23:18, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
OK. My big move to my dad's place is coming up very soon so I'll probably not be on-line much as I frantically try to sort out my packing at the last minute, as usual—I have moved about 20 times in as many years! When I get there, he will be my number one priority, obviously, so I won't be active much, though I will keep in touch with my adoptee, WP:CTM and you lot as best I can. Cheers --Jubileeclipman 23:30, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
I'm in the same situation as BcX. If you haven't checked :), my edits have been decreasing the past few days. I'll be back in early June! Airplaneman 23:31, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
P.S. Oh, and Brambleclawx, consider getting another browser (such as Google Chrome) so you can use tools. That way, it'll make tedious stuff like AfD listing and vandal warning easier. Airplaneman 23:31, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
P.P.S. I also tried and failed in creating a blog (www.airplaneman.blogger.com) for out more random comments. My account got disabled and they asked for my mobile phone number for confirmation...?!?! So in short, I have run into a roadblock in that front for now. And I'm constructing a Wiki for a school project. I'm putting my Wiki-skills to good use! It's quite epicly exciting :) erm... yes, that was Wiki-related, totally... Airplaneman 23:35, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
AFAIK, the Cat hates tools: he avoids them like the plague. As far as the off-WP stuff is concerned: why not create a Wiki? No, seriously: one of us creates a Wiki-site for themselves. Something like http://www.oscarvandillen.com/ (He is the guy whose article I sent to AfD... only to find out that he is actually this guy...) Note that you have to register to edit. We could just use our same usernames. Anyway, we re all in the same boat then—or rather separate boats sailing away from each other! BTW, I commented over at Lawler's SPI and the editor has now written a defence --Jubileeclipman 00:06, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Maybe in a couple of years, when I have my own computer, I will use tools. But for now, everything feels like a mini-adventure, and it's fun that way. I could set up either a Webs.com forum or some sort of lame-wiki-wannabe thing on Google Sites, but both require registration, which means revealing our email addresses to whoever sets up the site (and possibly the other people in the site too). Other editors, this is Wikipedia related: it has to do with setting up a way to not use Wikipedia for anything too MYSPACEY. Brambleclawx 01:45, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Just in case you misunderstand here, read the edit summary :) Airplaneman 00:52, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Understood :) --Jubileeclipman 00:57, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Forgive me if I seem a bit demeaning or anything, but I think you might be in need of an actual wikibreak.; you know, sometimes, after an absence, we feel recharged, and more ready to work on Wikipedia. Just a suggestion. Brambleclawx 01:06, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
You are probably right, actually. I have kind of blown my self out recently first with the infobox RfC then with the MoS audits. No wonder I am a bit erratic at the moment. Thank you Brambleclawx. I might look up that bot that stops you logging in actually --Jubileeclipman 01:12, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Not a bot; its a javascript thing that is inserted into your monobook.js, though I guess its vector.js now. Be careful with it, we don't want to lose you forever. Brambleclawx 01:17, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
You can still edit as an IP, though... Anyway, a week or or so with or without the enforcer wouldn't be a bad idea and I really do need to look after my dad rather than worry about things like "is X an RS or not?", "what exactly does Y mean in in such-and-such a guideline?", the behaviour of user-Z. Wikipediholicism really does exist! --Jubileeclipman 01:37, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Yep, it exists. I see proof of it when I find that I've been using the computer for so long that the monitor starts getting flickery from overheating probably. Brambleclawx 01:41, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Nope that's your eyes going all funny! I am serious. Anyway, I am still trying to decode the instructions for the enforcer... There is a much better explanation on the talkpage and I am really tempted to copy in over to the project page! Must resist... Must be Vector skin, though, that needs ch... I think I get it though: you put the date as say var date = { year: 2010, month: 6, day: 1} and time as var time = { hours: 20, minutes: 0, seconds: 0 } if you want to be away until 8pm (UTC) on 1st June 2010. Correct? Javascript confuses the heck out of me... (And I don't touch infobox coding etc, BTW) --Jubileeclipman 01:57, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure... I've never used it, and I'm not fluent in Javascript. Good luck. Brambleclawx 02:02, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

But... but... Anyway, I asked on the talkpage. Not sure how often anyone looks at at it though as it still say monobook as you pointed out! --Jubileeclipman 02:08, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

The Wikipedia Signpost: 17 May 2010

Thanks!

I totally forgot to change my age. Gracias!!! Homework2 TalkWhat I do 00:49, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

That's OK! --Jubileeclipman 00:50, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

"Intervals" template

Thanks for the thanks. Just a passing musician incorporating some tricks I've seen in other templates. 212.84.121.75 (talk) 01:45, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Great! Hope you continue your great editing with or without an account! --Jubileeclipman 01:49, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Template loop

Did you mean to create a template loop here "User:Jubileeclipman/Ironbox"? I was just cleaning up the category and couldn't tell if this one was intentional. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:57, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)It was intentional; please see here Airplaneman 02:04, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
Thanks Plastikspork. As Airplaneman says, it is indeed intentional. I was just pushing the idea of overtemplating to the extreme on that page. I might work it a little to make my points clearer sometime. For example, all too often infoboxen merely repeat exactly what the article says so transcluding the article into the template is an attempt to make that point clear. Obviously, the loop is thus part of the "joke" --Jubileeclipman 20:01, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

"Dom & Roland" vs. "Dom and Roland"

Hello, could you have a look at various pages which contain both denominations? There should be a standard, and i think his official nickname is "Dom & Roland". --TylerDurdenn (talk) 21:12, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Sure. Don't know much about him but my first impression from glancing at the page at Dom & Roland is that the ampersand is most likely because "and" it far too suggestive of two actual people (e.g. Morecambe and Wise, etc) while the symbol, being less understood these days, can be used in a subtly ironic manner just as appears to be the case in "Dom & Roland". Roland being the make of his sampler thus becomes an "extension" of Dom or his "shadow" or whatever. Maybe it's a bit like a joke version of adverts proclaiming "Vanessa-Mae & her violin" or whomever in other words. Perhaps, Ant & Dec can be explained because they are often seen as the "same" person—i.e. the exact opposite of Dom & Roland who is one person often seen as "two". OTOH, the use of ampersands v "and" is by no means consistent on WP, so all my ideas above might just be pure speculation. You have me fascinated by this question, now though, so I'll check it out --Jubileeclipman 21:40, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
Looking at this further, this was a good call, IMO. The page was moved in 2005 from Dom and Roland but nobody seems to have updated the lead till now. (Unfortunately it appears to be weird sort of cut-and-paste move plus history merge so the move isn't logged in the history of Dom & Roland.) A quick Google suggests that the drummer calls himself "Dom & Roland": MySpace Also, most site I have seen so far seem to favour the ampersand: Discogs, Outlar etc. Not found any really unequivocally reliable sources yet, however, so I can't confirm anything. Even his official site is confused (in more ways than one): http://www.domandroland.com/ I strongly favour the ampersand but it only my POV, therefore... I'll hunt around more though and see what turns up --Jubileeclipman 22:30, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Help, the page needs expansion and citations --TylerDurdenn (talk) 21:17, 24 May 2010 (UTC)