Talk:Alizée

Internet Meme

She obviously became very popular thanks to youtube and reached a huge audience had never heard of her before. You have the Warcraft dance, animated gifs, ASCII art, more than 13000000 views for a single video etc. And it matches right about the time she revived her singing career. Coincidence? Well, I think her enormous internet and internet-based popularity somewhat deserve a mention. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.19.137.234 (talk) 14:48, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Dance in World of Warcraft

Why is this important? This has more to do with the female night elves dance than with alizee.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.7.76.38 (talk) 18:27, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Sorry guys, J'en Ai Marre is the inspiration for the female Night Elves' dance. http://www.wowwiki.com/Dancing --Super Bhaal 02:05, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

The citation's at the bottom. It's number eleven, but the part that was supposed to have linked to it doesn't. I'm not touching any of that. If someone more experienced with that kind of thing wants to, they can go right ahead. --Super Bhaal 03:35, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I missed this. My mistake. (On a side note, what is up with this talk page....the formatting is....confusing. I'll provide instructions on your own talk page on how to provide the reference.

Okay, I fixed it. Not sure how reliable the source is, but at this point, I am going to quietly exist this article. TableManners 03:59, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Depends on the contributor. The guy in question only made three edits and they were all to the dance page. I checked the video and WoW Model Viewer and the moves are similar enough, so I guess it's right. --Super Bhaal 05:14, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

It was listed twice, I removed the second occurrence. Anyways, there has been a lot of discussion over this (see archives). While the reference is kept, it is far from being a reliable source (plus the information is unencyclopedically trivial, but thats a different matter altogether). Any source with half an air of official authority should be preferred. --soum ^talk 08:17, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Signed. I guess I could ask around at the official forums, but I doubt I'd get a reply that matters. --Super Bhaal 11:35, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't know what idiot removed it from the article, but surely any fan would find it entertaining that they were enspired by Alizées dancing. And they clearly were, whilst I have yet to hear a designer actually say that - anyone who isn't halfblind and has tried world of warcraft(there is a free trial people!) can compare that dance to this clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FclTTChYwk - and in case people don't know the wackos who make the game, it is so full of in jokes and pop culture references, from engineers making Firefly jokes, to Starwars, Anime - and in case anyone doubts they'd do that, on the 'making of DVD' for the expansion "The Burning Crusade" they mention how Britney Spears videos were the basis for the dance of the Blood Elf Females (slightly different race). It should be mentioned, its clearly 100% certain - even if we haven't had it mentioned in an interview yet. Someone should ask at Blizzcon! IceHunter (talk) 00:48, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Free image of Alizée

Since I last tried getting a free picture of Alizée, non-free images were twice placed and twice removed. Though it's an odd time to do so (with a whole bunch of press pictures coming soon), I'm going to go back on a lead I had, someone who took pictures at a concert. Could I be pointed in the direction of that contract template for people to licence their images freely? Eli ^espire 23:14, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Example requests for permission. Hope that helps, JACOPLANE • 2007-09-12 23:25

Image under Mes Courants Électriques sub

The image under this sub is not labelled correctly. The box says the image is from J'ai Pas Vingt Ans, while the image filename is InIAmFedUp, and the image description in the image page says it is from Moi... Lolita. Something needs to be fixed here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.100.160.175 (talk) 23:18, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

The image description page error was a copy paste error. Sorry about that. Its fixed now. As for the image title, it was uploaded on top of an older image (which was from I'm Fed Up). This is a remnant of that. Ignore it. Go by the description in both the article and image pages. --soum ^talk 05:33, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Merge content from Talk:Alizée Search

I have created this discussion page, since there has recently been some discussion about the article.

Below you can find my response to the "{{dated prod}}" notice of Schaefer:

I understand that you are concerned whether the Alizée Search article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion. You gave the following three reasons in your edit summary:

• Subject is a non-notable fan website.

The website is a specialized search engine, which is not a typical fan website. The innovation that the website represents is that "it was the first internet search engine to include favicons in its Web search results in 2006". This is an essential part of the article which sets Alizée Search apart from all other internet search engines. Without this fact I would not have started the article in the first place. This information should not be lost.

• No references in reliable third-party sources.

There are not much reliable third-party sources in other articles about internet search engines, for examples see the List of search engines. This is probably caused by the fact that search engine algorithms are usually corporate property. This is no reason to deleted those other articles either.

