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Vogue cover

I am not a Wikipedia person, but for what it's worth, the poster alongside the Vogue cover is not the right one. It should be a WWI propaganda poster--Google "destroy this mad brute" and the actual comparison should be immediately obvious. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.174.58.210 (talk) 13:29, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It is the right one according to the supplied reference. However, we can also have the "mad brute" poster if there exists a reliable source that makes the comparison. —LOL T/C 21:52, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I found one from The Huffington Post, but I'm not confident in my writing skills. —LOL T/C 21:58, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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your wrong hes a small forward AcesUpMaSleeve (talk) 23:00, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Defense

He just made the 1st All-defensive team, and was runner up for defensive player of the year. Could we delete that portion that says, "he has yet to be featured", in the player profile? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.45.78.238 (talk) 21:50, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Thanks for the catch. —LOL T/C 22:55, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV

The article is heavily biased in his favor —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.118.147.70 (talk) 23:09, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How so? —LOL T/C 23:27, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The "personal life" section isn't a bibliographical narrative, but a list of odd facts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.246.148.167 (talk) 05:50, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, the article reads like a list of odd statistical achievements that was written by a sports commentator who loves Lebron. "achieving the feat in style with a slam-dunk over 11-time All-Star Kevin Garnett" "It was his first career buzzer beater that sealed the deal with a win." "At the end of the last game...there were MVP chants for him in The Palace of Auburn Hills."

Half this article reads like it was written by James's PR person. The Player Profile section really needs to be toned down, particularly the part about his "remarkable" and "unheard of" passing ability. If that is a neutral point of view, then I am the King of Siam. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.28.78.34 (talk) 00:40, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

First Name

Sorry, first post in Wikipedia. I don't want to break rules or anything but just to point out something about the early life portion of this article. It is said that his mother named him "LeBron" because it means "The Strength" in french. Well, as a french canadian, I can assure that LeBron doesn't mean anything in French. "Le" is a french word that can be translated in english as "the", but "Bron" is not a french word. The nearest french words could be "Brun" which means "Brown" in english or "Bon" wich means "Good" in english. So I guess, either the mother believes it is french and she is confused with another langage or someone just invented that part. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.191.104.36 (talk) 17:08, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I couldn't find any sources for that line, so I just removed it. Zagalejo^^^ 18:27, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Couldn't find a source but I've definitely heard that his Mom thought that it meant The Strength, maybe because of the English word brawn? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 171.64.181.143 (talk) 05:50, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Video confiscation fiasco

Short version: LeBron got dunked on by a college kid, and confiscated tapes from bystanders who recorded it. Might be notable enough to mention? JoshDuffMan (talk) 15:23, 9 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's a little bit of an stretch (actually, a lie) to say that LeBron himself "ordered" the video's to be confiscated. -13:30, March 25, 2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.189.188.252 (talk) 17:31, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Public Image

The section about him not shaking hands with the Orlando Magic and not talking to the media about the loss to the Magic, should be at least mention(or completely moved to)in the public image section. He was fined and drew a lot of criticism for it, after all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Orbegoso (talk • contribs) 22:54, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alternative article images

Lebron James press conference about More Than a Game:

Endorsements - Add State Farm

{{editsemiprotected}} Include State Farm in the endorsement section. Sentence could read, "James has endorsement contracts with Nike, Sprite, Glacéau, Bubblicious, Upper Deck, and State Farm." For proof of endorsement, visit statefarm.com/lebron.LoriKB (talk) 19:23, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

 Done, But with http://www.usatoday.com/money/advertising/2008-02-13-lebron-state-farm_N.htm as an alternative, independent reference. AJCham 19:46, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Akron Hammer

The Akron Hammer should be included in this page. --Glabangsta666 (talk) 01:25, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's not a real nickname. Sportsnation admitted as much. Don't buy everything they say since they do it to be funny, not to be factually accurate.--Giants27(Contribs|WP:CFL) 02:02, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
267 Google hits and the first page consists entirely of false positives and SportsNation-related pages that talk about how this should be made an "official" nickname. Judging from those results, I'm pretty sure the nickname currently fails WP:RS. —LOL T/C 04:39, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Akron Hammer has been searched 20,900 times on Google, its legit. --Glabangsta666 (talk) 14:11, 6 November 2009 (UTC) This is a fabricated nickname with someone trying to make it legit through Wikipedia. There are only seven Google hits, and Wikipedia is the first hit with a bunch of chat room posts. --Guyatrie (talk) 16:37, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

