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In review

Note: If you are adding nominations for specific dates, holidays or other special reasons please add to the Specials section and NOT HERE. Also, please check the archives in case the motto has been submitted and subsequently approved before. If this is the case try to think up another motto instead. Otherwise feel free to add your suggestion below.

→ I'm a revolutionary; money means nothing to me.

—La Pianista ♫ ♪ 02:15, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose - in favor of Edit 1. —mono 04:22, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edit 1: → I'm a revolutionary; money means nothing to me

Different links. --—mono 04:22, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support - Alright. I was afraid to do that, though, as links to WP:EDIAN are far overused. Most of the time, they're also redundant. And repetitive. —La Pianista ♫ ♪ 04:23, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

→ Greetings and bienvenue.

Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 23:49, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak support - In the spirit of User:Nutiketaiel, it could do for a slow news day. —La Pianista ♫ ♪ 01:53, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • LOL, and very weak support - I don't know if this is the case for western countries, but in Hong Kong you always see the word 'welcome' in many languages. They paint them on walls and all that. :P Also, Nutiketaiel's legacy remains even though he has not been an active member for some time... Anyway, I don't see how this will be too useful, but... Kayau Voting IS evil 01:56, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it depends where in the Western countries. In places like San Francisco, New York City, parts of Canada and Eastern Europe, you'll see some places doing that, mostly at airports. :P Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 00:49, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Support - When we have an emergency day. :) ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 23:47, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - Let's make our emergency date August 12. —mono 04:19, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

One step at a time.

I'm not sure where this is from, but I thought I'd give it a try! Derild4921☼ 14:22, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Strong oppose. Kayau Voting IS evil 14:37, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Oppose - Used before. ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 23:46, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak oppose - Reused before, but not too recently. —mono 04:18, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support - Length of time between mottoes doesn't negate the fact that we're repeating them. However, if we do hit a dearth of mottoes in the future (which, in all likelihood, may happen), we should have this one saved up. It's not half bad, either. —La Pianista ♫ ♪ 04:27, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

→ So much time, and so little to do! Strike that! Reverse it!

I just feel this quote sums up Wikipedia editors/editing thoroughly. We probably all spend so much time here, and yet there is always more to be done than we can get done in that amount of time... I couldn't find this having been used previously, but I would think this would have been, so I could very well be wrong. --khfan93 03:30, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose - you cannot expect that you reader understands what message you are trying to bring without reading your message. Please add some links. Kayau Voting IS evil 05:23, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Kayau, that was slightly bitey of you. How is one who is new to MOTD supposed to know that straight off-the-bat? There were nicer ways of introducing the concept. Anyway. I'm thinking that linking that to the GOCE would be a good idea. Other ideas?sonia♫♪ 06:26, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • What the motto means to me and what it means to the reader will always be different. There is no need to force an interpretation of a quote unto someone. But how about this:
      • Sorry, it was not meant to be bitey. To be honest I don't understand how GOCE would work... Kayau Voting IS evil 13:45, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose No links. ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 23:45, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - Unlinked —mono 04:22, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

→ So much time, and so little to do! Strike that! Reverse it!

It's not perfect... but I added links! --khfan93 13:35, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment - I think this is kind of 'unparallel', since to do is linked whereas time is not. And reverse is linked while strike is not. One can link strike to CTW (though that would be a bit trite). I can't really think of a link to time though... Help:Calendar? Of course that's rather silly. WP:7AGES? Kayau Voting IS evil 13:45, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - I'll put in my ideas. ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 23:45, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

→ So much time, and so little to do! Strike that! Reverse it!

I like this. I don't think strike needs to be linked. ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 23:45, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

→ I have been an echo. You have been an echo. Wikipedia has been an echo. The world has been an echo. But your spirit never has.

I think that we ourselves are just echos and our spirits control our lives. I thought it would be good to express that. I got the motto from Enya's song "La Soñadora, from the line "He sido un eco" or "I have been an echo"RascalthePeaceful (t/a/c) 21:53, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose - I don't suppose the word 'Wikipedia' appeared in the song? :) please do no modify quotes. Kayau Voting IS evil 09:13, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Hey, i just made it up; it's only the "I have been an echo" part that appeared in the song, and also, sorry about the editing. I kept on forgetting things, so I added them in. RascalthePeaceful (t/a/c) 21:37, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Neutral - First of all, don't have an arrow if you made up most of it. Second, the linking is quite a bit off. I'm going to nominate one with different linkings. I'll use this motto the way that it is. If it turns out we shouldn't use it, then... Then reject it. ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 23:42, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have been an echo. You have been an echo. Wikipedia has been an echo. The world has been an echo. But your spirit never has.

