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Gift

Aha, you found it :-) William M. Connolley (talk) 14:07, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Although that did remove the implication in those two redlinks that creating a page about untouchable issues is itself an issue deserving of the caper toss treatment. - 2/0 (cont.) 14:14, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Use easter eggs! Hmm, tasty. WP:TENFOOTPOLE -Atmoz (talk) 14:48, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
How is the weather in London, anyway? - 2/0 (cont.) 15:19, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Possum Drop

Sorry, I had though there was a bot that automatically notified people if their article was suggested for Speedy Deletion. Edward321 (talk) 23:18, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Elena Gadel

Hi, I accept your apology but the stub is a clear copyvio of {http://www.nme.com/artists/elena-gadel}. Jezhotwells (talk) 01:26, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have reverted my CSD, I see now that NME has used the Wikipedia article. Jezhotwells (talk) 01:31, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion to eliminate confusion regarding two pages

There are a couple of pages whose names are quite similar, Hyborian Age (which is about the fictional universe created by author Robert E. Howard as the setting for his Conan stories) and The Hyborian Age (the essay originally written by Howard about the setting), and it causes some confusion when trying to figure out which is which even for me (and I visit the former quite frequently), so I want to suggest a solution to alleviate this confusion.

  • What I propose is that the pages be renamed to Hyborian Age (essay) for the page about the essay, and Hyborian Age (fictional universe) for the page about the universe itself. I think this would be the best naming pattern for them because it provides each one a title with clear visual distinction regarding its content during a search.

Please respond to me on my talk page regarding this issue when you have a few minutes. Thank you for your time. Spartan198 (talk) 13:10, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

My edit of Faith healing: reference to Benors' analysis of clinical trials

Hi,

You reverted (on 23:20, 17 September 2010) my edit of the Faith healing article taking out the reference to Benors analysis of trials citing WP:MEDRS. (I had assumed that using an analysis of trials rather than quoting the results of one trial would "average out" a variation in each trials' results.) Would you be able to offer any advice about obtaining a suitable analysis of trials - what websites / search hints?.

Thank you,

Adrian-from-london (talk) 23:06, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Generally speaking, any decent biomedical journal will be indexed by PubMed and searchable here. I believe they have a tutorial explaining the fields and the use of limiters such as database or field or date of publication. Once you find a paper that covers information relevant to the topic about which you want to write, searching by the key words listed for that paper can help you retrieve additional relevant results. Though results are often incomplete (especially when a reference is not well-formed), I also find it helpful to use the 'find papers that cite this paper' function of Google Scholar and some databases. Searching out other papers lets you see the state of the relevant field as a whole so that our articles can reflect that rather than being a mere amalgam of whichever papers editors happen across. Always read the original paper before citing it; abstracts and especially lay summaries may be misleading.
For covering aspects of a topic related to the history or the sociological impact, PubMed is less useful. The same advice regarding searching out additional sources to gain an understanding of the field as a whole continues to apply, though.
On the issue of well-formed citations, you may find these tools I have bookmarked on my user page helpful.
On this particular paper, you are absolutely correct that reviews are, with some caveats, preferred to individual studies. One of those caveats is that pretty much any paper from 1990 is likely to be of only historical interest. As more papers are published, they will be summarized by updated reviews. Quality and historical importance are also concerns, but as a general rule of thumb it is best to consider only the most recent few reviews. Reviews can use different methodologies and examine slightly different questions, though, so it is important not to throw out a good source solely based on the publication of a new review.
It is always worthwhile to consider the source of any paper you consider citing. Complementary Medical Research (now Complementary Therapies in Medicine) was founded by the Research Council for Complementary Medicine, though apparently they have been taken up by Elsevier now; I am not sure off hand who published it in 1990. Reviewing Benor's oeuvre, I would be wary of citing him for anything other than his own opinion; his opinion may be relevant in a few articles, but should always be properly attributed.
This review is a very good source, as it is relatively recent and comprehensive, explains its methodology transparently, and is published by the highly respected Cochrane Collaboration.
Hope this helps, - 2/0 (cont.) 07:11, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Astronomy and Astrophysics Decadal Survey

Shubinator (talk) 18:04, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

Hello, 2over0. You have new messages at Drmies's talk page.
Message added 02:44, 20 September 2010 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.[reply]

Edit warring

Why have you not warned QuackGuru re edit warring. This is biased and a completely unacceptable violation of wikipedia's guidelines re edit warring - he is also involved in the edit war. QuackGuru is reverting without discussion against wikipedia's guidelines. Please see Talk:Chiropractic#Systematic_review_about_safety --Javsav (talk) 04:10, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have replied to your comment there. In case it is not clear, my admin hat is firmly in the corner on this and all other alternative medicine articles. - 2/0 (cont.) 04:17, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please undelete this article? We have received OTRS permission for it which I can add as soon as it is restored. VernoWhitney (talk) 17:00, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Happy to :). The deleted talkpage is associated with the article that was A7ed previously, so I have not restored that. There was anyway no content but for a WikiProject London tag. - 2/0 (cont.) 22:41, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've added the OTRS tag now. Thanks! VernoWhitney (talk) 23:25, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