7 hits? Try 1580 hits using your link Krawhitham (talk) 04:54, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Try reading the time stamp of the comment. The number of hits has increased in the past three weeks because this is a recent fad but regardless, we need reliable sources to establish its notability. —LOL T/C 08:04, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You can see here where SportsNation is on Twitter trying to make it legit (""The Akron Hammer" has already been removed from LeBron's Wikipedia page...It's on you guys to make it official"). It's a pretty stupid nickname to try to have stick. --Guyatrie (talk) 16:41, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Google hits don't establish relevance or actuality.--Giants27(Contribs|WP:CFL) 00:59, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
But surely a serious lack of coverage implies that there wouldn't be any reliable sources for today's athlete. Regardless, I've no clue how Glabangsta got "20,900 times on Google" because the search volume is so small that Google Insights can't even display a graph for the past 12 months.[1] —LOL T/C 01:25, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A nickname is what people like to call him, not what he wants to be called, so clearly based upon all the talk about the nickname it is legit. Just because LaBron doesn't like it doesn't mean it shouldn't be part of his story. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.180.219.134 (talk) 03:04, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A notable nickname is used in reliable publications, none of which use "The Akron Hammer" (as far as I've looked). We don't care whether or not LeBron likes it. —LOL T/C 04:49, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Like ESPN and local news? The fact that the argument about whether or not to include it proves that it is a widely used name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.180.219.134 (talk) 04:40, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Can you show that ESPN and local news use it? A person on a talk show that happens to be owned by ESPN doesn't actually represent ESPN. Wikipedia only mentions notable nicknames; "wide use" is not sufficient for inclusion. Furthermore, an argument doesn't prove that it is "widely used". I can start an argument about including "Wince Carter" as Vince's nickname with lots of support from Carter-haters around the internet, but it's no better than "The Akron Hammer" until we have some reliable sources. —LOL T/C 06:59, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Change Main Picture

File:LeBronCorrectHat.jpg
LeBron at a book signing in NE Ohio.

{{editsemiprotected}} I don't know what Yankees/Knicks fan decided that a picture of LeBron sporting a Yankee hat should be the main photo for the Cleveland Cavaliers' franchise small forward, but I, for one, don't believe I'm alone in thinking that it's absolutely ridiculous. If Wikipedia is insisting we use an off-court image for the main photo, I suggest this following image, which acknowledges James' history in NE Ohio, his tenure with Cleveland, and also respects fans of James and the Cavaliers. --CastleMike123 (talk) 08:18, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The current image, while perhaps less-than-ideal, is at the very least free. The one you uploaded is almost definitely not free and will most likely be deleted from commons in five days. See WP:NFC. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 19:27, 17 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
There has to be a free image of him from this book signing of his trip in China somewhere. I am new to this and just learning the ropes. How can I check to see if an image I find is free? Thanks. --147.9.237.48 (talk) 22:44, 17 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
If someone else took it, the picture belongs to them, and that copyright owner would have to release the image under our licenses. All images are automatically copyrighted. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 22:51, 17 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
For the lead image of a professional basketball player, it's much more appropriate to have him in uniform than in civvies with a baseball cap. I suggest this image, which was in the infobox prior to the addition of the current one. —LOL T/C 04:06, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think the underlying logic in the move was by moving File:LebronFT2.jpg down, we could include more images which is usually better. There are already plenty of images down there, so it probably wouldn't hurt. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 04:57, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
There is another picture of him in the Yankees cap from only moments before or after the main image on this page was taken lower down on the page. "More" photos? Sure. But the two images are nearly identical. Having both adds nothing, and if you're going to have two similar images on the page, they might as well be him in uniform, not sporting a Yankees hat.--98.204.52.140 (talk) 19:00, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The new image is great, JoeJohnson2, nice find. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 13:29, 21 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

hi —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.215.150.49 (talk) 21:21, 30 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nickname

{{editsemiprotected}} also nicknamed "The Akron Hammer"

I may be making a name for myself for not knowing something that may be common knowledge here, but Not done for now: can you cite a source that notes this is a nickname of his? --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 06:16, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It's basically a forced meme from SportsNation. They've deliberately encouraged people to add the nickname to the article: [2]. There are lots of Google hits for "Akron Hammer", but relatively little from established sources. Zagalejo^^^ 20:56, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Youngest MVP?

