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Talk page archives and miscellaneous

Exchanges specific to my Engvar script are also archived at
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Here you go

User:Ohconfucius/Amina Mariam Bokhary. Looking at it again, I think the main thing should be moving from tabloid to analytical sourcing. If such sources exist, I have no idea about that. Guy (Help!) 09:15, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Irena Jarocka / Antonio Berardi

Thanks for doing the clean-ups - aren't you signing up for the May Drive? Acabashi (talk) 05:59, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Francoise Hardy

For some reason your script replaced Corsica with $2. Thought you would like to know. JMcC (talk) 22:39, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Alice Ward

Hi. I appreciate your advice. I didn't realize that I had come off as hostile, but like everybody I can lose my cool. I don't think I have anything to add to the Ward page, so I don't plan on editing there, although you never know what might come up. I'll just wait and see how the closing admin rules. Yours, Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 03:02, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe. I guess getting the keyboard for me is like what getting behind the wheel of a car for others, you're in a different mode (or is it modality?). Thanks again for the advice. I do try not to bite the newbies, really I do. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 18:33, 4 May 2011 (UTC).[reply]

Anglophone

An English-speaking person (Occasional lapses grate a little to anglophones) ; or relating to a place where English is spoken. (Switzerland is not an anglophone country). - OED.

This, of course, includes Desmond Tutu and S. I. Hayakawa. If you knew no better, an apology will be welcome. If you did know better, this was a spurious claim of personal attack. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 04:45, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mr Anderson, I independently saw your comment and recoiled at an apparent racist tinge. An apology is in order now that it has been pointed out, even if good faith is assumed and you had no racist intention. Tony (talk) 04:48, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.
Please be more specific when you believe that abusive conduct has happened. You appear to have not clarified to PMAnderson the nature of the perceived racism until you went to ANI. You need to be specific about what the problem was so that others can review and the accused party can properly defend themselves. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 18:25, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No worries

I came across the page while wandering around - I very often don't read userpages, but your essay is compelling, and describes a serious issue, that I knew very little about. The misprint caught my eye, because I had to reread the context a couple of times, trying to fit in the "which" (what I thought it was). Trust me, the page is far from being a "mess" - if I had to describe an issue that annoying (as I sometimes do), I would often come up with the strangest verbiage. It's rare to see someone who is both angered and eloquent on wikipedia, and your essay is, as I said, compelling. Regards, Dahn (talk) 12:30, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

G12 taggings

Please be aware, if you are not already, that articles should not be tagged for G12 if there are non-infringing versions in the history - "Only if the history is unsalvageably corrupted should it be deleted in its entirety; earlier versions without infringement should be retained." (from the G12 criteria). As such I have removed the tag from Nayah. The page creator had already reverted to a non-infringing version. Dpmuk (talk) 13:11, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Laura Bryna

I have to question just how thoroughly you searched for sources on Laura Bryna. I re-created the article with several sources from reliable publications such as Country Standard Time and Country Weekly. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 19:59, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

re Violette (singer)

No you make a good point. She's marginally notable at best, I don't have any other info on her, and AfD'ing would be appropriate. I had had hopes for her making a bigger splash (not that that is a very good reason for creating an article, sorry).

By the way, I notice that you took the time to actually write a handwritten note to me instead pasting a template or not communicating at all. <sarcasm>Isn't there some rule against that?</sarcasm>. Seriously, thank you for taking the time to write me a note, it is appreciated here. Herostratus (talk) 01:25, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Amina Bokhary

The current shape of this article-to-be looks good. If you don't mind I'll move the article to mainspace later today and possibly submit a DYK on it. --Deryck C. 03:30, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

FLG vs VOA

I noticed you have removed the ntdtv.com reference, however, I managed to locate the VOA reference, hope that it is OK now. Arilang talk 14:09, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • It was an item on television news in HK, so I guess it's OK. VOA is almost as partisan as NTDTV, but I just didn't want any Falun Gong 'pollution' of the article. I'm prepared to let this run despite believing it is not notable in the WP sense – it just seems like WP:NOTNEWS to me. Don't be surprised to see it taken to AfD. If nothing further comes of it, we should not rule out merging it into Ai Weiwei --Ohconfucius ¡digame! 14:14, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Osama bin Laden's compound in Abbottabad DMY dates to MDY ?

