Talk:Jamie Chung

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Source for birthdate and indication of permission to print

http://www.jamiechung.org/jamie-chung-profile.php http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1512166/bio Unomi (talk) 14:19, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just out of curiosity, where did the fan site get its information? Imdb, after all, is not considered a reliable source by Wikipedia. Nightscream (talk) 17:15, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How about http://www.tv.com/jamie-chung/person/260555/summary.html ? Which also happens to have her middle name. Unomi (talk) 01:04, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

An RS, in answer to your question in your Edit Summary, would be a source that is regarded as a reliable source of information, such as the New York Times, particularly in regard to the subject or area of knowledge pertaining to the article's subject. Since Chung is an entertainer, sources like Entertainment Weekly, People, Ain't It Cool News would be considered reliable. When in doubt, though, the Reliable Sources Noticeboard is always a good help. That's where I first learned that WP doesn't consider IMDB reliable, because its content is user-generated, without editorial control. I think TV.com is considered reliable, but you can always ask at the RSN to be sure. Thanks for finding that source. Nightscream (talk) 03:10, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I just went and asked at the Noticeboard myself. Nightscream (talk) 03:12, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Drat. I was hoping it was okay. According to the responses on the Noticeboard, anyone with an account can edit bio info, so it's not reliable. Sorry. Nightscream (talk) 15:08, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia articles are supposed to be based primarily on reliable sources. However, that doesn't mean you can never use a primary source in article about the subject. If Jamie Chung has an official web page, I think it's OK to cite that for her date of birth (unless there is some controversy about it). A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 16:47, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No argument there. Does she have a site with that info on it? Nightscream (talk) 04:17, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Surprisingly, there doesn't seem to be an official web site for her. This appears to be her personal MySpace page but it doesn't list her birthdate. (If it did, we'd also need some sort of way of verifying that it's really her page and not created by a fan.) A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 17:54, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This was my observation the last time I checked. Thanks for checking again. Plastikspork (talk) 03:03, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Unless there is some doubt/controversy over her birthday, you can put it in the article and just not source it. WP:V says that it's OK to not have a source if it's unlikely to be challenged. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 17:30, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not by my reading of WP:BLP#Privacy of personal information. Let me know if I am missing something. Thanks! Plastikspork (talk) 23:11, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I could be wrong, but I think it would be OK. WP:BLP#Privacy of personal information says "Wikipedia includes dates of birth for some well-known persons where the dates have been published in one or more reliable sources linked to the persons ... or have otherwise been widely published." It's been widely published on IMDB, TV.com, www.celebritywonder.com, and dozens of other Web sites[1]. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 23:42, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I would be happy with one verifiable reliable source. Facebook would work if it can be reasonably verified as being legit. TV.com is a wiki, and IMDB's FAQ does not inspire confidence. We would have to check the sourcing of the other sites. I have seen cases where they were just citing Wikipedia, which turns into an unfortunate circular argument. Thanks! Plastikspork (talk) 23:50, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Me, too! Believe me, I've been working on it. :) But anyway, WP:BLP says "or have otherwise been widely published". It doesn't say "or have otherwise been widely published by reliable sources". So I think we're OK.

In any case, I think that celebritywonder.com might be a WP:RS. I brought it up at the WP:RSN [2]. I only got one response. Maybe you want to take a look at it and tell me your opinion? A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 00:05, 3 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I added her full name/birthdate to the article, using this and this as sources. If this is her real "Twitter" page, then it lists the full name also. All Hallow's (talk) 00:52, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The TCM page has a link for users to submit a biography, which seems problematic. I am still searching for the "source" used by both pages. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 05:45, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What about the Twitter source? That lists her middle name, which is all that TCM does. I didn't check very thoroughly, but is there any way to know if that's her real Twitter page? (Another link I added was the California Birth Records, which confirm that the date and name are at the very least accurate; but that's more of a primary source) All Hallow's (talk) 06:09, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This PDF write-up from the BC Film Commission also lists her middle name. All Hallow's (talk) 06:12, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The sourcing for the middle name seems fine. I'm more concerned with the DOB. I will have a closer look later. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 06:21, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Update

Can somebody update that she played a role in Grown Ups(2010 film) 98.154.37.202 (talk) 20:55, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. For future reference, though, new messages should either go at the bottom of a relevant section, or (if you're starting a new discussion), under a new section heading at the bottom of the page. :-) Nightscream (talk) 21:40, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Hangover 2

She will be starring in The Hangover 2. http://news-briefs.ew.com/2010/11/02/hangover-2-adds-jamie-chung/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Asale002 (talk • contribs) 17:45, 2 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sucker Punch

Sucker Punch has been released, so the word "upcoming" needs to be removed from the opening paragraph.Kraustin (talk) 18:07, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry is randomly inserted under Reality TV Work, it needs to be removed. - Russell —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.97.170.76 (talk) 00:11, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Korean American?

Is Jamie's ethnicity really important? She is an American television personality. As far as I'm concerned, she was born and raised in California and does not hold Korean citizenship. 75.4.235.91 (talk) 04:33, 20 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The article doesn't say that she holds Korean citizenship. It merely says that she's Korean-American, since that's what the source says, in this case, her MTV bio. If she thought it relevant enough to mention for her Real World bio, then it's legitimate to mention it here. Nightscream (talk) 09:04, 20 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Really? I recall that many articles of "minorities" in America (like Tila Nguyen and Lucy Liu) used to state that. For example, in Tila Nguyen's article they first called her a Vietnamese-American. In time, it was explained in her early life that her parents were immigrants of Vietnam to the US. It is not a secret that Tila is Vietnamese; she has referenced this on MySpace and Twitter. But eventually, it was established that ethnicity should not be included in the lead. This is something I have also noticed scrapped from most articles. Same for Lucy Liu. Rather than calling her Chinese/Taiwanese American or whatever, as she has referred to herself, they dubbed her an American actress. ★Dasani★ 19:16, 20 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Furthermore, if Jamie had had Korean citizenship, that would be notable for inclusion. We could specify that she is born and raised in America of American and Korean citizenship. ★Dasani★ 19:20, 20 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The article does not refer to her as Korean-American in the Lead. It only refers to her heritage in the Early life section. The Lead indeed refers to her merely as "American". Nightscream (talk) 05:57, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Such a term is often considered offensive, undesirable, and/or inaccurate by those who it is placed on. However, I have checked the sources and it appears this is what Jamie refers to herself as. I was hoping more detail could be brought into the case. For example, does Jamie speak Korean? Did she and her family practice traditional Korean celebrations? Unfortunately, it appears such questions cannot be sourced. As it is, I guess we'll just have to leave the wording to how it is: [self-referred] Korean-American. Thank you for clearing that up. ★Dasani★ 19:58, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Remove the incorrect "Korean name"

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Can someone please remove the fake "Korean name" from this article? 제이미 정 is just a Hangul spelling of the English name. It's not a Korean name. Her Korean name isn't publicly known to the Korean media so they just call her by her English name. And 鍾潔咪 has nothing to do with Korean whatsoever. It's certainly not the "hanja" of her name. It's a Chinese Mandarin spelling of her English name. If it were a real Korean name it would be read as "Jong Gyeolmi" which is a really weird name. 61.18.170.50 (talk) 15:56, 24 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]