Wes Unseld was younger than Lebron when he won his MVP award in 1969... Unseld was 23 I believe...This should be changed when it says that Lebron is the youngest MVP in league history... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.24.108.174 (talk) 23:38, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think Wilt Chamberlain was also 23 when he won his first MVP award. The references in that section don't actually say that James was the youngest, so I'll just remove the statement. Thanks. Zagalejo^^^ 00:16, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2008-2009 Season

Lebron did not play in the final 08-09 home game, which if they won, would have tied the celtics with the best winning home season ever. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GentCastle (talk • contribs) 05:53, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lebron James should be listed Forward-Guard on WIKI

Hey, Lebron James shouldnt be known for only "small forward" in WIKI, he is only "listed" at SF because he started there most of the time, he is more accurately a "point-forward" (which is more of a role), he should be known as a Guard-Forward here.

Lebron was drafted PG/SG 2003, Lebron is basicaly a PG starting the SF and playing the role of a "POINT-FORWARD".

2003-2004 season Lebron started PG the entire season and even SG sometimes.

2004-2005 season Lebron started mostly SG and also PG/SF

2005-2006 season Lebron started mostly SF, sometimes PG.

2006-2007 season Lebron started mostly SF, sometimes PG or would rotate to & play PG during lineub subs often.

2007-2008 season Lebron started mostly SF, sometimes PG or would rotate to & play PG during lineup subs often.

2008-2009 season Lebron started mostly SF, sometimes PG/PF or would rotate to & play PG/PF during lineup substitutions often (he played even Center 2-3 times this season).

2009-2010 season Lebron started mostly SF, sometimes PG/PF or would rotate to & play PG/PF during lineup substitutions often.

So... Lebron is not just a SF, lebron is more accurately a "Guard-Forward" or a "PG/SF".

Lebron himself when asked in a interview, he said he considers himself anything, he considers himself a Guard/PG in a Forwards body.

In similar fashion like Penny Hardaway or Magic Johnson, Oscar Robertson whom he compares himself to and whom everybody compare Lebron to —Preceding unsigned comment added by Enesjusufi (talk • contribs) 06:45, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Crushed Chalk???

I saw the picture of LeBron's pre-game ritual. And it reads the he tosses up crushed chalk, but I have watched some Cavs game and he uses baby powder. ---- —Preceding unsigned comment added by DA Fernandez (talk • contribs) 23:45, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lebron with 8.6 (8.57) assists per game makes history!!

Lebron with 8.6 (8.57) assists per game had the highest assist averaging season of any SG/SF/PF/C in NBA history!

Lebron has with his 8.57 assists per game also passed Wilt Chamberlains 8.56 APG for the highest assist average in NBA history by a non-pointguard. (or at least tied with Wilt if you look by only the simple 8.6 average)

Thought you should bring something about this up on his 2009-10 season here, its a huge achievement! Its official now as the season is over. . —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.211.158.101 (talk) 23:21, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The sentence that states 7.0 assists per game for a player his size is unheard of is completely untrue. Magic Johnson was an inch taller and averaged 11.2 apg for his career. Larry Bird was 6'9 and also had similar assist totals as James. The notion that such a feat is "unheard of" is quite simply not true. It may be uncommon, but it has happened. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.28.78.34 (talk) 00:35, 9 June 2010 (UTC) [reply]

the new jersy nets !!!!

i didn't know lebron was playing for the nets what am i missing? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.251.14.24 (talk) 04:41, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article is currently a hotspot for vandals. —LOL T/C 07:25, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from 72.188.226.194, 14 May 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} Please change the 'new jersey nets' to the 'cleveland cavaliers' because cleveland is lebron james' nba team....source = (nba.com)72.188.226.194 (talk) 04:50, 14 May 2010 (UTC)john napoli[reply]

72.188.226.194 (talk) 04:50, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Looks like this has been corrected. :) Avicennasis @ 07:03, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

LeBrick

When I searched for "LeBrick James" I wasn't redirected to his page. Why is this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.181.103.51 (talk) 05:13, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Because no reliable sources mention a "LeBrick James". —LOL T/C 07:23, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Protection

I temporarily fully protected due to vandalism. I will drop it to semi in a couple of hours. Enigmamsg 05:18, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Zero tolerance of BLP violations

This page was full-protected and is currently semi-protected for a reason. There have been repeated BLP violations stuck in the article, and this will not be tolerated. Further violators may be blocked without warning. Enigmamsg 17:49, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2010 Offseason

Please allow me to create a subsection under Pro Career to chronical Lebron James free agent offseason. From Michael Gloomberg to Scores Night Club offering Lebron "Lap Dances for Life" to come play in New York. I expect their to be MANY noteworthy offers to Lebron this offseason and i would love to assist in documenting them.

Lebron's Religion

Is Lebron an active Christian? Anyone know?

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