Better, perhaps? ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 23:42, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support - Madeup, but good. Could we put a link to WP:OR in there? —mono 04:28, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Considerable support - Pretty deep for a madeup; that's why I like it. AtrHarOrd (talk) 14:25, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

→ Thus sang they, in the English boat,
An holy and a cheerful note,
And all the way, to guide their chime,
With falling oars they kept the time.

Andrew Marvell (1621–1678), Bermudas (1653) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:41, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

recycle Reopened - not enough discussion. Simply south (talk) 13:49, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment - 'an holy'? Kayau Voting IS evil 12:27, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Yes- My English teacher says "an history". Apparently "h" is supposed to be prepended with "an", but no one does it any more. I have no problems with it where the "h" is silent (an hour) and the reverse where a consonant sounds at the start of a word though it is nonexistent (a uniform) But it seems most people disagree with me on either one point or the other. sonia♫♪ 21:23, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • Weak support - it's always the last link that spoils it all... but the rest are great. Kayau Voting IS evil 09:23, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

→ Has your peace trip big love ship got a seat left for me?

"Gone" by Hate Dept. form their 1998 album Technical Difficulties –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:41, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

recycle Reopened - not enough discussion. Simply south (talk) 13:49, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak oppose—I don't understand it all that well. Belugaboy 13:57, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak oppose Same as Belugaboy. Derild4921☼ 22:41, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
recycle Reopened - Lack of consensus. —mono 04:29, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

→ Oh, swiftly glides the bonnie boat,
Just parted from the shore,
And to the fisher's chorus-note,
Soft moves the dipping oar!

Joanna Baillie (1762–1851). "Oh, Swiftly Glides the Bonnie Boat" (1815). A brief note: History of Wikipedia is in the mainspace, but it's about Wikipedia, so I think it should work. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:56, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

→ Oh, swiftly glides the bonnie boat,
Just parted from the shore,
And to the fisher's chorus-note,
Soft moves the dipping oar!

Seems to make quite a bit more sense. ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 23:32, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

recycle Reopened - ALL: not enough discussion —mono 04:30, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

→ Magis
("The more")

A Jesuit phrase, which means "the more", taken from "ad majorem Dei gloriam ("for the greater glory of God"), referring to the philosophy of doing more. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:56, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

→ Magis
("The more")

Edit 1 with Wikipedia:Be bold instead of Wikipedia:Contributing to Wikipedia. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:56, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak support - I like the idea of being bold, but the other one seemed better because it emphasized that the more edits, the merrier. Belugaboy 13:56, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Conditional Support - In favor of the original. That one seems to fit better. ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 23:31, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - in favor of original —mono 04:31, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

→ While mantling on the maiden's cheek,
Young roses kindled into thought.

Thomas Moore (1779–1852), Evenings in Greece: Evening II: "Song" (1832) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:56, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

recycle Reopened - Not enough participation. —mono 04:31, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

→ "Break the glass".
"We can't, it's Beatle-proof."
"Nothing is Beatle-proof."

It's worth a shot. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 02:31, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support - I like that! PrincessofLlyr royal court 02:33, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Very Weak Oppose - It seems more fitting to have "Break" be WP:VANDAL, but then that sends a bad message, so... I don't know. The message seems weird no matter how you link it. ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 03:00, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Try reading it just as the links (and words in between), not the words that are linked. That seems to work for me. PrincessofLlyr royal court 03:22, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    But if you look at the words, it doesn't work, and the words are what you see first. And if you don't have popups, it makes it even harder to get the meaning. ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 03:28, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I agree with Hi878. Besides, it seems to imply that protected pages are all replaced by pending changes. Kayau Voting IS evil 08:46, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose •martyx• tkctgy 10:12, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on Condition—Make Beatle into some other workable pun, everything else I like. Belugaboy 14:06, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - agreeing with Hi878 —mono 01:41, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

→ Never fight a battle of wits with someone you suspect is unarmed.

