Talk:Roseanne Barr

Random Wisdom

Didn't she claim to be a lesbian, have multiple personality disorder, have been abducted by aliens and various other claims? I think there's some stuff missing here... Tuf-Kat 04:50, Aug 23, 2004 (UTC)

She said all that jokingly, not seriously. She does not truly have "multiple personality disorder", she knows she is not a lesbian, and knows there are no "aliens" coming around and snatching people up. Most of us know not to take her jokes literally. It's all part of her salty humor. ~c~

You may believe that it is jokingly, but can you prove it? It has been reported in many many places as a fact. So if it isn't, a lot of people clearly didn't get the joke, and perhaps she should write some detractions on her website. --IceHunter (talk) 18:57, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

She also said she was abused as a child, and made much of growing up Jewish in Salt Lake City. RickK 05:18, Aug 23, 2004 (UTC)

Jewish in Salt Lake...That's hillarious.--Gbleem 06:06, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Roseanne is Jewish. Yes, Salt Lake City is mostly (not all) Morman, but there ARE Jewish people living in Salt Lake City; it's not unheard of. ~c~

She also claimed that her father masturbated in front of the family, and that she had recovered memories, back when that was trendy. Back in the day when people "worked" on recovering memories of childhood abuse, first remembering the easy ones, then the hard ones, until they had implicated their whole family and so could relax in the knowledge that their unhappiness was not their own fault, Roseanne was referred to as a "celebrity survivor".

Give me a break! Roseanne is an inspiration and her honesty is to be commended! These characters above seem to have nothing better to do than to try healing their own issues by hurting others. How sad indeed. Rosie....we love you!!! RS

How true. And Roseanne never claimed that her memories were "recovered" or had ever been forgotten. She just did not reveal the painful memories to the press for many years. In addition, she actually did not intend to reveal the incest publicly, but a press member sneaked into one of the meetings with her psychologist and leaked it to the public. This resulted in many misreports and tabloid rumors which led to Roseanne coming out and speaking with magazines like People and the news magazines. She was not merely "following a fad" here; Roseanne is very strong-willed and doesn't cow to any trends of the day. It is unfortunate that some people feel threatened enough by a strong-minded woman and try to discredit her. ~c~

In a 1991 People magazine interview, she claimed to have been an incest survivor, accusing both parents of physical and sexual abuse, charges which they have publically denied. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001683/bio Just in case you don't believe it. Seminumerical 09:58, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

How on earth did this get the title "Random Wisdom"? Conjecture, opinion, and heresay are not fact and certainly not wisdom. And on a side note, how does a member of the press "sneak" into a private session with a psychologist, as a bookcase perhaps?(DML)

Actually this is in The Independent from February 17, 1997: "Roseanne says that she has a condition called dissociative identity disorder which she describes as having a personality that's been "hit with a hammer and smashed, so all the emotions have been separated". The star, in therapy now for five years, says her personalities are so distinct that they have different signatures." —Mike Allen 01:24, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Cleanup

I'm tagging this article for cleanup, as it reads like a tabloid article rather than an encyclopedia entry. I feel the emphasis should be more on her career than what Mick Foley says about her in his book (and I cannot for the life of me figure out why that was deemed relevent). -Fearfulsymmetry 02:41, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Actually, Roseanne is recovering from MPD with the help of the famous therapist Colin Ross. If you look on her web site, she discusses this. She is also mentioned briefly in the book, "Miss America by Day." The author describes an episode of MPD Roseanne went through when they were at a function together.

I note that the "official myspace page" external link actually goes to some random myspace page with no apparent link to Roseanne Barr. This should be replaced with a correct link, or removed if such is unavailable. 71.105.3.130 (talk) 08:15, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

There is no mention at all of Rosanne's role in "The Larry Sanders Show" Seasons 3 and 4. I recommend adding that information as she was a significant enough character to be married to Larry and then divorce. 161.130.197.68 (talk) 22:00, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Proper name of article?

Barr legally changed her name to ONLY "Rosanne", with no last name, many years ago. This has also been the name she has used professionally for some time. It seems, then, inappropriate that this article be called "Roseanne Barr". I am going to go about changing that.

