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Avon

It was originally divided into just Avon, Cornwall, Devon, Dorset, Gloucestershire, Somerset, and Wiltshire.

I have changed this to It was previously divided... Avon was never an historic county, and only came into being in 1974.--MichaelMaggs 08:50, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

All versions are correct. The current region was formed in 1994 so it came after Avon was created and before it was abolished. MRSC 18:34, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Gibraltar

The article on Gibraltar lists that area as part of the EU voting constituency of South West England. Could someone who is more knowledgeable on the subjesct please clear this up for me? - USArsnl 03:08, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The link was wrong on the Gibraltar article. It should have linked to the constituency and not the region. I've corrected this. MRSC 13:18, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Name

While I think the article name should remain South West England (because that's what most people will think of it as), the emboldened part of the opening paragraph should read ‘South West (or Government Office for the South West) is one of the regions of England . . . ’ since the word England does not form part of its title. The only region of England which includes the word is East of England. If no-one objects, I'd like to change this (and also the other region of England articles). - Heavens To Betsy 13:48, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Traditionally

This section is fatuous and way too early in the article. Some of it belongs in a trivia section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.140.57.113 (talk) 11:09, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree (with me). The southwest surely has deeper and more serious associations with navigation from Bristol, mining in Cornwall, agriculture and tourism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.189.103.145 (talk) 08:41, 22 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

County sections

The sections on each county seem very brief in some cases: just listing large employers does not really tell you much about the economy.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 07:41, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

     Erm, can people not follow links to the individual county pages? Govynn (talk) 19:48, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Also if, for instance in the Somerset section, we include Yeo Valley Organic (for example), why don't we include every company listed in Category:Companies_based_in_Somerset? CS⁴⁶ 16:01, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. The Early Learning Centre (a business whose name sounds like a school) is hardly a typically southwestern trade. I'm sure they have Tesco's down there too, but saying so isn't encyclopedic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.189.103.145 (talk) 23:30, 22 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am furious with the childish and nasty anti-Cornish edits in this article. Removing Cornwall's status as one of the most deprived sub-regions in the UK and the suppression of the associated primary sources is playing blatant and malicious politics with socio-economic data. You know who you are. Stop it.

Transport

As part of the transport planning system the Regional Assembly is under statutory requirement to produce a Regional Transport Strategy to provide long term planning for transport in the region. This involves region wide transport schemes such as those carried out by the Highways Agency and Network Rail. [12] - now out of date, regional assemblies in England no longer exist (as of now (2011)) Govynn (talk) 19:49, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That's true. I've removed it. Ghmyrtle (talk) 20:37, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

History

What evidence is there that Exeter acted as a "regional capital" of a region coextensive with the modern south west region? Govynn (talk) 20:08, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've changed "the" regional capital to "a" regional capital, which was true in Roman times - it doesn't necessarily imply that the region of which it was capital was the same as the modern South West. Ghmyrtle (talk) 20:56, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have edited the Middle Ages section since it was implied by the previous version that there were natives of Devon or beyond who were British Celtic speakers in the Tudor period, the placename and documentary evidence would indicate that Cornish was restricted to west of the Tamar at least several centuries earlier. If anyone is aware of any evidence for a British Celtic speaking tradition persisting east of the Tamar this late you are welcome to add it back in if you can back it up. Govynn (talk) 20:33, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Also, does anyone with an interest in the English Civil War want to add some information about places beyond Somerset? Govynn (talk) 20:33, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Map?

The question has come up at Talk:West Country of the need for a better map of the region - showing some administrative boundaries, some towns, etc. As the term "West Country" cannot be satisfactorily defined, it seems to me that a map of the SW region would be preferable. Any views on this? Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:48, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Directory of businesses

WIkipedia is not a directory, yet with this edit that is exactly what this article has become a - a Yellow Pages for South West England. I'll give it a couple of days and if nobody beats me to it then I'll revert and trim a few more out. --Bob Re-born (talk) 18:33, 17 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's probably all true, noteworthy (somewhere), and quite interesting - but almost entirely unsourced. Several possibilities occur to me. If sources are found, there's no reason in my view not to have a new page on Economy of South West England; or, maybe better, to transfer sourced information (or tagged unsourced information) to the individual county pages. Ghmyrtle (talk) 18:39, 17 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

We already have Economy of Somerset, Economy of Devon, Economy of Cornwall etc some of which are better than others - perhaps they could be expanded/sourced etc?— Rod ^talk 20:02, 17 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Good idea - and someone can start Economy of Wiltshire, Economy of Dorset, Economy of Gloucestershire, etc... We already have Economy of Bristol as well. Ghmyrtle (talk) 16:24, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Zedland

Just noticed Zedland redirects here, but there's nothing relating to the name on the page. Googling I see a few sites claim Zedland is an old term for the West Counties (Cornwall, Devon, Dorset and Somerset) in South West England. It was called this because of the inhabitants pronunciation of S as Z. and another site that claims Zedland was old slang for the West Country (the counties of Cornwall, Devon, Somerset and Dorset). But don't appear themselves to be WP:RS. If this is true, and can be reliably sourced then perhaps it would be a suitable addition to the article, or at least some explanation of the term. Especially given the redirect exists.Number36 (talk) 20:30, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that there seems to be some truth in it, as an antiquated slang term - for example, here and here. A brief mention might be justified. Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:40, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]