This originated from a British Adult "comic" called Viz - it was used in an episode of "Sid the Sexist", when he was talking to Baz about dealing with blondes. However, I feel it fits Wikipedia in the sense of Not biting the newcomers and Assuming good faith - always assume the person you are dealing with may need things explaining, politely. Personal warnings are much friendlier, since if they're kept civil, they can encourage conversation and discussion. In short, don't assume you're talking with someone who knows everything, it's highly unlikely. BarkingFish Talk to me | My contributions 23:40, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose - No links. I'll try some below. ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 23:45, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Comment: You may be right, if you want to amend the above proposal rather than starting a new one, feel free. I wasn't entirely sure how this nom thingy worked :) BarkingFish Talk to me | My contributions 23:48, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    The way you do it is adding a new proposal if you have a new linking idea (or want to add links). I went ahead and took them away again, so that we have this nom and mine being the way they were. ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 01:36, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    That's why I was confused! And then I had to change my !vote. Oh well. PrincessofLlyr royal court 01:31, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

→ Never fight a battle of wits with someone you suspect is unarmed.

Edit 1 Would this work? I don't think that WP:AGF would work, though. ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 23:45, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

→ Never fight a battle of wits with someone you suspect is unarmed.

Edit 2 I'm justing throwing my two cents in. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 23:58, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Neutral-ish, leaning towards oppose - I don't think the page quite fits with the quote. ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 01:36, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

→ Never fight a battle of wits with someone you suspect is unarmed.

Edit 3 Don't bite the newcomers? •martyx• tkctgy 10:15, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support - this seems to fit in better, looking at the linking, with what I was originally considering. BarkingFish Talk to me | My contributions 21:41, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support ~ this is my favourite and it is very close to the original idea/proposal. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:52, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strongly oppose all - I'm surprised no one has seen this. Implying that newbies don't have wits is a way of biting them. —La Pianista ♫ ♪ 16:04, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Huh? - It's not implying they have no wits! If anything, they have lots of wits, because we are implying that if you battle wits with them, you will lose! --Smaug123 (talk) 21:32, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - gee, you're right, La Pianista! That's one way of biting them. Kayau Voting IS evil 09:21, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - I don't really think that any linking works... ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 03:59, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose all. - Nothing works for me. —mono 04:36, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

→ Never fight a battle of wits with someone you suspect is unarmed.

Edit 4 - Link change. —La Pianista ♫ ♪ 04:40, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • support- omgz one that actually works! :P sonia♫♪ 04:42, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • As does everything I do, sweetheart. Everything I do. *casually brushes dust off shoulder* —La Pianista ♫ ♪ 04:53, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

→ Never fight a battle of wits with someone you suspect is unarmed.

Edit 5 - Moving the last link - an alternative that I have just conjured from the depths of my miraculous brain. —La Pianista ♫ ♪ 04:42, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

→ We want to achieve democracy without violence or vulgarity.

That's what she always says every time these people are mentioned. Not biased, just a motto. Kayau Voting IS evil 13:25, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

→ Extreme democracy has caused the cultural revolution.

Kayau Voting IS evil 13:25, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

→ Extreme democracy has caused the cultural revolution.

Edit one - Kayau Voting IS evil 09:17, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

→ Excellence and opportunity for each learner.

~NerdyScienceDude (✉ • ✐ • ✍) 00:15, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support - Sounds good. ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 00:17, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Neutral - does every newbie need a new article and adoption? Kayau Voting IS evil 00:19, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Support - they don't need to, but the opportunities are there for them. --Smaug123 (talk) 07:26, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I found being adopted useful when I started on WP •martyx• tkctgy 15:29, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Neutral because I do not like the first link. "Excellence" reminds me of featured contents/articles/lists/images and portal or awards/barnstars and not of new articles (which generally are STUBS.) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:25, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Neutral - Don't exactly agree... —mono 01:33, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

→ I'm a doctor, not a physicist!

There should be no need for a user to revert vandalism; it's the vandals that waste so much time. --Smaug123 (talk) 20:55, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

→ I'm a doctor, not a soldier!

Edit 1 ~ Also said, I think. The last link is more appropriate now, I think --Smaug123 (talk) 07:34, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

→ I'm a doctor, not a physicist!

Edit 2 with WP:WWISG and WP:SUCKS –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:35, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

→ I'm a doctor, not a physicist!