wp:DTTR

just as a point of information user:The_Transhumanist has four times as many edits as you do, so hitting him with a newbie template is a bit rude. I'm not defending him, mind you, just pointing out the obvious. --Ludwigs2 06:05, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See my edit notice, thank you. - 2/0 (cont.) 06:19, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have no idea what you mean by that - I'm quite aware that this is a user talk page, which is all your edit notice seems to say - but c'est la vie. no real need to explain, because I have no real interest in pursuing the issue further. --Ludwigs2 07:49, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, that was unduly cryptic of me. I am aware of the essay in question, but disagree with its advice. In my edit notice, I state my preference that other editors template me, as the wording of the templates has been carefully crafted. That article has been subject to several moves over the years, and the most recent one was rather protracted. See you on talk if the move discussion continues. Regards, - 2/0 (cont.) 08:08, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Hi, please delete these articles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Public_Service_Commission,_District_1_-_Southern_Election,_2008 And then please delete my first 3 contributions.

And then delete (totally, so it does not show up in history) this post, thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RBLibertarian (talk • contribs) 08:04, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


who made you admin

No matter who reports this user has violated the rules

DO you have any reson why you declined. do you know what is violation of rules ?

if you dont know the rules why dont you leave this issues to any experienced administrator-- LONTECH  Talk  18:42, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Brief note

Hi, thanks for your reasonable judgement in the report filed against me by Lontech. I had been drafting a paragraph during which time you were working on his request; as I submitted it, it was held up in an edit conflict, I then sent it through but then I came to realise that its clash was with your decline of his request. Does my block need to stay? Or shall I remove it? I was only pointing out the thread to his behaviour that you have already noticed. Evlekis (Евлекис) 18:43, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is probably best just to leave it for posterity, but feel free to remove it if you would like. - 2/0 (cont.) 19:05, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well if it is not in anyone elses way then fine! I just wish for it to be known that my first contribution was not a restoration of my own work, so it wasn't a "true" revert; the second was different to the first because I had amended it, so I wasn't reverting the same thing, that was what I was trying to say in that wall of text. Thanks all the same. Evlekis (Евлекис) 19:16, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Just for your own interest, another user User:Sulmues has since made a contribution to the Kosovo article, moving Enric's version down the page; Enric in turn edited mine; I had hitherto softened the original by Cinema C. I feel that these have all been positive contributions and I believe that there is no further reason for any user to "remove" the material or dismiss it as "POV" (NeroN BG having made an intermediate edit). The history is here. I sense no conflict now. Evlekis (Евлекис) 19:38, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I need explanation or i'll report you

what kind of reason is this Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Lontech What has to do this wtih 1RR violation ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lontech (talk • contribs) 18:53, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Evlekis reported by User:Lontech (Result: declined) (permalink).
I reviewed the history and relevant talk surrounding the current flare up at Kosovo, and decided that neither blocking any involved editor nor protecting the article would represent the optimal solution at this juncture. I also considered warning certain parties, but all seem to be aware that the article is both contentious and subject to special sanctions. The link to AE is merely convenience for anyone else who reviews the situation.
If you would like to request a review of this decision, I believe that the best place to do so would be Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. If you initiate a thread there, please notify me. Regards, - 2/0 (cont.) 19:04, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

Hello, 2over0. You have new messages at Terrillja's talk page.
Message added 20:09, 24 September 2010 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.[reply]

Responded there.--Terrillja talk 20:42, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

iPad

Thread copied from User talk:Reisio#iPad

If you have an issue with the use of the wordmark, take it to the talkpage there. It has already been discussed and consensus was to keep as it is now.--Terrillja talk 07:07, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WP:CCC, though I wouldn't personally call it a matter of consensus, unless there is some consensus to abuse infoboxes and in other ways make Wikipedia discontinuous, which I'm fairly certain is not the case. Maybe YouTube should have an embedded video instead of its name atop its infobox? Maybe NASA should have a dancing astronaut GIF on its? …or maybe not. ¦ Reisio (talk) 07:18, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Your edit warring isn't going to change anything. It's a wordmark, not a .gif. Grow up.--Terrillja talk 07:21, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I call it maintaining consistency, a word that comes up a lot at WP:MOS. Why does this page say you're offline if you're not? :p ¦ Reisio (talk) 07:25, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I see you've already been warned about this. Why are you continuing to remove the wordmark without further discussion? -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 06:44, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Warned about what? Terrillja warned me (threatened, really, and then called me a vandal at WP:AIV, only to have the listing dismissed) about violating some irrelevant non-consensus he seems to have taken part in. What are you warning me about? You've yet to say, despite having been explicitly asked to. ¦ Reisio (talk) 07:23, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/edit warring regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.--Terrillja talk 18:31, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Additionally, please do not start a redundant section at that board; it is sufficient to calmly and neutrally present your side in the same section beneath the original report. It is anyway incumbent on the reviewing admin to examine the edits of all involved parties. - 2/0 (cont.) 20:04, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't particularly trust admins to do their jobs (an unfortunate result of a fair amount of experience), but since you ask, should this happen again, I will attempt to once more give the benefit of the doubt, at least initially. ¦ Reisio (talk) 20:11, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Glad to hear it. - 2/0 (cont.) 20:14, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Hi, please delete my account. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RBLibertarian (talk • contribs) 05:58, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind until I post back...

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