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Skynet

His site is skynetrecordings. He also has a myspace site, so it's the same person who is expressing those thoughts. --TylerDurdenn (talk) 21:28, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

But how is he notable? I have a website as well. Yet, I don't have a Wikipedia article. I even have my own YouTube channel. Airplaneman 21:30, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
He toured several times around the world... so has Dom & Roland and he's apparently notable. --TylerDurdenn (talk) 21:31, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If you can find reliable sources to back up these claims, I'll remove the tag on the article for you :). Airplaneman 21:33, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
He said that he decided to stop working together with Stakka because he felt restricted. He said it himself on his website's biography. What more reliable source do you need? --TylerDurdenn (talk) 21:35, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Something other than your word. A reliable website link (not Myspace, for instance) or a book or something. Airplaneman 21:37, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Skynetrecordings.com biography --TylerDurdenn (talk) 21:39, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ah - I should have mentioned - we need something other than his autobiography to verify notability. If he's not covered by reliable third party sources, I doubt he warrants a Wikipedia article. Nothing personal, I promise! Airplaneman 21:41, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Dogs On Acid --TylerDurdenn (talk) 21:42, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Could you link the webpage, please? I would preferably prefer three or more reliable sources, linked to the page you found them from. Airplaneman 21:45, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I need help from someone who knows much more about him, i just found what there is on his site, but there are Limewax, Spor and Noisia so he's notable as well, sources just need to be found --TylerDurdenn (talk) 21:52, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Just because there are other artists out there, it doesn't mean he's notable. I need reliable sources. Without them, I can't verify that he's notable. I noticed you created User:TylerDurdenn/Skynet. Good idea; I'm removing Myspace as a source because it isn't reliable (click the link!). Airplaneman 21:54, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Internet celebrity

See here, for some thoughts about supporting additional fields in {{infobox person}}. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:50, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for moving Poul Richard Høj Jensen

Perfect you saw my mistake 10 sec earlier, your the best!NED33 (talk) 19:05, 28 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks :). Glad to help out, and nice to meet you! Airplaneman 19:06, 28 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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WikiProject Apple Inc.'s Backlog Elimination Drive

Graph of recent progress.
As the coordinator of the WikiProject Apple Inc.Backlog Elimination Drive for May 2010, I would like to thank you for your active participation in the drive.

I am writing to inform you that we have made great progress in eliminating unassessed articles. Remember the drive ends June 10, so keep working!

Once again, thank you for participating, and we look forward to a meaningful drop in the numbers due to your hard work and efforts.

Cheers, mono 18:54, 29 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

:) Airplaneman 21:31, 29 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Someone like Reflinks besides me! mono 21:55, 29 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Come to ##trode an chat with me if you'd like. Btw, every so often, please run the bot for Apple Inc.'s stats to stay up to date. mono 21:58, 29 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The bot's automatic. I find reflinks very useful. Airplaneman 22:19, 29 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Every 3 days, however we're moving faster than that. I also like Dab solver and Checklinks. mono 22:26, 29 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, as I don't have access to the bot, we'll have to live with it. I also like dab solver and checklinks as well as custom regex, which I use to fix dashes. Airplaneman 23:09, 29 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

←Wrong link. The link is at [1] and click the "update project data" link in the sidebar. mono 04:40, 30 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cool; doing now! Airplaneman 04:44, 30 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks in a large part to Ego Dodo and (yes, me), we've gone from over 500 unassessed to under 200 in less than 3 days. LET'S GOOO! :) Airplaneman 21:56, 30 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Category EMPTY! Airplaneman 16:52, 31 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nice work!

Congratulations on your great work helping clear the backlog of unassessed articles for WikiProject Apple Inc. ! It was a pleasure working with you, I would give you a shiny barnstar but I think Mono will take care of that . - EdoDodo talk 16:55, 31 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! You did great work as well, and so did the other participants and Fetchcomms. Next, on to B class checklists! (I think I'm going to do some work on Macintosh first, though). I, as well, enjoyed working with you. Airplaneman 16:57, 31 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2010 May newsletter

We are half way through round 3, with a little under a month to go. The current overall leader is Hungary Sasata (submissions), who has 570 points. He leads pool C. Pools A, B and D are led by Pennsylvania Hunter Kahn (submissions), Colorado Sturmvogel_66 (submissions) and White Shadows (submissions) respectively. Anything you worry may not receive the necessary attention before the end of the round (such as outstanding GA or FA nominations) is welcome at Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews, and please remember to continue offering reviews yourself where possible. As always, the judges are available to contact via email, IRC or their talk pages, and general discussion about the Cup is welcome on the WikiCup talk page.

