Talk:Metta Sandiford-Artest

He also is one of the greatest defenders of all-time basketball history. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.200.24.35 (talk) 01:09, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

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Hey he's suspended this season but I'm pretty sure he's still being paid right now.hot (referring to 2004-2005 season)

Suspension History

I know Ron Artest has been suspended at least 8 times, can someone add a complete suspension history.

ESPN has one on their website. I'll try adding it if I have a chance. - Nat Krause 04:14, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Hard foul? Isn't it pretty much agreed that upon further review Artest didn't foul Wallace very hard?

No, it is not agreed. It was clearly a flagrant foul. RickK 06:48, Nov 23, 2004 (UTC) It wasnt a flagrant foul, that refers to someone being knocked to the ground or worse. "Two plays led to Artest's hard foul. With 6:43 remaining, Rip Hamilton threw a cheapshot elbow into Jamaal Tinsley's back after a defensive rebound (they called a foul as the Pacers bench erupted). That could have been a flagrant since it looked like Hamilton went out of his way to belt him. And with 1:25 remaining, down by 11 points, Wallace knocked Artest into the basket support while blocking his layup -- from the camera angle, you can't tell if it's a foul or not." - the Sports Guy | Salasks 07:17, Nov 23, 2004 (UTC)

It was clearly not a flagrant foul, because Wallace was BARELY knocked off balance and did not fall down. Bill Walton himself as a commentator during the game that "it wasn't that hard of a foul...Wallace can't just react that way." Rocky 16:43, 16 July 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rock8591 (talk • contribs)

I did a revert to state that Artest asked for a month off because he was tired from promoting an R&B album for the group Allure on his new label, not "to promote his rap album" as the article stated.Ramsquire 20:20, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Also the language "bench clearing brawl" is a bit misleading since neither bench cleared and no one threw any punches, I edited it to say altercation. "Bench Clearing brawl" brings to mind baseball brawls, and old school hockey fights, which this clearly was not, until Artest ran into the stands.Ramsquire 20:24, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Birthdate discrepancy

There are 2 conflicting birthdates and birthplaces in this article...Ranma9617 08:09, 27 January 2006 (UTC) Insert non-formatted text here

New Album

we got any info on it? BIG Tuna 08:37, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Citation Needed

Though traded midseason to the struggling‹The template Talkfact is being considered for merging.›  Kings franchise, Artest quickly found his place on the team by providing some much needed defense.‹The template Talkfact is being considered for merging.›  --Villainone 23:55, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Dog of NBA Star Ron Artest Seized by Animal Services After Reports it Was Underfed

SACRAMENTO — Animal services officers seized a Great Dane from the mansion of Sacramento Kings star Ron Artest, saying the dog was underfed. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,250780,00.html Crocoite 22:12, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Further info on this topic "Dogs of Kings Forward Artest Have Been in Pound for 77 Nights Because of Poor Care"

LOOMIS — Dogs owned by Sacramento Kings forward Ron Artest have spent a total of 77 nights at the pound since July because of poor care by their owner, costing the NBA star $1,942 in boarding and impound fees, county records show. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,251084,00.html Crocoite 21:41, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Photo

I think it is totally inapproprate to have Artest's mugshot as the main photo and the only photo of him up there. Yes, he has had a few problems, but he is known first as a basketball player, not a criminal. Use the mugshots for the serial killers. Given a choice between having no photo and having his mugshot, I say you definitely have to go with no photo. Why? The insinuation of having that pic is that Artest is famous for being a criminal and that is untrue. He is notorious because he plays professional basketball and he has done and said many dumb things, but if he wasn't a basketball player, a very good basketball player, and he made those same comments, you wouldn't hear about it.

You're right, if he wasn't famous, you wouldn't hear about it, and he would be in prison.

Doubt he'll be in prison if he wasn't a celebrity, not like he did anything illegal off the court. He has a history of fights on the court, and flagrant fouls, but if he played in the 1980s physical league, he'd be considered a wuss. 24.136.40.99 (talk) 03:15, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

I think it's fine to have the pic in the article, but it should be under the "Kings" section, where the incident that led to that mugshot being taken took place. I'm no expert on how these things work, but I'll check back here in a few days and if no one has provided a reason as to why this pic should stay up top, I'll figure out how to move it down to where it belongs. Maxterpiece 07:36, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Why does it say he is with the Lakers?