Edit 3 with WP:WRITERS and WP:NOTLEX –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:35, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

→ Labor omnia vincit
("Hard work conquers all")

The phrase appears in Virgil's Georgics, Book I, in the form Labor omnia uicit improbus ("Dishonest work overcomes all things"). Motto of many labor movements, many townships, cities, and states. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:46, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

→ Labor omnia vincit
("Hard work conquers all")

Edit 2 with Wikipedia:Contributing to Wikipedia and WP:READERS –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:34, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

→ Labor omnia vincit
("Hard work conquers all")

Edit 2 with Wikipedia:Contributing to Wikipedia and Wikipedia:Readers first –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:34, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Second Preference - Second favorite. This works, but I like Edit 1 a tiny bit more. ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 23:23, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

→ Who has not seen that feeling born of flame
Crimson the cheek at mention of a name?
The rapturous touch of some divine surprise
Flash deep suffusion of celestial dyes:
When hands clasped hands, and lips to lips were pressed
And the heart's secret was at once confessed?

Abraham Coles (1813–1891), The Microcosm and Other Poems: "Man" (1881) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:46, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

→ Who has not seen that feeling born of flame
Crimson the cheek at mention of a name?
The rapturous touch of some divine surprise
Flash deep suffusion of celestial dyes:
When hands clasped hands, and lips to lips were pressed
And the heart's secret was at once confessed?

Edit 1 As per my WP:JDLI comment •martyx• tkctgy 15:35, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

→ "Tell me, how did you find America?" – "Turn left at Greenland."

A Hard Day's Night (194) directed by Richard Lester; written by Alun Owen; starring The Beatles; music composed by The Beatles and George Martin; cinematography by Gilbert Taylor; editing by John Jympson. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:46, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I get it now, but I'm still Opposing in favor of Edit 1. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 18:48, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

→ "Tell me, how did you find America?"
"Turn left at Greenland."

Edit 1 Fixed some issues with the previous motto. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 18:48, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support - This one works. ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 20:02, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support either really, but the linking is slightly better on this one. PrincessofLlyr royal court 18:27, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - I like it. ~NerdyScienceDude (✉ • ✐ • ✍) 00:03, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support I like it but since when has Wikipedia been America? Can it not link to the America article? •martyx• tkctgy 15:12, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Reply - it's that weird question of how to interpret mottoes. You could read: "Tell me, how did you find Wikipedia?"/"(awareness statistics)". PrincessofLlyr royal court 16:23, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak oppose - I don't like the idea of equating Wikipedia with America. Linking to WP:AWARE also isn't particularly useful IMHO. Kayau Voting IS evil 13:17, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: The word "America" derives from the feminized Latin version of the first name of the Italian explorer and navigator Amerigo Vespucci (Amerigo→Americus→America.) America is also a synonym of "New World," "New Continent" (North America + South America = the Americas) "new Land" ... something new. Obviously I know the phrase is referring to the U.S.A., but I took the liberty to "extend" its meaning. This word (America, América, Amerika, Amérique) and meaning are in common use in many languages as well as in English. America here means the new world/thing, which surely is Wikipedia. Also, a link to Google or Yahoo! would make the idea more clear for linking "Turn left at Greenland," but I used WP:AWARE because I don't think it is a good idea to point to the Wikipedia main namespace. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:53, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

→ From every blush that kindles in thy cheeks,
Ten thousand little loves and graces spring
To revel in the roses.

Nicholas Rowe (1674–1718), Tamerlane, Act I, Scene I (1701) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:36, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

→ From every blush that kindles in thy cheeks,
Ten thousand little loves and graces spring,
To revel in the roses.

Edit 1 •martyx• tkctgy 12:12, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support I like this one the best. --I dream of horses (T) @ 05:09, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - little also modifies graces, which means the graces are also little. Also, spring is a verb where little loves and little graces are the subjects. In other words, it doesn't makes sense to link graces and spring to the same page. Kayau Voting IS evil 09:19, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Conditional Support In favor of Original. I like the linking in it better. ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 18:55, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

→ From every blush that kindles in thy cheeks,
Ten thousand little loves and graces spring,
To revel in the roses.

Edit 2 fixed the 'loves and graces' issue. Clearly I need to brush up on my grammar! •martyx• tkctgy 15:48, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reopened ALL per lack of consensus. Smaug123 (talk) 18:24, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

→ Why did she love him? Curious fool! —be still—
Is human love the growth of human will?

George Gordon Noel Byron (1788–1824), Lara, Canto II (1814) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:08, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

recycle Reopened (no consensus; 3 in support and 1 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:53, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak oppose because I don't think the links make sense altogether. Per phrase, but not with the entire motto. PrincessofLlyr royal court 02:43, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Opposeish - links —mono 01:34, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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