Dear Ohconfucius,

I saw you changed all the dates of the article from day-month-year to month-day-year. Could you point out to me which part of MOSNUM supports this edit?

From what I read on MOSNUM:

  • If an article has evolved using predominantly one format, the whole article should conform to it, unless there are reasons for changing it based on strong national ties to the topic.
  • The date format chosen by the first major contributor in the early stages of an article should continue to be used, unless there is reason to change it based on strong national ties to the topic. Where an article has shown no clear sign of which format is used, the first person to insert a date is equivalent to "the first major contributor".

If this article may be considered strongly related to any nation, it would be of Pakistan, surely not the US or Canada (which are the only two countries in the world using this date format).

I strongly encourage you to take the time to undo your edit, which has to be done manually. In fact, I tried to revert it but several edits happened since your. As you said it used a script, I'm positive you can modify that script to change the dates back to the original format.

Thank you in advance for your understanding and cooperation.

Xionbox₪ 20:50, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've made the edit for you, but reverted myself because I take no position on which format should be used. I just wanted to make it easier for you to get your edit if you want it. All you have to do is revert my second edit. -Rrius (talk) 22:18, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you to the both you for settling this very quickly. Fatigue must have set in, talk to me about it! It happens to me all the time, so I fully understand!
Sincerely,
Xionbox₪ 06:54, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Amina Bokhary controversy

Hi, just wondering what you think about adding a BLP connected template to the talkpage as the content is all about living people, thought? Off2riorob (talk) 10:58, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I will add something, really I just want a - take care bla bla living people template but I am unsur ehow to split them I wiill ask at the help desk and I so that would automatically noindex the talkpage also because some controversial stuff may get posted there. No worries I will see what to do I just wanted to make sure you didn't object. Thanks for the thanks but you are the one that did all the work to make the content compliant with policy - well done, regards. Off2riorob (talk) 11:56, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK: Amina Bokhary controversy

Question for an article you wrote at DYK, Amina Bokhary controversy, waiting for you there. Cheers Khazar (talk) 15:53, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers -- Khazar (talk) 17:19, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delinking World War II

Hi Ohcon, can you not delink this? I personally know people who do not know the difference between the World Wars or when WWII was (I had one person guess it started in 1900...), and I can't imagine that kind of non-knowledge is limited to those couple of my friends. :-) Thanks, Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 19:18, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bug in User:Ohconfucius/MOSNUM dates.js

Hi! I have undone a scripted edit to Paul Simonon because it introduced a "cite error". The article uses "ref" and "reference" in such a strange way that the script got confused. You might like to have a look at it. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:18, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Please have a look Maoist China rhetoric and give some advice. Arilang talk 08:02, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

After comparing Cultural Revolution and 文化大革命, my feeling is that it will take many more editors many years to build up the English CR. Maoist China rhetoric is just one small step towards this goal, after all, to understand CR, one needs to understand the Maoist terminology. Arilang talk 11:38, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The King's School, Macclesfield

