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Help! I am an MPA student at WCU and new to Wikipedia, need all the help I can get. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dvpolicy11 (talk • contribs) 19:57, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Responded on your talk page. – GorillaWarfare ^{talk • contribs} 04:04, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Our assignment for this week was to research and list 3 articles we are considering for our main project. I have chosen Epidemiology of Domestic Violence, Murder of Pregnant Women, or Women's Shelter as my 3. Any feedback, comments, or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. ThanksDvpolicy11 (talk) 00:46, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

I think we can work with these! Murder of pregnant women is a good choice because it can definitely use expansion, particularly to include non-US murder of pregnant women (as shown by the template at the top). Women's shelter is another good choice because it could also use expansion. Epidemiology of domestic violence is a bit of a concern in that it's already a pretty well-fleshed-out article. Do you have ideas of what you would add to it? Sometimes really comprehensive articles like that one are difficult to improve. I've gathered that you're interested in the topic of domestic violence -- have you seen Category:Domestic violence? If you decide you do want to change any of your topics, you could probably find some more ideas there. – GorillaWarfare ^{talk • contribs} 02:14, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Hi. I have decided on Murder of Pregnant Women as my Wiki page. I discussed this with my professor last week and we determined it could use some updates in the areas of current research, hard data, discussing the link between domestic violence and the murder of pregnant women, and include info about state policies (since this is a public policy class). Let me know what you think...thanks for your help.Dvpolicy11 (talk) 22:22, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Sounds good! All of those changes sound fine. I look forward to working with you on it. – GorillaWarfare ^{talk • contribs} 00:01, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

I need help determining how to cite and reference in-text. We have to begin a preliminary paragraph next week. Thanks for your help.Dvpolicy11 (talk) 01:22, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Citations

Sure, no problem. First I would like to direct you to two handouts: File:WikipediaReferencing.pdf and File:RefCodeHandout.pdf. These are probably more coherent than this explanation. There is also WP:Citing sources, although that might err on the side of too in-depth... Anyway, citations seem complex but are actually relatively simple. They are generally made up of a citation template enclosed in HTML tags. Then, at the end of the page in the "References" section, they are all displayed. The numbering and linking into the article is all automatic.

So, say I wanted to cite an article like this one from the New York Times regarding Wikipedia. The citation would look like:

<ref>{{cite news|last=Cohen|first=Noam|title=Define Gender Gap? Look Up Wikipedia’s Contributor List|url=http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/31/business/media/31link.html?scp=2&sq=wikipedia&st=cse|accessdate=11 February 2011|newspaper=New York Times|date=30 January 2011}}</ref>

You can see the <ref> and </ref> elements on either side of the citation template. That template looks complicated but it's really not. I highly recommend something called "RefTools". You can turn it on in My preferences > Gadgets. It's under "Editing gadgets". It's explained pretty thoroughly at Wikipedia:RefToolbar 2.0, but it's pretty self explanatory. Once it's enabled, you can click a tab above the editing box that says "Cite". There will be a dropdown box that says "Templates", and you can choose either web, news, book, or journal. It will then give you fields to fill in. It's incredibly simple, and provides nicely formatted citations like the one above.

Another useful thing for citations is the use of named references. This allows you to easily cite a source more than once. Say, for example, I wanted to use that citation above. I could provide a name in the reference tag that would allow me to reuse it:

<ref name=Cohen>{{cite news|last=Cohen|first=Noam|title=Define Gender Gap? Look Up Wikipedia’s Contributor List|url=http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/31/business/media/31link.html?scp=2&sq=wikipedia&st=cse|accessdate=11 February 2011|newspaper=New York Times|date=30 January 2011}}</ref>

Then, anytime I wanted to use that citation again, I would just insert <ref name=Cohen/> (note the slash) instead of the entire reference template.

To display the references at the end of the article, you add the References section (==References==) and then underneath that, either {{reflist}} or </references>.

I hope this helped! Your mentor will probably go over this as well. – GorillaWarfare ^{talk • contribs} 01:51, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Boy in the Oak

Hi GW. I realised you closed this AfD in GF but there have been comments such as a WOW! that it was not deleted. Seems you might not have had much choice (other than perhaps extending), but I don't think we really want totally unref stubs like this. Two options are open: an immediate CSD A7, or a WP:DELREV. Which do you thing would be best and would cause the least fuss? Cheers, --Kudpung (talk) 04:43, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