Two of last year's final 8, Sweden Theleftorium (submissions) and Iceland Scorpion0422 (submissions), have dropped out of the competition, saying they would rather their place went to someone who will have more time on their hands than them next round. On a related note, a special thank you goes to White Shadows (submissions) for his help behind the scenes once again. There is currently a problem with the poster, perhaps caused by the new skin- take a look at this discussion and see if you can help. The competition has continued to tick over well with minimal need for judge intervention, so thank you to everyone making that possible. Good luck to all! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn, Fox and The ed17 20:45, 31 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

:)

I think that was pretty funny. After all of that, nobody caught that last little bit of vandalism. Hi878 (talk) 01:16, 1 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Don't get it... Airplaneman 01:18, 1 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
? What don't you get? I suppose you can't see any of it now... Well, if you look at the page history, all of the deleted revisions would help you to understand why that was funny. Except they were deleted. :) Hi878 (talk) 01:21, 1 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Didn't get what you were trying to say in your first statement :( Airplaneman 01:22, 1 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It was funny that, after all that fuss that ended in most of the revisions being deleted, there was still some vandalism left. Hi878 (talk) 01:25, 1 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I get it :D. Sorry for the delayed reaction – I'm not the best with jokes ;). Airplaneman 01:27, 1 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
:) Hi878 (talk) 01:33, 1 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Graph of recent progress.
As the coordinator of the WikiProject Apple Inc. Backlog Elimination Drive for May 2010, I would like to thank you for your active participation in the drive.

I am writing to inform you that we have assessed all project articles. We thank all of our participants, as we couldn't have done it without you!

Once again, thank you for participating, and we appreciate the meaningful drop in the numbers due to your hard work and efforts. Awards will be delivered soon to our participants!

Cheers, mono 03:27, 1 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

All Around Amazing Barnstar
For assessing over 115 articles!


Golden Wiki Award
For being one of the top two assessors,
WikiProject Apple Inc. awards you this
Golden Wiki Award.

mono 03:48, 1 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment of Redirects

Hey again! When I was looking through the newly assessed articles I noticed that we'd both assessed some redirects as Redirect or NA. When I did a bit of research and asked on IRC it seemed to me that most other WikiProjects were simply redirecting the talk pages and removing project banners, so I went ahead and did that for the articles that I could find using this list (edits here). I hope that's all fine with you, and if it's not then I'll be happy to discuss it with you and other project members so we can reach an agreement over what should be done with talk pages of redirects. - EdoDodo talk 18:29, 1 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That is kind of a trade-off. I'm not sure about it; it doesn't exactly matter. I recommend using the banner, then adding {{softredirect}} to the other talkpage. mono 18:35, 1 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm... I don't think we should have the project banner on redirect talk pages at all, because that would simply make too many pages to "maintain" (there wouldn't effectively be anything to maintain but they'd still be getting in our lists, and so would waste the time of editors and bots who are making edits to ALL of our pages). Unless there is some reason why a redirect should have a talk page (eg. ongoing discussion about changing the redirect) then it shouldn't even have one – which is why almost all of the redirect talk pages I edited were for articles that were only made redirects after the talk page had been created, and still had the banner left over from before they became redirects. Once the user is redirected to the relevant talk page of the main article then he will see our project banner, and know that the page is maintained by us, I really don't see the need to put our project banner on the actual redirect. Anyway, that's just my opinion, would be nice to hear some more project members to see what consensus is on this. - EdoDodo talk 18:51, 1 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've been redirecting all talkpages without content besides the banner. If there was content, I would asses as NA class. Airplaneman 18:54, 1 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oh okay, makes sense a guess, I preferred to move all talk page content to the main talk page (if it was relevant) and then redirect. - EdoDodo talk 18:58, 1 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I guess that's an option as well. As {{Cite mac}} doesn't seem to be ready yet, maybe we could start a B class checklist assessment drive sometime soon? Airplaneman 21:25, 1 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, I'd be happy to help out. By the way, how are you currently getting the list of articles that need to be checked for the B criteria? Are you just looking at all C articles and checking the ones that havn't been checked yet or is there a category for it? If there isn't a category perhaps we could add some code to the WikiProject banner template so that all articles that havn't yet been checked for the B article criteria and should be checked (C articles) get added to a category, shouldn't be too difficult. - EdoDodo talk 11:38, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: I've created an addition to the current WikiProject banner that would add articles to suitable categories depending on their B class checklist (categories for what issues there are, and if it is need for a B class check). It's at User:EdoDodo/TemplateSandbox and I'm ready to make it live if nobody disagrees (see project talk discussion). - EdoDodo talk 14:11, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Screenshot...
{{Cite mac}} is ready for use. All users should add
importScript('User:Mr.Z-man/refToolbar 2.0.js');
new citeTemplate('cite mac', 'Macintosh',
[ // Basic fields
{"field": "model", "label":"Model name"},
{"field": "appleNumber", "label":"Apple number"}, 
{"field": "everyURL", "label":"EverMac URL", "tooltip": "Only from after /apple/"},
{"field": "accessdate"}
], [ ]);
to their vector.js pages if they'd like to use the RefToolbar. mono 01:57, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Cool, thanks. Airplaneman 02:29, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Not working; I usually don't use the enhanced editing toolbar, but I turned it on and it doesn't work then either. Oh, and what am I supposed to look for? A button? I purged my cache as well. Airplaneman 02:52, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Screenshot with Cite mac enabled.
On the toolbar it has a drop down menu (first advanced, then special chars, then help, and then there is a "cite" menu. After that, click the templates menu and select your template. mono 02:57, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I know that much... but there's no "cite mac" button :(. Airplaneman 03:00, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
WP:BYC, try again. Did you copy and paste all that code into your vector.js? mono 03:15, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

