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Jimo City → Jimo – Relisted. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:22, 8 July 2011 (UTC) 1) All other entries on the disambiguation page Jimo refer to abbreviations, which should be spelt JIMO or less commonly, J.I.M.O. This topic is the only true "Jimo". 2) A city of 1 million something and the 17th most powerful (2010) county or county-level city in the PRC (with 1400+ counties alone) is obviously the most important existing entity on that page. —HXL's Roundtable and Record 20:01, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose; it's too likely that someone looking for JIMO will type it in lowercase. Powers ^T 20:07, 8 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Strictly speaking, 'Jimo', is not lowercase 'JIMO'. Examining the results of a mainline Google search for 'Jimo', none of the results for the proposed satellite spelled the acronym incorrectly, and only one of the city results spelled it in lower-case. Besides, past the first page, the results overwhelmingly point to the city. —HXL: 聊天 (T) 和 貢獻 (C) 20:34, 8 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support: According to naming conventions, if a place is the primary topic for a particular name (which Jimo is), then its article should normally carry that name. Anyone looking for subjects that can be abbreviated as JIMO or J.I.M.O are easily served with a hatnote atop of the article for the city Quigley (talk) 22:41, 9 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Jimo should not be named "Jimo City" if that is not actually its name. If disambiguation needs to be given in the title of the article, the title could be changed to "Jimo (City)".Ferox Seneca (talk) 19:26, 10 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you both for your input. Ferox, in regarding official names, in the majority of municipalities around the world, "X City" is not the official (translated) name, but when the official names of Chinese and Japanese cities are translated, it is indeed "X City". WP:NC-ZH#Administrative stands as it is for now. —Xiaoyu: 聊天 (T) 和 贡献 (C) 13:06, 11 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose This article needs a lot more substance first before it should be considered for rename and move. Before its population, economic and political impact is established, Jimo is just a county-level city in the prefecture of Qingdao. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shenhemu (talk • contribs) 05:06, 15 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am afraid you greatly misunderstand policy and guidelines. Substance is not the sole determinant of which article is the primary topic. And I also believe you mis-understand the power that county-level cities can hold. Yiwu (Zhejiang) is far more well-known than its parent, Jinhua, and another example of power is Kunshan (Jiangsu). I listed the link for all, so why doubt me? —Xiaoyu: 聊天 (T) 和 贡献 (C) 05:16, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is not a misunderstanding. I am quite aware that substance is not the sole determinant. Also, I agree with you that Jimo is a city important enough to warrant an article name with hatnote links to other Jimos, as Quigley mentioned above. In my opinion, however, editors such as you should first spend more time on improving the content of the article to properly reflect the importance of Jimo, and after that is finished, spend your time on bureaucratic details such as disambiguation notes, renames and moves. Shenhemu (talk) 01:04, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]