I see what you mean. I've A7ed it -- it was a poor choice on my part. Cheers! – GorillaWarfare ^{talk • contribs} 13:28, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm going to disagree with this one. It's not eligible for A7 after the keep, and there is no way that discussion was for deletion. Furthermore there are plenty of sources and we don't delete articles for being unsourced stubs (other than BLPs). Thoughts? Hobit (talk) 13:02, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

I was never able to find a policy that clearly forbids it, and even asking around some gurus of policy, I was unable to get a clear answer. It can certainly be undeleted, then offered for AfD again if it isn't smartly referenced to establish notability - we certainly delete articles for lack of notability. The irony is, that had this article simple been PRODed, it would have been gone now, with nary a ripple.--Kudpung (talk) 13:33, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Ah, a few things. First we don't speedy things for a lack of notability, only for not asserting any. I'll agree this stub didn't. However from WP:CSD "If a page has survived a prior deletion discussion, it should not be speedy deleted except for newly discovered copyright violations" pretty clearly applies. And if it were PRODed I could go to WP:REFUND and get it back or one of the keep !voters could have removed the PROD. So at this point I'm going to ask that the deleting admin restore it, either as an improper A7 or (more creatively I guess) a contested PROD. Hobit (talk) 16:35, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

I've restored the page and am going to try to improve it instead of going through a whole other deletion debate. – GorillaWarfare ^{talk • contribs} 17:05, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! Hobit (talk) 23:08, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks from me too, because I have no personal interest in the subject of the article, and everything was done in GF; and to you too Hobit for clearing something up - we've all learned a bit more today. It's odd though that I missed that in WP:CSD, and that none of the admins I asked were able to point me to it.Kudpung (talk) 12:24, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Agreed, I'd not seen it either. Definitely good knowledge to have. – GorillaWarfare ^{talk • contribs} 13:50, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

All thanks should go to GW for fixing the article (quite nicely might I add). That's the whole point of this place. Well done! Hobit (talk) 15:07, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia Ambassador Program Newsletter: 13 February 2011

The newsletter of the Wikipedia Ambassador Program – Volume 1, 28 January 2011 This is the second issue of the Wikipedia Ambassador Program Newsletter, with details about what's going on right now and where help is needed. Userboxes and profiles - Add an ambassador userbox to your page, and make sure you've added your mentor profile! Be a coordinating ambassador - Pick and class and make sure no students fall through the cracks. New screencasts - Short videos on watchlists and a number of other topics may be useful to students. Updates from Campus Ambassadors - Ambassadors are starting to report on classroom experiences, both on-wiki and on the Google Group. Other news - There's a new on-wiki application for being an Online Ambassador, and Editing Friday #2 is today! Things you can do - This is just a sample; if you're eager for something to do, there's plenty more.

Delivered by EdwardsBot (talk) 18:22, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

11:15 AM (EDST)

Ok now. I encountered BoomBoomAK-47, who created a page, previously deleted by you, I think, as an attack page. This user also created another page that was vandalism. I, honestly, think this user needs to be blocked. Slayer2448 (talk) 16:18, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

This user has already been blocked by another admin for a different reason entirely: sockpuppetry. However you seem to be a bit unfamiliar with the general vandalism procedures, so I'll just tell you about that briefly. We have warning templates which you can see being used on that user's talk page already. Usually for first-time vandalism, we use a level-1 template. This is the "nicest" warning, and generally assumes good faith. If the user re-vandalizes, he or she receives a level-2 template, and so on up until level 4. If a user vandalizes after this warning, you can report the user at the administrator intervention against vandalism noticeboard. This is much faster than telling a single administrator, as it's often unlikely that that administrator would be online at that point. If a user is reported before being adequately warned, the report is usually declined for that reason. There are cases in which a user doesn't need to have that many warnings before being blocked (for example, sockpuppets). This is explained pretty thoroughly at WP:BLOCK. Furthermore, if a user vandalizes in a particularly excessive way, the lower-level templates can be skipped. This is explained well at WP:WARN. I hope this helps you out. The long and short of it is: you don't need to post on a random administrator's page any time you find vandalism. Simply revert the vandalism, warn the user, and move on. If the user has been adequately warned and is still vandalizing, report him/her at AIV. – GorillaWarfare ^{talk • contribs} 23:26, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

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Thanks for deleting the redirect

Thank you for deleting the redirect. – Allen4names 01:00, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Sure, no problem. – GorillaWarfare ^{talk • contribs} 01:08, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Mac Beer

You have uploaded of photo of Mac beer into the McCashin's Brewery Wikipedia page. Could you please remove this. Macs Beer is made by Lion Nathan and is nothing to do with McCashin's Brewery (since their lease finished in 2009). feel free to post a pic of Stoke beer, the Beer actually made at Mccashin's Brewery. Emma —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.155.127.214 (talk) 18:34, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I see now. Thanks for letting me know -- I've removed it. You should know that you are welcome to remove something like this yourself if you see an error. – GorillaWarfare ^{talk • contribs} 18:40, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Integrative medicine