• Not even really a search engine, as you can only "search" for one term.

This would indeed be a good point, if it was not emphasized in the article itself. However, it is clearly mentioned in the text that "it is a specialized search engine based on a focused crawler for only the single keyword "Alizée Jacotey"".

Furthermore, I would like to add that the Alizée Search site is non-commercial and ad-free. I shall continue to contribute to improve the article on the raised issues and encourage others to do so too. Thanks. Ekna 16:08, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

The fact that it is the first search engine to incorporate favicons into its results is not verifiable by the reader. On whose authority are we to take this as true? I don't understand your objection that there can't be third-party sources because "search engine algorithms are usually corporate property". This would do nothing to prevent third-party sources from writing about the search engine. There are lots of articles (books, even) about Google though its search algorithm is corporate property. Also, the fact that other articles for search engines do not meet requirements for notability is no excuse for this one doing the same (see WP:WAX and WP:INN for details). The non-commercial nature of the website is not important. The issue is whether there exist independent, reliable, published sources that have written about Alizée Search that can be used to verify the information in this article. If there are not, the reader has no reason to believe any of its content, because it relies completely on the claims of the website in question. -- Schaefer (talk) 17:06, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Merge of the Alizee Search article

I do not think a biography is the place to promote others' works, even though the work might be about the subject herself. What information about the biography does the trivia provide? The info, IMO, does not belong here. --soum ^talk 15:01, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Psychédélices album art

Has the album art that is being used for Psychédélices been confirmed? Why is it being used here as if it were the confirmed album art? As far as i know, this was released by someone on a fan forum, but nothing has been confirmed. I don't think it belongs on Alizée page as well as Psychédélices page until we know it's the actual album art. Or perhaps one can put "unconfirmed album cover" instead of just declaring it the album cover. (Supermin99 17:46, 21 October 2007 (UTC))

You are right, we should not use it without official confirmation. --soum ^talk 17:55, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Psychédélices

The section, in its older self was nothing more than a timeline of disconnected info, without any flow or structure. It would have become unmaintainable in the long run. Plus, lot of the info concerned her hiatus which is also encyclopedically irrelevant now that the album has released. For this it was replaced with a different version, which brought it in line with other sections focussing on the album rather than the journey to it. It is better maintainable. If you see there is any problem with this, please feel free to point that out. --soum ^talk 18:05, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

I took the liberty of cleaning it up a bit. Looks good. Lemon-lime (talk) 22:38, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Good work. --soum ^talk 03:28, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Any sales information? Mahanga^Talk 03:07, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

See Psychédélices. --soum ^talk 03:11, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Corrections for Tout Alizée

I've noticed a number of problems regarding Tour Alizée in all of its occurrences. First is that the album's name is "Tout Alizée," not just "Tout." Secondly, the writer made Universal look like a greedy blood-sucking company. While it is, we don't officially say that, so I'm going to take that off. There are other miscellaneous things that I'm going to correct. I just thought I'd let you guys (I guess mainly Soum and Jaco) know that it was me. [a later edit of this comment] I did some research, making sure that the name includes "Alizée." The charts site calls it Tout, the Mixup store calls it Tout Alizée, and Universal Mexico calls it Parler Tout Bas. I'm still going to change it, because (1) there is no clear distinction between artist and title on the cover, and if there was, the order of the words would be switched, (2) charts and other publications will often remove an artist's name from the album name to save space, just as was done with En Concert, and (3) for self-research, as Tout sounds silly and the album's been called Tout Alizée on the forums. Eli ^espire 21:07, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Somebody change her photo, please

It's really terrific. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.52.16.91 (talk) 20:15, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't really see what is so awful on it... But It was of course just a suggestion. If there is some real quality problem with the photos, then let me know, since I'm on travel and I can only use my laptop's bad TFT screen to verify the photos. New versions can be easily uploaded if problems are found. Either way, I have donated some more new photos for the free use on wiki : Alizée sur Wikipedia Commons -- RMJJRM (talk) 09:20, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Alizee's hair style

It has been diocovered that Alizee's hair style is one of the hair style like the ones the beatle used to do. and i love it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.120.150.142 (talk) 16:32, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

GA Reassessment

This discussion is transcluded from Talk:Alizée/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the reassessment.

