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EXE and APP

Hi all,

I think that the articles APP (file format) and EXE are so similar that they should be merged into a single article, EXE and APP. They're both formats for program files, but on different platforms. What do you guys think?

Thanks,

The Doctahedron.EXE, 21:55, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

I agree there's some work to do but don't support that specific merge. APP (file format) should be converted to a disambiguation list and merged into APP. Its Symbian info box should be merged to SIS (file format). EXE could be merged into Executable and redirected there. – Pnm (talk) 22:09, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

• Oppose. Except for the fact, that they both describe executable file formats, they have really nothing in common, different operating systems, different platforms, completely different formats and calling mechanisms. There's alot of stuff (that is, dozens of pages) that could be added to EXE (and probably will be added eventually) that would be totally out of scope in an APP or a generic Executable article, and vice versa. --Matthiaspaul (talk) 22:40, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

The average Joe wouldn't know the difference. The distinction between .exe and .app could be discussed within the article. Cheers, The Doctahedron.EXE, 00:48, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

• Strong oppose - the average Joe does not care. The distinction is as obvious as an apple is not an orange.Jasper Deng (talk) 00:50, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

I'll create a draft here. 68.173.113.106 (talk) 00:58, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

A better title would be "Comparison of .exe and .app", but I feel that there is not enough information to warrant covering this. However, a link in the See Also sections of the existing articles to each other with the explanation like ".exe, a comparable file format used with Microsoft Windows" would be great.Jasper Deng (talk) 01:03, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

• Oppose. These are specific to different operating systems and differ in details. There is already an article (Executable) about the general concept. -R. S. Shaw (talk) 04:09, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
• Oppose: first, I really strongly oppose the title (if these were synonyms, we should have chosen one of them). Also I see no sense in picking two of formats and joining them. A better way to catch all of them (including a.out, ELF and many more) would be an article "Executable format" (currently a redirect to object file), but I really see no need for such merge. For now I would merge EXE to Portable executable and APP (file format) to APP. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk) 08:44, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
• Oppose: Are we ready to remove the tag from that page?
  24.50.159.185 (talk) 15:21, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
• I Oppose merge. I support R. S. Shaw's suggestion to create an Executable article if there is enough material. I have taken down the merge banners. --Kvng (talk) 21:56, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
• I agree all these articles should be merged with byte--167.30.56.22 (talk) 05:47, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
  • Comment; 167.30.56.22 (talk · contribs · WHOIS), the IP address on the comment immediately above, appears to be used solely for vandalism. TJRC (talk) 16:52, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Closing discussion per WP:SNOW. Conclusion: No merge. History2007 (talk) 02:06, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

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Never mind, it looks like after discussion I am going to have to fix it myself. But let me instead nominate Processor register for help. It has a multi-tag on the top and as a basic hardware item should be fixed sooner than later. Thanks. History2007 (talk) 14:22, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

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Not a "computer science" article really. History2007 (talk)

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• Sbmeirow • Talk • 04:22, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

"App" or "Application"?

In articles about application software, is it desirable to use the word "app", or is "application" preferred? - LuckyLouie (talk) 20:59, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

AFAICS the modern sources use nearly exclusively the word "app" when referring to mobile software and "application" for desktop software. As historically the word "app" was mainly a jargon word, I think that sticking with "application" would be a good choice when in doubt. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk) 22:49, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Sounds right to me. Thanks. - LuckyLouie (talk) 22:51, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

I would say that an app was a particular type of application software. Dmcq (talk) 23:19, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Which one? — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk) 23:33, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

I was saying that it wasn't a binary split between the mobile and desktop but that application software was an overall term for a number of types of software. Dmcq (talk) 00:01, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Noticed some of the articles in Category:Mobile_software interchange the terms. - LuckyLouie (talk) 01:44, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

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