Please sign your comments. And you are incorrect. She legally changed her name back to "Roseanne Barr" in 2003, I believe, which is why she is now credited under her full name. Rhythmnation2004 01:22, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Late March edits

The edits from late March, begining with Jami86e's edit on March 23 to 67.186.128.242 on March 28, were reverted for several reasons: 1) There was blantant vandalism in several of the edits. 2) A (presumably) sarcastic merge was proposed. 3) The bulk of the edits by Treybien were mostly unecessary -- much relevant and important information was removed during these edits. There were a couple of worthy edits, but someone should shift through the different versions and pick and choose what seems appropriate for this article. -- 70.121.222.2 21:42, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Guess what?

Believe it or not, my Mom knew Roseanne when she was little! I have an uncle who goes by Barr (it's actually his middle name), named after Roseanne's father, who was a friend of my Grandpa.--Matau 22:57, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

READ Biographies of Living People Before you edit

If it appears here it better have a source that meets Wikipedia attribution guidelines. Dominick ^(TALK) 18:44, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Plastic surgery quote

"Barr went back to stand-up comedy but with a notably different appearance: she has lost some weight, dyed her hair blond, and had plastic surgery, which she does not recommend. "Now I realize that everyone has to get old and die, but it was still a very bad experience....No one looks better after plastic surgery. Just pink and shiny. At the end of it, you look like an idiot." Much of her surgery was for health reasons; she had a rhinoplasty to correct sleep apnea; while her breast reduction surgery was for health reasons."

I'm not doubting the quote or the health reasons, but can anyone find a citation to back them up? Is it from a tv show or radio interview? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Phish0202 (talk • contribs) 07:12, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Biography assessment rating comment

WikiProject Biography Assessment

Not the best B-class, but a B class all the same.

The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. -- Yamara 09:23, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Desperate Housewives?

It says she was (or will be?) on Desperate Housewives... I didn't find anything about this online. Is this true? Or did someone get this confused with laurie metcalf? Angelatomato 11:49, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Controversies - Obama

Nothing on, I paraphrase, that "a vote for Obama is a vote for right wing republicans"? Surely this deserves notice. 76.186.118.246 (talk) 23:38, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Cartoon.

She had a cartoon series on TV, around the same time as The Bedrock Flintstone Kids. I think it was called Rosie. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.161.122.193 (talk) 12:16, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

It was called Little Rosie. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.147.182.203 (talk) 22:22, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Did Roseanne Barr suffer a (temporary) facial paralysis ?

Somebody has put Roseanne Barr's name on the list of famous persons with Bell's Palsy. Talk:Bell's palsy#Milo Ventimiglia and Roseanne Barr - references needed I see no evidence in this article, and only limited evidence in a Google search. Can somebody clarify and, importantly, provide a reference? Power.corrupts (talk) 18:24, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it's now sourced. —Mike Allen 01:27, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Picture

Shouldn't there be a better picture for this page? It's not very recent at all and it really does not even show her. 67.175.55.85 (talk) 18:30, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Terrible picture. The worst I've ever seen on Wikipedia, in fact. Fuzzform (talk) 23:03, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

The worst of it is that it'll stay there, since it's not fair-use. —/Mendaliv/^2¢/_Δ's/ 07:18, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

I'll chime in also and say that the image may as well be of the back of her head. Wikipedia is not Myspace. 142.59.239.106 (talk) 01:28, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Controversies

It appears this problem occurred earlier with an Obama-related quote from Barr, and is now occurring with the Israel-related quotation. But it seems to me that it's a bit of a fabrication to refer to something she's said or written as a "controversy" with only a reference to the quote. There's a lot of things Barr has said on her blog and elsewhere that MIGHT be controversial, but it seems the burden of proof for controversy should be some news story about the incident or something else actually establishing the relevance of the term "controversy" to the actual incident described. It's a controversial STATEMENT, sure, but has it actually sparked any sort of controversy? I think not. 72.155.172.233 (talk) 18:08, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

-Wasn't there a bit of controversy back on July 26th 1990 during a baseball game where Roseanne Barr intentionally sung the National anthem off key in an attempt to be funny? I know this is a bit off topic from the other thing but I think this could be a bit noteworthy to put on. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.233.140.152 (talk) 00:48, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

^^^This should be in the article!!^^^ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.185.125.195 (talk) 03:13, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Socialist

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Thismightbezach (talk) 04:05, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Have you got a reliable source we can use for this assertion? --Orange Mike | Talk 23:00, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

O'Reilly's show can be used as source (though not linking to the YouTube video). It ca be found here. —Mike Allen 23:32, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Okay, so it says she said she was raised a socialist, but when flat-out asked, declined to accept that label and claimed a lot of common ground with Sarah Palin. --Orange Mike | Talk 23:54, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Image

I don't believe the image is free. The source is just a mirror copy of her Wikipedia article and the author is "unknown". —Mike Allen 00:48, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Can she be both "jewish" and a follower of Jesus Christ?