←Somehow your formatting got scrambled. Make sure that your code above looks exactly like what's in the edit box. Then, WP:BYC and try again. mono 03:18, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Still not working... will investigate further tomorrow. Thanks for the help, Airplaneman 03:32, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Not working for me either, I copied the code and purged cache but the "Cite Mac" button isn't showing, only the other citation templates. - EdoDodo talk 18:51, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Wikipedia Signpost: 31 May 2010

Speedy deletion tagging

Hello. I'm afraid I decided to decline your speedy deletion nomination of this article because when I googled the name I found sources indicating that the subject had been an Olympic athlete. It's always a good idea to quickly google names such as this, even if the article has very limited content, as notable individuals from developing countries are poorly covered by Wikipedia and, often because of language difficulties, their articles may start from very small beginnings. CIreland (talk) 01:53, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the heads-up :). Airplaneman 02:28, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Incomplete B-Class Criteria Checklist Category

Hey, since you are assessing potential B-Class articles I thought I'd warn you that following discussion at the project's talk page a category have been created for Apple Inc. articles with incomplete B-Class checklists and a subcategory for Apple Inc. C and B Class articles with incomplete B-Class checklists, which should be checked more urgently. Do note that these categories are currently mostly empty but will slowly be filled automatically using values from our assessment banner some time soon (the delay is because of caching). Happy assessing! - EdoDodo talk 18:49, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Novels