GA Sweeps: On hold

As part of the WikiProject Good Articles, we're doing Sweeps to determine if the article should remain a Good article. I believe the article currently meets the majority of the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. However, in reviewing the article, I have found there are several issues that needs to be addressed.

Needs sources:

1. "The aircraft was subsequently named after her, and Alizée won a trip to the Maldives for her efforts."
2. "She went on to win the "Meilleure Graine" award for most promising young singing star of tomorrow." Also it would be best to put quotation marks around the name of the award.
3. "In 2000, they produced her maiden album, Gourmandises which was a great success in France, Germany, Mexico, England and the rest of the United Kingdom."
4. "She is a supporter of AC Ajaccio (Corsica), and was once invited to kick off one of their matches."
5. "They were married on November 6, 2003..." This has been tagged since March 2008.
6. "The album reached top five in charts in France, Germany, Mexico, Asian countries and others."
7. "Alizée has sold nearly five million albums & singles around the globe." Also remove the ampersand.
8. "In addition, she is also very popular in parts of Asia including Russia, India, China and Japan."
9. "It sold 200,000 copies in France."

Other issues:

1. "She has since released three studio albums - first two of which were..." If emdashes are going to be used, then this one should also be an emdash. Fix the other occurrences in the article.
2. "The couple had their first child on April 28, 2005—a girl they named Annily. She currently resides in Paris, France." Does the entire family or just Annily reside in Paris? Specify to prevent any confusion.
3. "It went on to become a hit both in Europe and outside." Reword "outside" to be more specific.
4. "More recently, she has been becoming just as popular in North America as she is in much of Europe; the latest concert tours together with earlier promotion leading to a very strong fan base in mainly The United States of America and in Mexico." This sentence should be reworded.
5. The album covers should be removed from the article. They look like they are being used for decorative purposes. Unless specific text in the article comments on the album cover, then they should be removed. Readers can always visit the articles on the albums to see the covers.
6. "The video was shot in a studio in Brussels—which had a 25 metre by 10 metre painted canvas to serve as the background—with real bubbles." Measurements should include conversions. Fix all other occurrences.
7. Songs should not be italicized. Place them in quotation marks instead.
8. "En concert has a Gold certification for shipments over 50,000 copies only in Mexico. [20]" "En Concert" should be italicized and the inline citation should directly follow the punctuation.
9. "After a four year hiatus..." "four-year"
10. "For the purposes of promotion of the single and the music videos, a website (www.psychedeclips.com) and a MySpace page (www.myspace.com/psychedeclips) were created.[34]." The external links should not be present within the article. Move them to the external links section if they are relevant.
11. "In March 2008 Alizée visited México for the first time in a short promotional tour, on March 5 she was supposed to hold her second ever public autograph session of her career but it was cancelled due to problems with the store's security, Alizée held an improvised press conference to apologise with Mexico and all her fans as well as stating it was not her fault." This should be split into two sentences.
12. "Sony BMG México also released an statement saying it was not Alizée's fault, and it was the store who had problems with the security and they didn't expect..." Contractions should not be used in the article unless it is part of a quote. Fix all other occurrences.
13. "Alizée also promised to mend this by having another autograph session by the time she visits the country later this year." Specify which year.
14. The references mostly only include the title and access date. These need to be expanded to include author, date, publisher, etc. The citation templates at WP:CITET can help with formatting the parameters.
15. The article has multiple dead links that need to be fixed. The Internet Archive can help.

This article covers the topic well. I will leave the article on hold for seven days, but if progress is being made and an extension is needed, one may be given. If no progress is made, the article may be delisted, which can then later be renominated at WP:GAN. I'll contact all of the main contributors and related WikiProjects so the workload can be shared. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 01:01, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

GA Sweeps: Delisted

The article has been on hold for a week and no improvements were made. As a result I have delisted the article as it still has a way to go before meeting the GA criteria. Continue to improve the article, addressing the issues above. Once they are addressed, please renominate the article at WP:GAN. I look forward to seeing the further improvement of the article, and don't hesitate to contact me if you need assistance with any of these. If you disagree with this review, a community consensus can be reached at WP:GAR. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 21:00, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Corsican NOT French

She is Corsican not French just like Napoleon, stop putting French people|French when she is Corsican. --GeordieWikiEditor (talk) 12:19, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Corsica is a region of France. What Corsica is to France is no different than what California is to the United States. What’s next, are you going to say that Kate Hudson is not American, but rather she’s Californian? Or how about Al Pacino? He is not American. Heck, he's a New Yorker. I can go international. Hugh Jackman is not Australian. He’s a New South Welshman. Baseball great Ichiro Suzuki. He’s not Japanese. He’s Aichian. The rock band U2. They’re not Irish. They’re bloody Dubliners. Celine Dion? She’s not Canadian. She’s a Quebecker. Get your facts straight, people. I can go on and on, but I made my point.