The whole Integrative medicine article was closely paraphrased from the linked source. Check under each section header to see how the wording and sources line up. It has been edited a fair bit in the last week, though, so it may be that it no longer qualifies as CSD as the original version did. Thanks for looking. - 2/0 (cont.) 05:48, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Agreed, but it didn't seem unambiguous to me. – GorillaWarfare ^{talk • contribs} 05:50, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

I can respect that; that is why we get two sets of eyes on these, at least one of which is uninvolved. - 2/0 (cont.) 05:59, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

That article does need some serious work, though. I'd almost be tempted to suggest an AfD, but it looks like some of it is salvageable. – GorillaWarfare ^{talk • contribs} 06:09, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

I proposed the merger before I found the source page while trying to find citations for some of the unsourced bits. A bunch of it is out of date so far as WP:MEDRS is concerned, but enough people are watching that the content can probably be brought to heel wherever it ends up. - 2/0 (cont.) 06:18, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Sounds good. Thank you for all your work! – GorillaWarfare ^{talk • contribs} 15:51, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

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STATic message me! 20:58, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mekael Shane

I punched this "delete" but I'm curious as to why you relisted it. Did you see something the nom and the 2 !voters missed? --Ron Ritzman (talk) 02:04, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

I relisted just because there were very few people weighing in and because of the reference one of them brought up. Really just erring on the side of caution. I think by now a delete is completely fine. – GorillaWarfare ^{talk • contribs} 02:06, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

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FYI. By the way, the user seems to also have been doing a lot of forum shopping. Kudpung (talk) 09:53, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know! That user doesn't seem to quite understand the idea of a {{helpme}} template... I see what you mean about the forum shopping too, but hopefully your quite thorough response will put an end to that. – GorillaWarfare ^{talk • contribs} 17:26, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

RfA tranclusion

Hi. Judging by their Talk page discussion, it doesn't seem entirely clear to me that User:Slayer2448 definitely wants that RfA trancluded right now - are you sure they do? -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 17:40, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

It seems clear to me -- he seems unclear as to why he's not succeeding at RfA, and "I'm wondering if I will have trouble succeeding because other users have thought me to vandalize Wikipedia." seems to indicate he's still interested. You see it otherwise? – GorillaWarfare ^{talk • contribs} 17:43, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

I read it as thinking about it, but not quite sure yet. Better undo. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 17:44, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Alrighty, I've undone. I'll leave a note on his talk. – GorillaWarfare ^{talk • contribs} 17:46, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Cool. I think your interpretation probably was right, but just think it's better to be be absolutely certain. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 17:51, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

No problem, completely understood. :] – GorillaWarfare ^{talk • contribs} 18:15, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Mentoring students: be sure to check in on them

This message is going out to all of the Online Ambassadors who are, or will be, serving as mentors this term.

Hi there! This is just a friendly reminder to check in on what your mentees are doing. If they've started making edits, take a look and help them out or do some example fixes for them, if they need it. And if they are doing good, let them know it!

If you aren't mentoring anyone yet, it looks like you will be soon; at least one large class is asking us to assign mentors for them, and students in a number of others haven't yet gotten to asking ambassadors to be their mentors, but may soon. --Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 20:06, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Y Done – GorillaWarfare ^{talk • contribs} 21:12, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

RevDel

Remember that when a page is created, and you need to RevDel that first version, it is important to make sure to delete the edit summary as well, as the automatic edit summary for a page creation is the first 200 or so characters of the page. Courcelles 12:50, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for taking care of that for me -- I completely forgot. – GorillaWarfare ^{talk • contribs} 16:42, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

RefTools screencast

Really nice job! Thanks! --Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 13:24, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! – GorillaWarfare ^{talk • contribs} 16:42, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Barnstar

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		Here is that barnstar I promised you (: I'm Flightx52 and I approve this message 23:51, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! – GorillaWarfare ^{talk • contribs} 23:54, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Editing Fridays article for 24 February 2011

--Guerillero | My Talk 00:26, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you!

Dear GorillaWarfare,

I wanted to stop by and say hello and thank you for all of your time and help. It all had become just one massive frustrating situation - but I'm so grateful for people like you that got involved - your patience and time that you all put into helping - I am incredibly touched by that.

Best Wishes, Comedybiographer (talk) 07:21, 25 February 2011 (UTC)