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Former good article nomineeDiego Maradona was a Sports and recreation good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
August 17, 2006Good article nomineeNot listed

I Changed....

i made one change. i put the current name for the 60m goal for us, the argentinians. its name is "The cosmic kite" or "el barilete cosmico"

Possible faking of photo

There are two photographs. One shows Maradona's hand about a foot from the ball. The other appears to show it in contact with the ball. I think that faking, possibly with Photoshop, has been used. The images of Shilton and Maradona seem to have been moved up. Otherwise, the two are virtually identical. The dates when the two appeared should be interesting.

As far as I can remember, the photo with the gap of about a foot was the first to appear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.177.5.12 (talk) 11:23, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Another photo, taken by Daniel Motz, at about the same time, shows Maradona's hand about a foot from the ball. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.97.194.200 (talk) 15:57, 6 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have never seen a Photoshopped fake of the Motz photo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.194.61.128 (talk) 13:39, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

AND also sucks in the game

Best player chosen by the people

Hey ive checked Pele's article in the introduction with all his nominations as the best player by FIFA and footballing beaurocrats and i'm glad he deserves them. How about Maradona... Can we at least put his only award as the best player of the century in the introduction, I mean i know you all hate maradona with all your heart, but I think he deserves at least that....I mean wikipedia is a world wide information source by the people for the people and Maradona was chosen in the worldwide vote organized by FIFA and voted by the people themselves. I think it's fair I don't know.

Here is one of the many artiel in FIFA.. http://www.fifa.com/classicfootball/players/player=174732/bio.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by FIFApoll (talk • contribs)

His introduction says that he is "widely regarded as one of the greatest football players of all time". If you try to prove that by adding the FIFA poll, I think it makes the statement weaker. The award belongs in the article, it already is, but not in the introduction.
And please stop assuming that all wikipedia editors hate Maradona. I don't. --EdgeNavidad (Talk · Contribs) 20:30, 9 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This same editor, whose choice of username suggests that he/she has a specific agenda in terms of the promotion of this poll result, has been trying to restore disproportionate levels of detail into the lead paragraph of the article. I have invited him/her to discuss the matter or to try to explain why he/she considers this to be appropriate, but talk pages remain unused and editnotes uninformative. Kevin McE (talk) 07:51, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
And he has done it yet again, with no consideration for consensus and no apparent interest in discussion. Kevin McE (talk) 17:23, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Edit 19 aug: Yes I created that account to fix this, In the spanish and portuguese wiki I didnt need to bc they are a fair wikipedia Giving recognition to both players at the top page but Here I guess is diff there are articles http://www.fifa.com/newscentre/news/newsid=76134.html You might find more since your very good at wikipedia, tHe award is real it took place in rome (I kNow u know just repeating) . In all fairness with no preference to the other and me being brazilian at least I know I tried to give Maradona a recognition at the top, as a football fan I Tried. Anyways Thanks for responding here I didnt know how to talk in private. Yes about hating Maradona at least in the english community is a huge population I Guess its not all English speaking Football fans But a good portion :). — Preceding unsigned comment added by FIFApoll (talk • contribs) 04:29, 19 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The FIFA poll is already linked from the very first sentence of the article, which features the phrase "widely regarded as one of the greatest football players of all time". No-one is suggesting the removal of that, but additional detail of that is inappropriate to the head. It is adequately dealt with in the relevant section of the article. I can understand your concern that there might be an anti-Argentine bias among English editors: the same concern led me to put both this article and the Argentine national team on my watchlist. But I have found little evidence of such bias, any that has occurred has been quickly reverted, and I do not consider it to be an issue in the current status of the article. That there is however bias in your own motivation appears clear from the fact that while you praise the lead of the articles in Spanish and Portuguese wikipedias, you are not suggesting that his altercations with the press, which are reported in the lead of the Portuguese version, nor the extended exposition found in both the sister wikis of his drug problems, should be incorporated. Neither are you asking that the description of the Goal of the Century be excised from the en.wiki account. Kevin McE (talk) 10:44, 19 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

MY LAST EDIT AUG 20: Right little evidence...one guy from ESPN calling him a fat bastard who could dribble is lil evidence i guess, north american I think. Blatter too does not even consider him one of the greatest, bc he mixes personal life into that, it's a shame, but his own award backfired to maradona's side. Altercations with the press drug problems, put it at the top who cares, i never thought of that because it doesnt really matter to describe what he did on the pitch and I really dont care if its at the stop even at the first sentence as long as you put his recognitions there too. There's a missing informations and details at the worldcups he was in as well as what he did in napoli which was never repeated again, the times, not a journalist as you "nicely put it" , is not the only source who considers him as the best performance of the worldcup which is a huge thing though garrincha got pretty close, i think its pretty obvious if you have watched the wc and there are sources even quotes from DTs Golden Ball Players more Magazines and even at the FIFA WEBPAGE "single handedly won the worldcup with the best performance ever"... If the goal of the century was chosen by the people in the same manner the FIFA CENTURY AWARD was chosen and it's at the top, then there should say "best player of the century award" at the top page just like goal of the century to be fair or just like Pele's awards are all at the top he doesnt have a section, but i guess in all "your fairness" and you "watching over Maradona's Article" would take out both recognitions at the top and put it in the reference or really down there where people rarely read. There's nothing here to do, this is a biased wikipedia...I guess wikipedia it's not gonna be wikipedia for this article, at least in the english version.

But anyways like I said I tried, you win since you spend more time here but you shouldn't it's a bad thing for you.

) have fun. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.74.21.174 (talk) 16:38, 19 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

1986 World Cup - Victor Hugo Morales commentary

At the end of the third paragraph of this section is the following: "Right after the goal occurred, it left the television commentator "sobbing in joy", and apologizing for his outburst.[17]". I'd recommend this was edited to specify that the commentator was Victor Hugo Morales. Perhaps the citation should also be changed to something available online, such as this? http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/news/newsid=1457457.html Zaprowsdower (talk) 13:46, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Maradona's worldcups

I feel the post below has some truths to it, there is a lot of interesting information regarding maradona's performance at every worldcup that is missing here. Can somebody edit more details of 1982? The harsh mark from gentile? 1986 how he won the golden ball by unanimous vote? or in 1990? where Maradona had more than three injuries and was the most fouled player in worldcup history in that tournament, he was also fouled every time he touched the ball in the game against brasil. The handball he did to save argentina from being defeated against USRR after nery pumpido broke his leg? Again the 1990 section makes Maradona look as if he was ordinary in that worldcup which I don't think is very true, as he won the Bronze ball which is not listed here. Important quotes and controversial quotes which also helped his team to the final and his statements after the final before the semifinal Napoli's extreme support for Maradona despite being italians in the semifinal? Ahh forgot how he dribbled past the entire italian defense to assist somebody who missed also ! those were great plays !

Anyways, I feel football fans are missing a lot of interesting information from Diego's worldcups.

More of his performance than his declarations. Then I don't know how wikipedia editing works. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.191.4.240 (talk) 07:02, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to add information related to these comments provided that you have verifiable and reliable sources for the material. And do sign your comments. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 07:18, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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