Hey I noticed that you are a candidate in the election, as am I, and wanted to say hello. I also wanted to ask you if you knew when the election is going to begin. I noticed that the project seemed a little dead and I was wondering if they are even going to have one.Tetobigbro talk 03:08, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, nice to meet you! Yes, the project leaders have been busy in real life, and I think the election has been postponed indefinitely until the project gets rolling again. When I saw that the elections were to begin soon a few months back, I threw my name in a few days before after seeing that nobody else had volunteered. I'm focusing on WikiProject Apple Inc. right now and don't have the time to revive the project, although I have talked to Sadads about it; maybe he could work with you to get it going again! (I'd help too, but I can't guarantee 100% of my Wiki-time). Regards, Airplaneman 03:13, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I understand completely, at the moment I've kind of got a few things going on with Militar History and I don't even really have time to work on the novel articles that I have going right now. I'm trying to get better time management, but it's hard... even if it is only on the computer. And thanks, I'll talk to him.Tetobigbro talk 03:18, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK; happy editing, Airplaneman 03:20, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, do you think I should run? Not that I want to compete with y'all, but there are several positions. Oh, and no, I don't know Cross's middle name. I'll look around a little and see if I can find it. PrincessofLlyr royal court 03:23, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I do. You'd have my support :). You're more active in the novel scope than I am these days, anyway, so you'd fit the position better. Airplaneman 03:27, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say go ahead. The project needs all that it can get. And if you do a lot for the project, have at it.Tetobigbro talk 04:06, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Went for it. Should be interesting to see how this goes. PrincessofLlyr royal court 01:22, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Cool; first though, we have to see who's still active and get the word out! Airplaneman 02:00, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I find it very difficult to write about novels. What to the people who get elected do? mono 02:27, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
@Mono-Manage the project. @Airplaneman, that is being discussed here. Comments welcome. PrincessofLlyr royal court 02:31, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
OK - will look. Airplaneman 03:01, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, Airplaneman. Since you were active in the MBP gan, you know what to expect and also (likely) some reviewers. Could you look over MBA a little more and possibly enlist the reviewing help of another editor? Thanks, mono 02:29, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'll look for some - O helpful talk page stalkers, the above needs your attention :). I added a few comments a while back; try to work on those. I'm busy tomorrow but am quite free for the next three months, so I will add additional comments as well. If you haven't already, try to convert every  tech spec and everymac tech spec to a single Cite Mac (still can't get that to work). Airplaneman 03:01, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Thanks for the Welcome + A question

Hi Airplaneman,

Thanks for welcoming me to wikipedia! I am a new user, and I have a question about my first entry, named Burnaby Hospital. I used may references and abided by the Wikipedia guidelines, but when I google it in the search engine, it appears only on the 4th page. Usually, the Wikipedia entries are the 2nd or 3rd thing that shows up on Google. What can I do to make it more Search-Engine-Optimized?


Thank you!

Intern001 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.1.197.247 (talk) 06:07, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker)The point is not to make the page search-engine optimized. The point is to make it useful to the world, to inform others. It will probably climb up the ranks as people read it more often, so don't worry about it. Brambleclawx 17:31, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia; I think I remember patrolling Burnaby Hospital a few days ago! As for search engine optimization, you and I have no control over that (as Brambleclawx said above). I believe Google's complex search algorithms do, so we can't change that unless you go to Google and help them write the code for their search engine (or Bing or Yahoo! search, for the matter). Many references don't count, sadly; just make sure they are reliable. All in all, it would be good to look at the good article criteria to see how you can improve the article you wrote, as well as the huge manual of style (read it in increments!). Oh, and you can sign comments by typing ~~~~, which will magically produce your username and talk page link when you save. Please ask any other questions if you have any. Happy editing, Airplaneman 18:19, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Some more suggestions:
  • See my changes to the article for formatting tips and other things
  • Burnaby Hospital Foundation could go as a subsection to the Burnaby Hospital page
  • On your editing toolbar, click the "cite" button. Choose your template, for example Cite web, and fill out the fields. Add the reference, and it should be similar to the way you manually cited it. It's faster and has more features, so you might want to consider using it for future referencing.
  • I have created Burnaby General Hospital as a redirect to Burnaby Hospital.
  • Overall, this is one of the best new articles I've seen (especially from a new user!) Most are in dire need of attention or aren't articles (for example, "My friend is cool", etc.) Great work.
Airplaneman 18:32, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Thank you!
Airplaneman - Thank for your participation and support in my RfA.

I can honestly say that your comments and your trust in me are greatly appreciated.

Please let me know if you ever have any suggestions for me as an editor, or comments based on my admin actions.

Thank you!  7  22:48, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! RE: Jack Mitchell

Hi, thanks for doing the Reflinking properly on Jack Mitchell (jockey). I must admit I wouldn't know how to do this - is there a guide, somewhere? Also, one of the links has come up as a dead link, but is working for me (The times online one). Could you possibly fix this, or tell me how I would fix it? Much appreciated. SmokingNewton (MESSAGE ME) 15:16, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Reflinks is a tool that fills in bare links using cite templates (you can also do this manually, but it takes some time). WP:REFLINKS is where you need to go. I have it bookmarked because I use it on a regular basis :). I'll check out the dead link (it was tagged by the tool as such) and if it works, I'll fill it out manually. Airplaneman 15:25, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! I believe you were the first Wikipedian I ever spoke to, nice to see you again. :). I've been away for a couple of months with a job abroad, but I'm back and more active than ever. SmokingNewton (MESSAGE ME) 15:28, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]