I see you changed "Notable Alumni" to "Alumni" here. I've noted that with school articles both terms seem to be common, some even use "Famous" (King Edward VI Grammar School, Louth), which is definitely over-egging it, unless there are some within an alumni list who are of major historic significance and need a separate "Famous" listing. I've usually thought that adding the Notable bit deters frivolous non-notable alumnus additions - anybody studying is part of the "Alumni". Schools guidelines do seem to support listing under "Notable". Acabashi (talk) 13:06, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Admittedly I'm not familiar with school guidelines. One of the fundamental precepts of inclusion in WP is that the information must be notable. In that vein, I had always assumed that any alumnus listed is by definition notable, and use of 'notable' in the heading is redundant. --Ohconfucius ¡digame! 13:25, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You are of course right. It does seem that "Notable Alumni" is, through common usage, the more prevalent and accepted, and is not particularly contentious. Either works I suppose, but I like the Notable as it could deter gratuitous edits by some who don't understand Wikipedia precepts and who might believe, therefore, that anybody can be added under "Alumni", particularly kids who include themselves or their mates - always a bit of a headache during school holidays. Not a big issue. Acabashi (talk) 15:01, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • What you said is true: we already see instances of kids adding their names or those of their mates to lists, I'm not sure putting 'notable' in the heading is going to have any deterrent effect, but I guess it's better to remove the temptation. I need to resist the temptation to remove 'notable', because – as I said before – it seems so obvious. --Ohconfucius ¡digame! 15:15, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

L2 in Novi Ligure murder

Hello, Ohconfucius! Thank you for checking and approving my copy edit. I saw you added "needed L2" to the article Novi Ligure murder. Of course I am sure there is a lot of learning I need, but some tips could be useful; so please could you explain what is the main problem? Best wishes. --Broletto (talk) 15:37, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • I'm sorry for my abbreviation. The text you ended up with was one amorphous chunk without headings. What I did in that edit was to create a new section for the details. As you will see from the diff, I separated it from the Lede by adding a level 2 heading ('==The incident=='). --Ohconfucius ¡digame! 16:10, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind the abbreviation! I saw the change but I thought there could be more errors, so thank you for explaining.--Broletto (talk) 08:24, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Date Formats

You changed the date formats on the Electric Palace article quoting MOSNUM as your authority, yet it clearly states:

"Edit warring over optional styles (such as 14 February and February 14) is unacceptable. If an article has been stable in a given style, it should not be converted without a style-independent reason. Where in doubt, defer to the style used by the first major contributor"

So please leave it alone.

Davidlooser (talk) 21:23, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thank you for quoting WP:RETAIN. That's just it... I demonstrated clearly there wasn't stability in any given style – that none could be discerned, therefore the above clause doesn't apply. What you are arguing for appears to be something called WP:OWN and WP:ILIKEIT. Now if you go and put it into a style that conforms with MOSNUM, whether that may be mmm dd, yyyy or dd mmm yyyy, then fine. If you insist on resisting, like you seem to be, then you are probably guilty of disruptive editing. --Ohconfucius ¡digame! 23:09, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No response

Hi there Ohconfucius, I was wondering if you can help me out with my questions that I left on my talk page. I know you are probably busy but was wondering if you can help. Thank you so much. Dinodong (talk) 01:46, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE Drive

Could you just tell what you meant by WTF?--Ankit Maity Talk • contribs 07:28, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Apologies for the abbreviations. As far as I could tell, there was no "fruit" in your edit:
    The instance of 'in' you changed to 'at' was incorrect – you introduced a grammatical error.
    Your insertion of 'magazine' was unnecessary, as it is obvious from the opening sentence what it is; the word 'magazine' is not part of the name and just a little formatting would have left no doubt to was a publication.
    formatting of publication names is expected – instances of 'ComputerScope' should be in italics, as is required by WP:ITALICS.
    The article reads like it was written by an four-year-old. I would have expected a copyeditor to consolidate the prose to eliminate multiple instances of, for example, 'ComputerScope is/was'.
    In particular, this was written in broken or otherwise unflowing English, and I would have expected a rewrite: "ComputerScope is distributed as a request only, controlled circulation. Readers must qualify themselves before receipt. A subscription can be obtained if a reader request does not meet the criteria to receive free copies."
I would suggest that you familiarise yourself with Wikipedia:Basic copyediting, as well as our style guides to better understand what the finer points of copyediting are; another resource I found very useful is User:Tony1/How to improve your writing. Regards, --Ohconfucius ¡digame! 08:15, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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