What makes Alizée any different from all the people and groups who I just mention above to the point that she cannot be classified by her country of orgin, but rather her region of origin, a region which I’m pretty certain a vast majority of English readers will not know anything about.

Bottom line, on the English Wikipedia page, where it’s read my mostly Americans and Englishmen, Alizée is a “French” singer, and that’s how she’ll remain classified as on here. Fourviz (talk) 13:50, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Corsica is not part of the mainland France therefore she is not French, all the rest of the ones you made are still part of that country, Corsica is not part of France. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeordieWikiEditor (talk • contribs) 16:45, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

The same rules apply. If you want to play it that way, then explain Hawaii. It's not part of mainland United States, yet it is still part of the United States. People from there are still called Americans, as well as Hawaiians. The President of the United States was born there. Let see how your argument on him plays out.

"Hey!!! Barack Obama is not American. He's Hawaiian. He shouldn't have run for President in the first place. Are you people insane? Now the United States is run by a foreigner."

Give it up, buddy. Your agrument on Alizée and Corsica isn't strong enough to hold. Fourviz (talk) 21:57, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

So Corsicans are considered French? --GeordieWikiEditor (talk) 02:52, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Corsica is region, one of 26 that make up the country of France. It doesn’t matter if it is part of its country’s mainland or not. Look at Hawaii and Alaska. If you were to say "Hawaii and Alaska are not part of the United States," you would make yourself sound like (for lack of a better word) an idiot. Just like you are doing right now when you say that "Corsica is not part of France." When you describe a person’s nationality on Wikipedia, it is by their country of origin. All the things you have said about Alizée and Corsica are wrong. Corsica is NOT a country. It is a region of France. Therefore, Corsica IS a part of France. And to answer your question...Corsicans ARE considered French. Alizée IS a “French” singer. PERIOD! Give it a rest! Fourviz (talk) 14:15, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Corsica might be a region of France but the people on Corsica are Corsicans not French. Nap--GeordieWikiEditor (talk) 23:53, 31 March 2011 (UTC)oleon was not French he was Corsican. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeordieWikiEditor (talk • contribs) 23:47, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

http://www.corsica-isula.com/faq.htm

What’s next? You’re going to say that people from either Hawaii or Alaska are Hawaiians or Alaskans, and not Americans? Let me ask you this question. ARE YOU from Corsica? Judging by your edit logs and inputs you have wrote so far, you seem to get so offended whenever somebody link Corsicans to French. Do you have something against the French? Are you pissed off that France controls Corsica? Whatever it is, you need to put all biased personal feelings and pride aside that you have of this matter. This website is at public encyclopedia, not an open forum blog or chat room where anybody can just put whatever they feel like putting on here. And this web link you have provided, all it does is support all the statements that I have said about France and Corsica, while at the same time derailing all of your statements. People from Hawaii are Hawaiians as well as Americans. People from Alaska are Alaskans as well as Americans. People from Prince Edward Island are called Prince Edward Islanders as well as Canadians. People from Sardinia are called Sardians as well as Italians. And people from Corsica are called Corsicans AS WELL AS French. You should give it up right now. All that you’re doing right now on here is digging a deeper and deeper hole for yourself to the point where you will not be able to get out of. Fourviz (talk) 13:23, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Seems to me that you have little chip on your shoulder about when someone is questioning whether Corsicans are French or not, Corsica is part of France but before Napoleon's birth Corsica was part of Italy and also one stage Corsica was an independent republic so therefore the people from Corsica are Corsican not French, do a few google searches you will see lots of people state "Napoleon was not French he was Corsican"--92.238.166.81 (talk) 19:56, 1 April 2011 (UTC)