Rockets trade

Per source: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bk/bkn/5914062.html

Due to the rumoured players involved, the deal can't be completed until August 14. If there's a rash of edits changing his team details, I have no problem with semi-protecting the article until the 14th. --Madchester (talk) 01:13, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Two more players are rumoured in the trade

Source: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/5914719.html

Again, the trade details are still murky until it can be officially announced on August 14. --Madchester (talk) 15:16, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Ron Artest is a Houston Rocket now. The only reason the trade isn't "official" is because the NBA has a clause where you are forbidden to trade a drafted player within 30 days of the draft. That is why the NBA office won't approve the trade until August 14th. Neverthless, he is as much of a Rocket as Yao Ming or Tracy McGrady. To keep this page intact as if he was still on the Kings is 1) pointless and 2) a waste of time and 3)just going to annoy and confuse people :-\ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sag969 (talk • contribs) 17:48, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

We adhere to WP:CRYSTAL; note the statement Avoid predicted sports team line-ups, which are inherently unverifiable and speculative. There's no guarantee the trade will be completed as is. We had similar problems with that Kidd trade to Dallas, with editors jumping to conclusions despite the league not approving the trade. We all know what happened when Devean George's contract clause kicked in.

The best we can do is state that Artest is in a pending trade; but we have to wait for it to be completed before changing team and roster details. --Madchester (talk) 18:12, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

No, its not the same as the Kidd trade. Kidd's trade was being scrutinized because it required a player coming out of retirement to complete it! In this trade, one of the players cannot be officially traded till a certain date. Once that date comes - August 14 - the trade will be "official." There is hardly any chance that the the trade really won't happen. To use that excuse in order to hold back information is not too smart. I'm not going to go ahead and get into some pointless back and forth argument with you about it. I just want you to realize that trying to hold back a wave of editors over a minor technicality is a waste of time - both yours and other editors.Sag969 (talk) 19:57, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

The trade is unofficial until August 14. It's that simple. We don't change team or roster details of an unofficial transaction per WP:CRYSTAL. There's already a section listing the pending trade - that's the only way we can describe the situation at this stage. --Madchester (talk) 17:14, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Gender Bender

{{editsemiprotected}} He is not a she. That I know of. In the first paragraph: "...it's being reported that she might sign a deal..."—Preceding unsigned comment added by Spankypoo (talk • contribs) 19:24, July 2, 2009

Not done, I don't see any instances where Artest is referred to as she. That may have been a temporary error in a previous version. -Optigan13 (talk) 03:42, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Signing with Lakers

The team needs to be changed to the Los Angeles Lakers because he's reached a preliminary agreement which basically means he's already signed with them —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcbresnock4 (talk • contribs) 22:39, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Behavior

I'm surprised that the acknowledgement of his erratic behavior mentions nothing about his alleged bipolarity. If I remember the story correctly, he was diagnosed, refused to accept it or take the prescribed medication at first, but later did. Anyone want to research and add? Senor Vergara (talk) 00:48, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Artest's Witnessing Murder on Court

Turns out that this actually did happen, though whether or not Artest was there when it happened I can't know for sure. http://www.nytimes.com/1991/04/15/nyregion/player-dies-in-stabbing-at-basketball-game.html?pagewanted=1 In case you are wondering, Artest also grew up in Queens, and would have been 12 when the incident occurred. The person who committed the stabbing was 16. SO it's certainly not out of the realm of possibility that Artest was there. Considering that he was a pretty good player, I would think it also quite possible that he would be friends with older players in the neighborhood. Crazy stuff. 71.42.216.227 (talk) 00:12, 1 May 2010 (UTC)Shan

Add his wife & kids his bio section please

Add to his biography :

Ron Artest and Kimsha Hatfield dated since 1994; they married in 2003. They have 3 children together:Sade, Ron 3, and Diamond(2003). From an affair with Filipina Jennifer Palma he had son Jeron Artest in 2001 (2001) . Thanks. 173.73.41.243 (talk) 23:11, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

No. 15

I checked on http://store.nba.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3325366&lmdn=Category and click on Select a current player, then clicked Ron Artest, it ended up having #15! No proof though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.154.50.125 (talk) 16:17, 5 August 2010 (UTC)