That seems like a contradiction to me. Uucp (talk) 19:33, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Because it doesnt make sense to you, certainly does not make it untrue or even improbable. 98.244.116.15 (talk) 21:42, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

St. Peter and St. Paul didn't see any contradiction there. Varlaam (talk) 22:17, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

flashing rumour?

roseanne Barr was at some inogirel party, and quick flash or something pretty sure people did'nt like it. --Pabloviva22 (talk) 23:21, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Why would that be relevant to her biography? —Mike Allen 23:23, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

its on wikipedia, spitting and grabbing her crotch. --Pabloviva22 (talk) 23:37, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Yes because it was in many, many reliable sources and it's something that is still talked about today. Even the President of the United States had something to say about it. Anything else? —Mike Allen 23:54, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Who created the TV show is disputed

These two sentences from the article

In 1987, The Cosby Show executive producers Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner wanted to bring a "no-perks family comedy" to television. They hired Cosby writer Matt Williams to write a script about factory workers and then signed on the inexperienced Barr to play Roseanne Conner.

Are taken directly from the citation, an Entertainment Weekly article. But, they are contradicted by the piece Roseanne wrote in the current issue of New York magazine, here, in which she says this:

After my 1985 appearance on The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson, I was wooed by producers in Hollywood, who told me they wanted to turn my act into a sitcom. When Marcy Carsey—who co-owned Carsey-Werner with her production partner, Tom Werner (producers of The Cosby Show)—asked me to sign, I was impressed. I considered The Cosby Show to be some of the greatest and most revolutionary TV ever.

Marcy presented herself as a sister in arms. I was a cutting-edge comic, and she said she got that I wanted to do a realistic show about a strong mother who was not a victim of Patriarchal Consumerist Bullshit—in other words, the persona I had carefully crafted over eight previous years in dive clubs and biker bars: a fierce working-class Domestic Goddess. It was 1987, and it seemed people were primed and ready to watch a sitcom that didn’t have anything like the rosy glow of middle-class confidence and comfort, and didn’t try to fake it. ABC seemed to agree. They picked up Roseanne in 1988.

It didn’t take long for me to get a taste of the staggering sexism and class bigotry that would make the first season of Roseanne god-awful. It was at the premiere party when I learned that my stories and ideas—and the ideas of my sister and my first husband, Bill—had been stolen. The pilot was screened, and I saw the opening credits for the first time, which included this: CREATED BY MATT WILLIAMS. I was devastated and felt so betrayed that I stood up and left the party. Not one person noticed.

I don't know enough about Roseanne's career to integrate the New York comments appropriately into the article: if somebody else does, that would be great. I would think at a minimum the section should be rewritten to acknowledge that who created the TV show is disputed.

Sue Gardner (talk) 05:44, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Hmm did you read the following sentences after that? I thought I made it clear in the article that the 'creation' was disputed. —Mike Allen 06:02, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Books

Someone with more time than I should add Barr's three books in a "Books" section, please. I think they are all in there. Dualus (talk) 22:59, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Heritage

It says she's Jewish, but she's clearly Alaskan Native... you can tell just by looking at her — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.47.138.64 (talk) 05:04, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for proven why WP:OR and WP:BLP policies are in place. Thank you. —Mike Allen 06:39, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

you're welcome? I don't understand..50.47.140.38 (talk) 23:31, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Eurasian?

There is an old debate about whether Russians are Europeans or Asiatics. But that debate applies to Russians proper, not Russian Jews. Jews were restricted to the Pale. Her ancestors were just plain old Europeans, not exotic "Eurasians".
Varlaam (talk) 22:28, 4 July 2011 (UTC)