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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Benjamin Gatti (talk | contribs) at 18:38, 12 April 2011 (→‎Debate section improvements - baseline: new section). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Merge proposal

I propose to merge New renewable energy into this article. Right now, New renewable energy is a short unsourced article, which just explains a difference between "old" and "new" renewable energy. This explanation suits perfectly here, but it is not enough to deserve its own article. Beagel (talk) 18:11, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Now redirected. Johnfos (talk) 02:49, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Scope of this article

One of the main sections of this article is "Mainstream forms of renewable energy", which presents a brief overview of each of the major renewable energy technologies. The section has a "More sources" tag on it so please don't even think of adding unsourced material here, and expect that anything that is presently unsourced there will eventually be challenged and removed.

Later we have the section entitled "New and emerging renewable energy technologies" which provides a brief overview of some of the newer renewable technologies, such as second generation biofuels.

Any material pertaining to the pros and cons of renewables should go in Renewable energy debate. Per WP:Summary style we just retain a summary of the debate article here.

If you are still not sure where to put any new material you have, please look in Lists about renewable energy and add it to one of the articles there. We cannot possibly put everything about renewable energy in this one article.

Past experience shows that all of this helps to keep the article readable, manageable, and of reasonable quality. Thank you. Johnfos (talk) 05:16, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A debate is about people talking and weighing up the pros and cons, it's not about moving facts on the main topic of the article out into a separate article. The article really has to cover the whole topic.Rememberway (talk) 16:19, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I also note that you removed material in your edit that was not related to the subject line. Do not do that again.Rememberway (talk) 16:19, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I see you've been reverted by Mariordo. I'm not surprised. You don't seem to understand WP:RS and have tried to restore unsourced material where it does not belong. And you don't seem to understand WP:Summary style. Johnfos (talk) 21:39, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Renewability of Geothermal Energy

I don't think geothermal energy should be classified as renewable. Despite the fact that the source is vast, hypothetically if it were depleted how would it renew itself? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.21.161.107 (talk) 15:52, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You mentioned cellulosic ethanol but not Methyl Alcohol [Methanol], Butyl Alcohol {Butanol],

You mentioned cellulosic ethanol but not Methyl Alcohol [Methanol], Butyl Alcohol [Butanol], which can all be created from plants therefore are renewable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rrrrprrrr (talk • contribs) 21:12, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Debate section improvements - baseline

Renewable electricity production, from sources such as wind power and solar power, is sometimes criticized for being variable or intermittent. However, the International Energy Agency has stated that deployment of renewable technologies usually increases the diversity of electricity sources and, through local generation, contributes to the flexibility of the system and its resistance to central shocks.[1]

There have been "not in my back yard" (NIMBY) concerns relating to the visual and other impacts of some wind farms, with local residents sometimes fighting or blocking construction.[2] In the USA, the Massachusetts Cape Wind project was delayed for years partly because of aesthetic concerns. However, residents in other areas have been more positive and there are many examples of community wind farm developments. According to a town councilor, the overwhelming majority of locals believe that the Ardrossan Wind Farm in Scotland has enhanced the area.[3]

The market for renewable energy technologies has continued to grow. Climate change concerns, coupled with high oil prices, peak oil, and increasing government support, are driving increasing renewable energy legislation, incentives and commercialization.[4] New government spending, regulation and policies helped the industry weather the 2009 economic crisis better than many other sectors.[5]

(This is the current state Benjamin Gatti (talk) 18:38, 12 April 2011 (UTC))[reply]

  1. ^ International Energy Agency (2007). Contribution of Renewables to Energy Security IEA Information Paper, p. 5.
  2. ^ http://www.livescience.com/environment/080114-wind-energy.html
  3. ^ Wind farms are not only beautiful, they're absolutely necessary
  4. ^ United Nations Environment Programme Global Trends in Sustainable Energy Investment 2007: Analysis of Trends and Issues in the Financing of Renewable Energy and Energy Efficiency in OECD and Developing Countries (PDF), p. 3.
  5. ^ Clean Edge (2009). Clean Energy Trends 2009 pp. 1-4.
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